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« on: December 07, 2011, 09:18:29 PM »

or, as AICN called it, Trans4mers.  needless to say, T3 made big money so there are plans being made for T4, and there's already rumors floating around on who may be directing the fourth (and possibly fifth) installment:


I know, crazy isn't it? biggrin

for awhile there were rumors that Jason Statham would take over for Shia, but would he be willing to be upstaged by giant robots?
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 09:32:25 PM »

What can you say? Money talks. I think he did a good job with T3, so I don't hate on Bay anymore. Bring on 4!!!!

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 09:52:53 PM »

If they killed the kiddie parts of the movie, the "Black-dude" transformers and witty smart-ass jokes that arent funny, the movies could be great.

As it is, they are mostly annoying (to me).
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 02:03:17 AM »

Weren't the kids a pretty integral part of the cartoon that it's based on? Never really got to see it much at all as we had all of 2 stations where I grew up but it seemed that way from what I did catch.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 02:45:48 AM »

Quote from: Kagath on December 08, 2011, 02:03:17 AM

Weren't the kids a pretty integral part of the cartoon that it's based on? Never really got to see it much at all as we had all of 2 stations where I grew up but it seemed that way from what I did catch.

Humans in general played a very minor role.  The robots themselves actually had personalities and were more than a backdrop to the story!

When Razgon said kiddie parts, though, I think he was referring to fart jokes and robot testicles.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 07:13:38 AM »

Aye, thats what I meant - thats a personal preference of course, but imagine Lord of the Rings in the same eh...immature /kiddish style, and you'd have a totally different movie.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011, 03:17:28 PM »

Quote from: PR_GMR on December 07, 2011, 09:32:25 PM

What can you say? Money talks. I think he did a good job with T3, so I don't hate on Bay anymore. Bring on 4!!!!

And, please, Michael: Grimlock! Dinobots! Galvatron! Cyclonus! Hot Rod! Unicron!

I think folks are experiencing Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to the Transformers franchise.  We've been held captive by Bay's mediocre to horrible (skewing more towards the latter in my opinion) vision of the characters that many of us feel it's actually okay.  If someone with the talent of a del Toro or Nolan got hold of the series though?

...well...it would be like leaving Vault 13 for the first time.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 03:59:02 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on December 09, 2011, 03:17:28 PM

Quote from: PR_GMR on December 07, 2011, 09:32:25 PM

What can you say? Money talks. I think he did a good job with T3, so I don't hate on Bay anymore. Bring on 4!!!!

And, please, Michael: Grimlock! Dinobots! Galvatron! Cyclonus! Hot Rod! Unicron!

I think folks are experiencing Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to the Transformers franchise.  We've been held captive by Bay's mediocre to horrible (skewing more towards the latter in my opinion) vision of the characters that many of us feel it's actually okay.  If someone with the talent of a del Toro or Nolan got hold of the series though?

...well...it would be like leaving Vault 13 for the first time.

Chris Nolan would be awesome.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 01:52:12 AM »

Michael Bay is IN!
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 05:52:01 AM »

Quote from: Scraper on December 09, 2011, 03:59:02 PM

Quote from: hepcat on December 09, 2011, 03:17:28 PM

Quote from: PR_GMR on December 07, 2011, 09:32:25 PM

What can you say? Money talks. I think he did a good job with T3, so I don't hate on Bay anymore. Bring on 4!!!!

And, please, Michael: Grimlock! Dinobots! Galvatron! Cyclonus! Hot Rod! Unicron!

I think folks are experiencing Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to the Transformers franchise.  We've been held captive by Bay's mediocre to horrible (skewing more towards the latter in my opinion) vision of the characters that many of us feel it's actually okay.  If someone with the talent of a del Toro or Nolan got hold of the series though?

...well...it would be like leaving Vault 13 for the first time.

Chris Nolan would be awesome.
I think del Toro would actually do the better job of the 2, but heck either of them with the directing reigns would be so much better than Bay.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 03:44:15 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on December 07, 2011, 09:52:53 PM

If they killed the kiddie parts of the movie, the "Black-dude" transformers and witty smart-ass jokes that arent funny, the movies could be great...

...and 12 minutes long.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 12:59:10 PM »

Perfect!
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 01:20:04 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on February 14, 2012, 03:44:15 PM

Quote from: Razgon on December 07, 2011, 09:52:53 PM

If they killed the kiddie parts of the movie, the "Black-dude" transformers and witty smart-ass jokes that arent funny, the movies could be great...

...and 12 minutes long.

If they edited the first 3 that way we would get 3 minutes of gratuitous sexy shots of the woman du' jour, 4 minutes of massive explosions and 5 minutes of Shia screaming like a little girl.  We may want to cut that down to 7 minutes
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 02:09:36 PM »

To be more serious - There are plenty of examples of movies where supernatural, scifi or otherwise non-normal storylines and plot can be produced in a more mature way, without resorting to cheap thrills/frills. The best recent example would be Lord of The rings - Imagine that for a moment done by Mr Bay? Plucky hobbits doing danceoff battles and dissing the black riders?

All I am saying is - The material could be awesome, if you treat it the right way!
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2012, 02:49:02 PM »

I don't think anyone here believes that Michael Bay isn't a hack.
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 03:39:48 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on February 16, 2012, 02:09:36 PM

To be more serious - There are plenty of examples of movies where supernatural, scifi or otherwise non-normal storylines and plot can be produced in a more mature way, without resorting to cheap thrills/frills.

