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« on: December 11, 2013, 08:28:23 PM »

The adaptation of All You Need is Kill starring Tom Cruise.  Ground Hog Day with powered exoskeletons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQltOdUuBXc
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 08:37:04 PM »

Looks good.  Reminds me of Oblivion in that we know there is a secret that will be revealed at some point in the movie but that isn't a ding against it.

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 08:37:47 PM »

ok, so it has tom cruise, but this still looks cool.  hard not to laugh though.  they found a way to put him back on a motorcycle
   
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2013, 04:57:32 AM »

Looking good.

Now all they need to do is use these costumes for a proper starship troopers movie.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2013, 05:23:24 AM »

It's looking ni-ce. I think 'Edge Of Tomorrow' is a generic title. Much rather they kept the 'All You Need Is Kill', but I'll see this.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2013, 09:15:21 AM »

For some reason I got a little Warhammer 40k Space Marine vibe outta this. C'mon, make it happen Hollywood!!
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 02:48:28 PM »

I thought it actually looked good!
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2013, 02:48:42 PM »

Quote from: USMC Kato on December 12, 2013, 09:15:21 AM

For some reason I got a little Warhammer 40k Space Marine vibe outta this. C'mon, make it happen Hollywood!!

Man that would be so cool! (if done right)
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2013, 03:07:34 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on December 12, 2013, 02:48:42 PM

Quote from: USMC Kato on December 12, 2013, 09:15:21 AM

For some reason I got a little Warhammer 40k Space Marine vibe outta this. C'mon, make it happen Hollywood!!

Man that would be so cool! (if done right)

There's no way they could stay faithful to the source material that would have mass market appeal.  Entirely to Dystopian.  Would be cool, but like Battletech it's too niche
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2013, 09:14:26 PM »

So i finished the book, it's a pretty good little read.
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2013, 10:15:04 PM »

Ahh, didn't spot this thread for some reason.  My bad.  smile

Still sounds like Groundhog Day to me.  Maybe the trailer isn't selling me on it for some reason?
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2013, 02:02:47 AM »

Edge of Tomorrow sounds like a soap opera, but All You Need Is Kill sounds like a nonsensically-named Japanese videogame smile
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2013, 09:31:48 AM »

The proper translation would probably have ended up something like "All You Need to do is Kill," or something along those lines.

It's the same with shows like Attack on Titan, which would probably better translate to Attack of the Titan

Not sure about these word for word translations of Japanese titles, but I think it helps avoid trademark conflicts to keep the weird literal translations, otherwise you end up with some pretty common names for stories.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2013, 01:45:03 PM »

It seems like "All You Need is Kill" is intentionally derivative of the Beatles "All You Need is Love" and not necessarily bad translation.  Of course it could just be coincidence but thats a pretty weird coincidence.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2013, 05:12:50 PM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on December 30, 2013, 01:45:03 PM

It seems like "All You Need is Kill" is intentionally derivative of the Beatles "All You Need is Love" and not necessarily bad translation.

Yeah, that's what I'm reading into it too. It's like the word "kill" is meant to reflect some kind of subliminal message.
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2013, 06:16:53 PM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on December 30, 2013, 01:45:03 PM

It seems like "All You Need is Kill" is intentionally derivative of the Beatles "All You Need is Love" and not necessarily bad translation.  Of course it could just be coincidence but thats a pretty weird coincidence.

I don't think "All You Need is Kill" even makes sense as a sentence, though, unlike "All You Need is Love".  I think it would have been better to be "All You Need is DIE SUCKER!". 
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2013, 06:19:03 PM »

Title doesn't make any more sense in context of the book either, though I do kind of like it as is, it's distinctive.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2013, 11:17:09 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on December 31, 2013, 06:16:53 PM

Quote from: rshetts2 on December 30, 2013, 01:45:03 PM

It seems like "All You Need is Kill" is intentionally derivative of the Beatles "All You Need is Love" and not necessarily bad translation.  Of course it could just be coincidence but thats a pretty weird coincidence.

