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« on: December 05, 2011, 08:58:17 PM »


I wasn't terribly excited about this one...but the trailer has changed that.  I was under the impression this was going to be just another hillbilly slasher film or something of a like kind, but I was dead wrong it seems.  I do believe they just sold a ticket.  
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 09:10:56 PM »

It has been quite some time since a slasher-style film intrigued me, but with Joss Whedon involved, and the online descriptions listing it as a "tongue-in-cheek thriller/slasher film", I've also gone from completely apathetic to somewhat intrigued.  Not sure if it'll earn my money during its theater run, but I may make it a point to see it when it is released on DVD or perhaps Netflix.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 09:16:42 PM »

It's more than that, though, if you see the trailer.  You may not want to, though.  I was in anyway, because of Joss, but while the trailer amped my enthusiasm for sure, it also gave away things that would have been cool to be surprised by.  It may not be the worst spoiler in the world, but it would have been better not knowing anything.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm catching references to Evil Dead and Friday the 13th (and maybe Pumpkinhead with the gas station).  Are there others I'm missing?
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 09:20:50 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 05, 2011, 09:16:42 PM

It's more than that, though, if you see the trailer.  You may not want to, though.  I was in anyway, because of Joss, but while the trailer amped my enthusiasm for sure, it also gave away things that would have been cool to be surprised by.  It may not be the worst spoiler in the world, but it would have been better not knowing anything.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm catching references to Evil Dead and Friday the 13th (and maybe Pumpkinhead with the gas station).  Are there others I'm missing?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Believe it or not, The Truman Show.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 11:03:16 PM »

They had me at Joss Whedon.  And CHRIS freaking HEMSWORTH, the hottest man/god alive.  Not to mention Amy Acker smile

Regarding the spoilers...

Quote from: hepcat on December 05, 2011, 09:20:50 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 05, 2011, 09:16:42 PM

It's more than that, though, if you see the trailer.  You may not want to, though.  I was in anyway, because of Joss, but while the trailer amped my enthusiasm for sure, it also gave away things that would have been cool to be surprised by.  It may not be the worst spoiler in the world, but it would have been better not knowing anything.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm catching references to Evil Dead and Friday the 13th (and maybe Pumpkinhead with the gas station).  Are there others I'm missing?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Believe it or not, The Truman Show.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Have to agree with Hepcat here, I don't think the references to traditional horror films are much of a spoiler.  It's the whole sci-fi experiment aspect that is kind of spoiled.  Of course it only makes me want to watch it even more.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2011, 11:21:04 PM »

im curious just because its called "cabin in the woods" - any title implying evil dead as an influence catches my attention - moreso once its refered to as "tongue in cheek"
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2011, 11:40:35 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on December 05, 2011, 11:03:16 PM

They had me at Joss Whedon.  And CHRIS freaking HEMSWORTH, the hottest man/god alive.  Not to mention Amy Acker smile

Regarding the spoilers...

Quote from: hepcat on December 05, 2011, 09:20:50 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 05, 2011, 09:16:42 PM

It's more than that, though, if you see the trailer.  You may not want to, though.  I was in anyway, because of Joss, but while the trailer amped my enthusiasm for sure, it also gave away things that would have been cool to be surprised by.  It may not be the worst spoiler in the world, but it would have been better not knowing anything.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm catching references to Evil Dead and Friday the 13th (and maybe Pumpkinhead with the gas station).  Are there others I'm missing?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Believe it or not, The Truman Show.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Have to agree with Hepcat here, I don't think the references to traditional horror films are much of a spoiler.  It's the whole sci-fi experiment aspect that is kind of spoiled.  Of course it only makes me want to watch it even more.

I'm not sure what point your making.  That was the spoiler part for me as well.  I merely was using spoilers for the rest so as not to ruin the trailer for anyone who did want to see it.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2011, 12:10:40 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2011, 12:49:23 AM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 05, 2011, 11:40:35 PM

Quote from: rittchard on December 05, 2011, 11:03:16 PM

They had me at Joss Whedon.  And CHRIS freaking HEMSWORTH, the hottest man/god alive.  Not to mention Amy Acker smile

Regarding the spoilers...

