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« on: May 31, 2012, 09:01:32 PM »

on 5-23-2014 it's on like Donkey Kong.

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 09:04:44 PM »

so is this a Prequel to the Prequel?,shouldn't 'Dawn' come before 'Rise'?
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 10:58:22 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 31, 2012, 09:04:44 PM

so is this a Prequel to the Prequel?,shouldn't 'Dawn' come before 'Rise'?

Don't think so... you can't have a dawn if the the sun never rises first... ninja
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 08:25:31 AM »

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Quote from: metallicorphan on May 31, 2012, 09:04:44 PM

so is this a Prequel to the Prequel?,shouldn't 'Dawn' come before 'Rise'?

Don't think so... you can't have a dawn if the the sun never rises first... ninja

ahh,i was thinking more of Rising out of bed after Dawn Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2012, 01:00:25 PM »

I still can't believe how good Andy Serkis was in Rise of the Apes. Hard to believe it was a real human playing Caesar (granted they CGIed him, but it was still him doing all the movements and acting).
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2012, 04:17:46 AM »

Quote from: Scraper on June 01, 2012, 01:00:25 PM

I still can't believe how good Andy Serkis was in Rise of the Apes. Hard to believe it was a real human playing Caesar (granted they CGIed him, but it was still him doing all the movements and acting).

even more amazing when you consider that a lot of people who know his movies would never recognize the guy IRL.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 07:47:36 PM »

set 15 years after 'Rise' and to star Zero Dark Thirty star Jason Clarke,James Franco star of the first film is not expected to return

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Though the plot of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is being kept under wraps, one focus of the story “is on the group of human scientists who are struggling to survive alone in San Francisco.”  Another part of the pic will center on the ape Caesar (played by Andy Serkis) and his struggle to maintain dominance over his kingdom.

http://collider.com/jason-clarke-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 01:04:14 PM »

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According to the kids at ComingSoon.net, one of our greatest living actors has joined the cast of Matt Reeves's sequel to RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES. Oldman will reportedly play "the leader of a human colony". The film, which takes place fifteen years after RISE, will shift back and forth between Caesar's establishment of ape rule and the organization of a human resistance (as presaged at the end of RISE, a virus has wiped out most of humankind). That's about all we know story-wise.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 06:41:34 PM »

You know, I liked the original a lot more than I thought I would, in fact I enjoyed it a lot.  That said I thought the worst parts of the movie were any of the scenes or plot points where they tried to connect it to Planet of the Apes.  I predict this will end in disaster.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2013, 10:49:11 PM »

new plot synopsis:

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A growing nation of genetically evolved apes led by Caesar is threatened by a band of human survivors of the devastating virus unleashed a decade earlier. They reach a fragile peace, but it proves short-lived, as both sides are brought to the brink of a war that will determine who will emerge as Earth’s dominant species.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 06:56:56 PM »



trailer due out next week.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 03:01:50 PM »

Trailer  

Typical, virus takes out human population, war between humans... Apes take over...


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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2013, 03:37:30 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on December 18, 2013, 03:01:50 PM

Trailer  

Typical, virus takes out human population, war between humans... Apes take over...

That was remarkable only because it was so dull.  I think "teaser" trailers should be banned. 

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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2014, 01:26:21 AM »

Saw it this afternoon.  It's a fantastic piece of sci fi.  They're really washing the taste of the Burton fiasco out of audience's mouths with this franchise reboot.  If Michael Bay had half the talent of the scriptwriters for Dawn maybe the transformers movies wouldn't get panned by every critic in existence.

The cgi in this movie will win an oscar, of that there can be no doubt.  The emotion on the apes' faces is jaw dropping in its expressiveness.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2014, 04:50:35 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 13, 2014, 01:26:21 AM

The cgi in this movie will win an oscar, of that there can be no doubt.  The emotion on the apes' faces is jaw dropping in its expressiveness.