I don't think "All You Need is Kill" even makes sense as a sentence, though, unlike "All You Need is Love". 

That's why I mentioned the subliminal thing. It's like a clumsy (which in this case would be intentional) attempt to control the message.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2014, 04:58:24 AM »

Groundhog Day Part II. It looks pretty interesting.

 Tom Cruise went through a phase in his career when he appeared to be bat-shit crazy.  I like his new phase, the "I am unafraid to make sci-fi movies".  If he's gonna be crazy he might as well do it in my genre.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2014, 01:07:02 PM »

Well, I think his Scientology handlers just reined him in a bit. Still a great actor, and he deserves the success he has, but if I see one more Hollywood Scientology shill movie I'm going to scream.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2014, 01:10:08 PM »

He's managed to keep his craziness out of his movies for the most part (the exception being Battlefield Earth, I guess), and he's a pretty damn good actor who makes some really interesting role choices.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2014, 02:37:32 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on January 02, 2014, 01:10:08 PM

He's managed to keep his craziness out of his movies for the most part (the exception being Battlefield Earth, I guess), and he's a pretty damn good actor who makes some really interesting role choices.

Tom Cruise wasn't in Battlefield Earth.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2014, 02:48:22 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on January 02, 2014, 02:37:32 PM

Quote from: TiLT on January 02, 2014, 01:10:08 PM

He's managed to keep his craziness out of his movies for the most part (the exception being Battlefield Earth, I guess), and he's a pretty damn good actor who makes some really interesting role choices.

Tom Cruise wasn't in Battlefield Earth.

Wrong Scientologist.  icon_wink
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2014, 03:03:07 PM »

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on January 02, 2014, 02:48:22 PM

Quote from: Teggy on January 02, 2014, 02:37:32 PM

Quote from: TiLT on January 02, 2014, 01:10:08 PM

He's managed to keep his craziness out of his movies for the most part (the exception being Battlefield Earth, I guess), and he's a pretty damn good actor who makes some really interesting role choices.

Tom Cruise wasn't in Battlefield Earth.

Wrong Scientologist.  icon_wink

Oops, I guess you're right. Those scientologists all look the same to me. slywink
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2014, 03:42:41 PM »

was the last one related to scientology?  I can't tell.  other than the 'destroyed earth motif', does it have anything in common with that crap-fest called battlefield earth?
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2014, 04:19:07 PM »

Quote from: TheEgoWhip on January 02, 2014, 04:58:24 AM

Groundhog Day Part II. It looks pretty interesting.

To be fair the concept predates Groundhog Day, though that is the most popular notion. 12:01PM for instance was published in 73 and had a short film made in 1990 starring Kurtwood Smith (Red Forman/Boddicker).  You can find it on youtube.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2014, 05:57:58 PM »

I like Emily Blunt, but this immediately struck me more as a ripoff of Source Code (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0945513/), rather than Groundhog Day. Unless one found Source Code a ripoff of Groundhog Day.  icon_smile
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2014, 08:08:40 PM »

Quote from: Caine on January 02, 2014, 03:42:41 PM

was the last one related to scientology?  I can't tell.  other than the 'destroyed earth motif', does it have anything in common with that crap-fest called battlefield earth?

Nope, not from what I can tell. I haven't recognized any clear scientologic traces in any of Tom Cruise's movies.
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2014, 09:07:53 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on January 02, 2014, 08:08:40 PM

Quote from: Caine on January 02, 2014, 03:42:41 PM

was the last one related to scientology?  I can't tell.  other than the 'destroyed earth motif', does it have anything in common with that crap-fest called battlefield earth?

Nope, not from what I can tell. I haven't recognized any clear scientologic traces in any of Tom Cruise's movies.
not unlike Will Smith from what I've read. 
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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2014, 09:57:03 PM »

Also, Oblivion was a really good movie. One of my more pleasant movie surprises from last year.
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