Quote from: hepcat on December 05, 2011, 09:20:50 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 05, 2011, 09:16:42 PM

It's more than that, though, if you see the trailer.  You may not want to, though.  I was in anyway, because of Joss, but while the trailer amped my enthusiasm for sure, it also gave away things that would have been cool to be surprised by.  It may not be the worst spoiler in the world, but it would have been better not knowing anything.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm catching references to Evil Dead and Friday the 13th (and maybe Pumpkinhead with the gas station).  Are there others I'm missing?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Believe it or not, The Truman Show.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Have to agree with Hepcat here, I don't think the references to traditional horror films are much of a spoiler.  It's the whole sci-fi experiment aspect that is kind of spoiled.  Of course it only makes me want to watch it even more.

I'm not sure what point your making.  That was the spoiler part for me as well.  I merely was using spoilers for the rest so as not to ruin the trailer for anyone who did want to see it.

No point really, just an observation.  Your post makes it seem like your spoiler spoils "twists" either in the movie or the trailer or both, which I believe it really does not.  Hepcat's spoiler (and mine) really do. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2011, 12:49:42 AM »

Amy Ackers was in the trailer?  Which one was she?
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 01:58:33 AM »

Quote from: rittchard on December 06, 2011, 12:49:23 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 05, 2011, 11:40:35 PM

Quote from: rittchard on December 05, 2011, 11:03:16 PM

They had me at Joss Whedon.  And CHRIS freaking HEMSWORTH, the hottest man/god alive.  Not to mention Amy Acker smile

Regarding the spoilers...

Quote from: hepcat on December 05, 2011, 09:20:50 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 05, 2011, 09:16:42 PM

It's more than that, though, if you see the trailer.  You may not want to, though.  I was in anyway, because of Joss, but while the trailer amped my enthusiasm for sure, it also gave away things that would have been cool to be surprised by.  It may not be the worst spoiler in the world, but it would have been better not knowing anything.

Spoiler for Hiden:
I'm catching references to Evil Dead and Friday the 13th (and maybe Pumpkinhead with the gas station).  Are there others I'm missing?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Believe it or not, The Truman Show.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Have to agree with Hepcat here, I don't think the references to traditional horror films are much of a spoiler.  It's the whole sci-fi experiment aspect that is kind of spoiled.  Of course it only makes me want to watch it even more.

I'm not sure what point your making.  That was the spoiler part for me as well.  I merely was using spoilers for the rest so as not to ruin the trailer for anyone who did want to see it.

No point really, just an observation.  Your post makes it seem like your spoiler spoils "twists" either in the movie or the trailer or both, which I believe it really does not.  Hepcat's spoiler (and mine) really do.  

I guess it was the taking sides phrasing of your post that made it seem confrontational.  I can see how you were confused, though.  However, I took it as a given which part of the trailer was spoilertastic.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 10:01:24 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 07:02:45 AM »

I'm too afraid to look at the Trailer on fear of spoilage - is it a western?  ninja2
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2011, 02:29:36 PM »

It's the story of Lincoln's birth.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 03:01:21 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on December 07, 2011, 02:29:36 PM

It's the story of Lincoln's birth.

Well that works....hear he was good with an axe.  ninja
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2011, 03:59:40 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on December 07, 2011, 03:01:21 PM

Quote from: Teggy on December 07, 2011, 02:29:36 PM

It's the story of Lincoln's birth.

Well that works....hear he was good with an axe.  ninja

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 05:55:11 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on December 07, 2011, 07:02:45 AM

I'm too afraid to look at the Trailer on fear of spoilage - is it a western?  ninja2

Honestly, the great thing about the film is that no one's really sure just what it is.  The trailer gives away some story elements, but it also raises as many questions as it answers imho.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2011, 06:46:37 PM »

Chances are that big "twist" happens in the first 15 minutes of the film.  To me it looks more like it's more about dealing with the situation rather than thinking things are one way then getting a big surprise in the final act.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2011, 11:05:49 PM »

Quote from: Covenant on December 07, 2011, 06:46:37 PM

Chances are that big "twist" happens in the first 15 minutes of the film.  To me it looks more like it's more about dealing with the situation rather than thinking things are one way then getting a big surprise in the final act.