Agreed on that, it's absolutely fantastic.  Personally though I wasn't thrilled with a number of the story elements.  I'm not normally a nitpicky kind of guy but I kept finding small things that made the story feel overly contrived.  Still well worth watching though just for the sheer spectacle of it all.
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2014, 05:28:12 PM »

What felt overly contrived to you? 
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2014, 08:56:53 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 14, 2014, 05:28:12 PM

What felt overly contrived to you? 

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Things like the asshole guy's behavior (multiple times) that instigates conflict, ditto on the "bad" ape's attitude and even the way the masses of people and/or apes acted like mobs, Caesar getting shot, none of the bazillion apes see it, but of course surviving and of course their escape pattern leads right to him...  but also things like the power/dam location being conveniently located exactly in ape territory with no other power options (solar? wind? Given this was an outbreak/contagion type of disaster scenario, there's no reason that the infrastructure had to be all destroyed, right? I guess you could suppose people went bonkers and blew everything up lol).  And didn't it seem a bit off that only 10 years had passed, but the decay looked like it was more like 50 years or more?  And then little things like the iPad and the 76 product placement, I dunno, like I said normally things like that don't bother me, but just overall it kind of added up. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2014, 09:10:09 PM »

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I can understand feeling that the guy who shot Ash early in the film was a bit two dimensional.  He was.  But Koba was far from it.  His distrust and hatred bordered on madness because he was close to insane.  He'd been physically tortured almost his entire life by humans.  I think that's enough to cause instability in anyone.  When Caesar, who'd experienced something Koba never had...human kindness...brought these humans back into his world, it pushed him over the edge.  If you think back to the start of the movie, Koba wasn't lurking in the background waiting for a chance to seize power.  He was one of Caesar's most trusted friends.  He only snapped after he felt betrayed.  His motivation was far from simplistic.  

As for the ape mob, that was necessary for what I felt was the main message of the film:  apes are no better or worse than humans.  This is the tragic realization that Caesar has to realize and it's  what drove the film.  Koba's betrayal was a big event in the film, but the major event was that apes, a race that Caesar thought morally superior to humans, were no better than the very group that had once kept them in cages for fun.  

...and, you know...friggin' monkeys on horseback dual wielding machine guns!

The other stuff you mention are simple story contrivances that exist in almost every movie.  Your threshold for their existence is obviously subjective.   For example, I remember you actually didn't mind the 22 million things I complained about in the Following, while I couldn't help but roll my eyes through every episode I tried to digest.   slywink

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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2014, 10:34:15 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on July 14, 2014, 09:10:09 PM

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I can understand feeling that the guy who shot Ash early in the film was a bit two dimensional.  He was.  But Koba was far from it.  His distrust and hatred bordered on madness because he was close to insane.  He'd been physically tortured almost his entire life by humans.  I think that's enough to cause instability in anyone.  When Caesar, who'd experienced something Koba never had...human kindness...brought these humans back into his world, it pushed him over the edge.  If you think back to the start of the movie, Koba wasn't lurking in the background waiting for a chance to seize power.  He was one of Caesar's most trusted friends.  He only snapped after he felt betrayed.  His motivation was far from simplistic.  

As for the ape mob, that was necessary for what I felt was the main message of the film:  apes are no better or worse than humans.  This is the tragic realization that Caesar has to realize and it's  what drove the film.  Koba's betrayal was a big event in the film, but the major event was that apes, a race that Caesar thought morally superior to humans, were no better than the very group that had once kept them in cages for fun.  

...and, you know...friggin' monkeys on horseback dual wielding machine guns!

The other stuff you mention are simple story contrivances that exist in almost every movie.  Your threshold for their existence is obviously subjective.   For example, I remember you actually didn't mind the 22 million things I complained about in the Following, while I couldn't help but roll my eyes through every episode I tried to digest.   slywink



lol I totally agree, I think I just had a higher standard for this movie because I really liked the first one a lot (as much as I remember).  I think it's one of those expectations being too high kind of things; with The Following I pretty much have no expectations  icon_lol
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