All I am saying is - The material could be awesome, if you treat it the right way!

I've been reading the two new parallel Transformers comic book series that just started up, More Than Meets the Eye and Robots in Disguise, and even just in the first two issues the story and characters are leaps and bounds more interesting and complex than those in the Bay universe.
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 06:01:50 PM »

I think I heard yesterday that none of the characters/actors have signed back on? Any confirmations?
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 07:07:43 PM »

I'm pretty sure shia labeouf stopped posting here after Razgon refused to stop addressing him as shia la-goof, and megan fox followed soon after when zekester figured out how to PM board members.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 07:36:40 PM »

Shia is such a girl...
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2012, 08:14:14 PM »

Quote from: Roman on February 16, 2012, 06:01:50 PM

I think I heard yesterday that none of the characters/actors have signed back on? Any confirmations?

here's one of them saying he won't be back, and guessing others won't.  they say they don't even have a story yet.  I imagine a easy way to write off the previous cast is to do a time jump like they did with Transformers the Movie.
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2012, 11:19:07 PM »

apparently Bay has said this one will be his last (which I think he said about 3) and it will set up things for whoever is next to direct.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2012, 05:07:09 AM »

I'm assuming setup things as in, "Let's reboot this whole thing because nothing was really setup before"
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2012, 12:30:01 PM »

Transformers is the best movie in the world. I can't express how coooool it is, hope T4 will come out asap.
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2012, 02:29:53 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2012, 04:23:29 PM »

Quote from: cheapsmells on June 13, 2012, 12:30:01 PM

Transformers is the best movie in the world. I can't express how coooool it is, hope T4 will come out asap.

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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2012, 04:34:20 PM »

That a spambot goes by the name "CheapSmells" is enough for me to forgive almost anything...
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2012, 02:45:07 AM »

Officially starring Mark Wahlberg.......

http://www.slashfilm.com/paramount-confirms-mark-wahlberg-as-star-of-transformers-4/
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2012, 05:54:34 AM »

Not overjoyed with that choice of actor, but he should still be good.
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2013, 03:09:04 AM »

and plot:

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    As humanity picks up the pieces, following the conclusion of Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Autobots and Decepticons have all but vanished from the face of the planet. However, a group of powerful, ingenious businessman and scientists attempt to learn from past Transformer incursions and push the boundaries of technology beyond what they can control all while an ancient, powerful Transformer menace sets Earth in his crosshairs. The epic adventure and battle between good and evil, freedom and enslavement ensues.
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2013, 03:34:58 AM »

Wahlberg = better than Shae
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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2013, 03:00:50 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on March 21, 2013, 03:09:04 AM

and plot:

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    As humanity picks up the pieces, following the conclusion of Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Autobots and Decepticons have all but vanished from the face of the planet. However, a group of powerful, ingenious businessman and scientists attempt to learn from past Transformer incursions and push the boundaries of technology beyond what they can control all while an ancient, powerful Transformer menace sets Earth in his crosshairs. The epic adventure and battle between good and evil, freedom and enslavement ensues.
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2013, 02:43:48 PM »

Quote from: Punisher on March 24, 2013, 03:00:50 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on March 21, 2013, 03:09:04 AM

and plot:

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    As humanity picks up the pieces, following the conclusion of Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Autobots and Decepticons have all but vanished from the face of the planet. However, a group of powerful, ingenious businessman and scientists attempt to learn from past Transformer incursions and push the boundaries of technology beyond what they can control all while an ancient, powerful Transformer menace sets Earth in his crosshairs. The epic adventure and battle between good and evil, freedom and enslavement ensues.
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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2013, 07:38:28 PM »

some of the characters rumored to be appearing.  possible spoilers included free of charge.
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« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2013, 07:49:21 PM »

first official still of Marky mark and the Funky Bunch on the set:

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« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2013, 08:07:26 PM »

For some reason that pic screamed more Stargate then transformers to me...
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« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2013, 11:47:16 PM »

Quote from: Punisher on August 23, 2013, 08:07:26 PM

For some reason that pic screamed more Stargate then transformers to me...

Haha, I was thinking the exact same thing.   icon_smile
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« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2013, 04:41:45 AM »

some random footage from the set.
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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2013, 05:10:49 AM »

Quote from: PR_GMR on December 07, 2011, 09:32:25 PM

I think he did a good job with T3, so I don't hate on Bay anymore. Bring on 4!!!!

Sarcasm?

I liked the first.  The second sucked.  The third one, Bay wrote random themes on a chalkboard. Slapped action sequences around those themes.  Said action and then during editing realized he forgot something... a plot!  But by then it was too late, so he added more ass closeups of knightinton-whitely-something and other moments of triumphal grandeur and slow cam panning around characters looking off into the distance... because epic is not a story.  It's a picture which is obviously worth a thousand words.
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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2013, 05:31:36 AM »

What? Transformers 3 had a very clear and large-scale plot, with smaller and seemingly unrelated (yet actually related) subplots going on at the same time.

Transformers 1 was good. T2 was decent, but had its issues. T3 was back to the level of the first one and in some ways was better, though it no longer had the novelty the first movie had.

I believe the change in actors for T4 can mean very good things for it. It's to a large part the actors (and in particular the actresses) in the previous movies that held them back.
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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2013, 02:00:40 PM »

I agree that Transformers 3 had a clear plot. It's complicated, and doesn't mesh well at all with the "plot" of Transformers 2, but that's mainly because Transformers 2 was a complete train wreck.
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