Maybe, maybe not.  We'll have to wait and see.  I'm definitely getting the chicago gang together for a matinee though.  We did that for Serenity, so it's time for a reunion.
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Quote from: Covenant on December 07, 2011, 06:46:37 PM

Chances are that big "twist" happens in the first 15 minutes of the film.  To me it looks more like it's more about dealing with the situation rather than thinking things are one way then getting a big surprise in the final act.

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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2011, 11:56:35 PM »

Quote from: Covenant on December 07, 2011, 06:46:37 PM

Chances are that big "twist" happens in the first 15 minutes of the film.  To me it looks more like it's more about dealing with the situation rather than thinking things are one way then getting a big surprise in the final act.


I imagine that's true, too, but how much cooler would it be to have no idea about it at all?
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2011, 12:30:48 AM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 07, 2011, 11:56:35 PM

Quote from: Covenant on December 07, 2011, 06:46:37 PM

Chances are that big "twist" happens in the first 15 minutes of the film.  To me it looks more like it's more about dealing with the situation rather than thinking things are one way then getting a big surprise in the final act.


I imagine that's true, too, but how much cooler would it be to have no idea about it at all?

I definitely agree with this - I would have preferred going in with only what I thought it was going to be - a Whedon-y (possibly funny) script/take on a conventional horror movie in a Friday the 13th-esque setting.
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2011, 12:40:07 AM »

So, those who have such an aversion to trailers, do you adamantly avoid trailers for everything?  Then how do you determine what you would actually like to see in theaters?  Do you show up late for films so that the preceding trailers don't ruin your upcoming year of movie viewing?  Do you turn off the TV or change the channel immediately any time a trailer comes on?

It's a trailer.  For an upcoming film.  Trailers always give something away to gain interest.  That's the point of a trailer.  To cover your ears and scream "lalalalalalala" because this particular trailer teases of an unusual story element seems a bit over-reactive.   
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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2011, 04:22:35 AM »

Ah Pete, I think you missed the sarcasm in my ealier post. slywink

I don't really avoid trailers and don't really go out of my way to view them either. As to going to a movie without having been enlightened by a trailer, I personally don't go out to a movie unless I've been given a review from a friend. I have a few friends who part-time review for publications and they've always been very reliable with their opinions and of course theyt have the priviledge of attending early screenings. If none of them have seen a film I'm interested in I'll read a few reliable reviews. IMO, with the amount of craptastic films being made these days, it just isn't worth the time and money to go to the theater without some foreknowledge.
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2011, 04:53:14 AM »

That's twice we've been called overeactive by PeteRock.  I'll let that sink in,

Pete, A) the people who put together trailers are not the film makers, and often they tease to the point of stupidity. However, no one has said that all trailers are bad.  B) In this particular case, many would have gone to see it anyway, just because of the genre and/or director.  The twist in the trailer would have been cooler without the foreknowledge.  That's it.  No one is launching an Occupy Lowes movement or anything.

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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2011, 11:52:48 AM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 08, 2011, 04:53:14 AM

That's twice we've been called overeactive by PeteRock.  I'll let that sink in,

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Pete, A) the people who put together trailers are not the film makers, and often they tease to the point of stupidity. However, no one has said that all trailers are bad.  B) In this particular case, many would have gone to see it anyway, just because of the genre and/or director.  The twist in the trailer would have been cooler without the foreknowledge.  That's it.  No one is launching an Occupy Lowes movement or anything.

I understand discussing a trailer's merits and the ongoing trend to reveal a bit too much (these conversations are far from being new).  My point was to how the "discussion" played out, going from merely addressing disappointment in what was revealed during the trailer to a cryptic conspiracy-like discourse.

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Ah Pete, I think you missed the sarcasm in my ealier post. slywink

No, I caught it. 

Perhaps many Joss Whedon fans will flock to this film merely because he's associated with it, without having ever seen the trailer.  He's developed somewhat of a cult following.  But to warn of learning too much about the film by watching the trailer negates much ability to answer questions about what it may be about.  The whole thing just seems silly.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2011, 01:15:54 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on December 08, 2011, 11:52:48 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 08, 2011, 04:53:14 AM

That's twice we've been called overeactive by PeteRock.  I'll let that sink in,

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You are correct.  My apologies, sir. 
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Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 08, 2011, 01:15:54 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 08, 2011, 11:52:48 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 08, 2011, 04:53:14 AM

That's twice we've been called overeactive by PeteRock.  I'll let that sink in,

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You are correct.  My apologies, sir. 


None needed.  When you said "twice" I had to think about when else I also called you "overreactive."  The only location I could think of was the Xbox dashboard update thread, and there Hark called us both overreactive.   icon_wink

Perhaps I was also overreactive in this particular thread.  Just found the whole spoiler exchange a little funny. 
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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2011, 10:01:43 PM »

saw this on AICN:

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I'm not going to review this movie with any length, at least, not yet.  But I will say this.  Read nothing.  See nothing, including the trailer.  Go in blind.  There are movies that it's okay to be spoiled a little bit on.  This is not one of those movies.  THE CABIN IN THE WOODS won BNAT this year, hands down.  There are audience experiences at BNAT that I cherish more than any other.  Seeing THE LORD OF THE RINGS films for the first time.  Seeing Buster Keaton's THE GENERAL with a live band.  To that, I'll simply add the last 30 minutes of THE CABIN IN THE WOODS.  It's going to be a BNAT experience that I'll treasure forever, and simply put, this is a must-see film when it opens in April.  Because it's probably going to be one of the most talked about genre films of the year.  Believe it.
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2011, 10:15:28 PM »

Putting the link in my OP in spoilers and suggesting folks heed AICN's advice.   slywink
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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on December 08, 2011, 12:40:07 AM

So, those who have such an aversion to trailers, do you adamantly avoid trailers for everything?  Then how do you determine what you would actually like to see in theaters?  Do you show up late for films so that the preceding trailers don't ruin your upcoming year of movie viewing?  Do you turn off the TV or change the channel immediately any time a trailer comes on?

It's a trailer.  For an upcoming film.  Trailers always give something away to gain interest.  That's the point of a trailer.  To cover your ears and scream "lalalalalalala" because this particular trailer teases of an unusual story element seems a bit over-reactive.  

Pete, I absolutely love trailers and getting hyped up by them.  But this one really is a different animal, for better or worse.  All the pre-trailer hype I heard about the movie was "Joss Whedon does a fun scary movie that plays on the genre" - giving the impression it's something like a Scream-type update to Friday the 13th for the 2010s.  The trailer certainly changes that notion dramatically, and from CK's post, it doesn't sound like it's given away in the first 15 minutes, but rather is the twist for the final 30 minutes.
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2011, 11:05:53 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on December 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 08, 2011, 12:40:07 AM

So, those who have such an aversion to trailers, do you adamantly avoid trailers for everything?  Then how do you determine what you would actually like to see in theaters?  Do you show up late for films so that the preceding trailers don't ruin your upcoming year of movie viewing?  Do you turn off the TV or change the channel immediately any time a trailer comes on?

It's a trailer.  For an upcoming film.  Trailers always give something away to gain interest.  That's the point of a trailer.  To cover your ears and scream "lalalalalalala" because this particular trailer teases of an unusual story element seems a bit over-reactive.  

Pete, I absolutely love trailers and getting hyped up by them.  But this one really is a different animal, for better or worse.  All the pre-trailer hype I heard about the movie was "Joss Whedon does a fun scary movie that plays on the genre" - giving the impression it's something like a Scream-type update to Friday the 13th for the 2010s.  The trailer certainly changes that notion dramatically, and from CK's post, it doesn't sound like it's given away in the first 15 minutes, but rather is the twist for the final 30 minutes.

Then shame on the trailer designers for including such content.  I've yet to see a trailer that completely spoils a film, but in this case I can see the potential frustration.  Still, what has been seen cannot be unseen, at least for those of us who were not forewarned prior to viewing the trailer. 
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2011, 12:06:40 AM »

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Quote from: rittchard on December 15, 2011, 10:19:00 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on December 08, 2011, 12:40:07 AM

So, those who have such an aversion to trailers, do you adamantly avoid trailers for everything?  Then how do you determine what you would actually like to see in theaters?  Do you show up late for films so that the preceding trailers don't ruin your upcoming year of movie viewing?  Do you turn off the TV or change the channel immediately any time a trailer comes on?

It's a trailer.  For an upcoming film.  Trailers always give something away to gain interest.  That's the point of a trailer.  To cover your ears and scream "lalalalalalala" because this particular trailer teases of an unusual story element seems a bit over-reactive.  

Pete, I absolutely love trailers and getting hyped up by them.  But this one really is a different animal, for better or worse.  All the pre-trailer hype I heard about the movie was "Joss Whedon does a fun scary movie that plays on the genre" - giving the impression it's something like a Scream-type update to Friday the 13th for the 2010s.  The trailer certainly changes that notion dramatically, and from CK's post, it doesn't sound like it's given away in the first 15 minutes, but rather is the twist for the final 30 minutes.

Then shame on the trailer designers for including such content.  I've yet to see a trailer that completely spoils a film, but in this case I can see the potential frustration.  Still, what has been seen cannot be unseen, at least for those of us who were not forewarned prior to viewing the trailer. 

TV Tropes: Trailers Spoil the Movie

Click on "Film" for a staggering list.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2011, 03:53:00 AM »

I think I mentioned this in some other thread, but the only trailers that I believe are done right have been all been director Christopher Nolan's movies. 
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2011, 01:58:53 PM »

Quote from: USMC Kato on December 16, 2011, 03:53:00 AM

I think I mentioned this in some other thread, but the only trailers that I believe are done right have been all been director Christopher Nolan's movies.  

From TVTropes article listed above:

Spoiler for Batman begins:
A TV spot for Batman Begins revealed, in order, that Bruce's parents died, Wayne Manor burns down (something that happen 3/4's of the way through the film), and that Bruce has a reconciliatory conversation with Rachel that happens right beside the ashes of said burned-down manor.
Spoiler for Dark Knight:
The Dark Knight's trailers featured  a few scenes involving Gordon (the Joker interrogation, smashing the Batsignal) that took place after his apparent death, tipping viewers off that he wasn't really dead.
 There was also, however, a clever double-subversion. In the trailers, the last thing we see of  Rachel Dawes involves  the Joker pushing her out a window. They had even gone so far as to take Rachel's lines out of context so that we only saw footage of her at the restaurant and the charity benefit party, leading you to conclude that she dies at the party. In the movie, though, she gets saved. The double-subversion, of course, is that she does in fact die... later.
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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2011, 03:33:24 PM »

It's pretty tough with a movie like this. Show it as a typical horror film and you maybe don't get the audience you should.

Having not seen the movie, we don't really know what they are showing us. Use the Matrix as an example - they showed a lot of action in the trailer, but you didn't really know what the movie was really about until you saw the movie. I remember being completely blown away at that reveal.
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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2012, 04:21:37 PM »

Starts this Friday folks.  I'm planning on a Saturday matinee if I can round up some people...and then a little board gaming afterwards. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2012, 04:41:20 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on April 09, 2012, 04:21:37 PM

Starts this Friday folks.  I'm planning on a Saturday matinee if I can round up some people...and then a little board gaming afterwards. 

I've been trying to motivate interest in my wife despite the film's resemblance to a horror film and reiterating over and over about there being a Joss Whedon plot twist that rumors suggest simply must be experienced.  My wife has zero interest in the horror genre (The Walking Dead was a rare submission on her part), so I'm uncertain as to whether I'll be able to find anyone in my circle to see it, but it's definitely on my want-to-watch list. 
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« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2012, 04:51:55 PM »

There's something to be said about going to a movie by yourself, getting a huge ass bucket of popcorn roughly the size of North Dakota and a pepsi that could safely hold Lake Michigan, finding the comfiest seat in the house and then putting up your feet for 90 minutes or so.  I'm just sayin'.   icon_wink
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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2012, 05:43:43 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on April 09, 2012, 04:41:20 PM

I've been trying to motivate interest in my wife despite the film's resemblance to a horror film and reiterating over and over about there being a Joss Whedon plot twist that rumors suggest simply must be experienced.  My wife has zero interest in the horror genre (The Walking Dead was a rare submission on her part), so I'm uncertain as to whether I'll be able to find anyone in my circle to see it, but it's definitely on my want-to-watch list. 

Is this a different twist than the one they basically spell out in the trailers? I'm hoping that  the movie doesn't hinge on that as the big reveal.
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