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IHateMorrowind
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« on: November 30, 2004, 01:07:52 AM »

I just wonder why it's not ok for Roy Moore to display the 10 Commandments in the Rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building...but there is a frieze of the 10 Commandments...in the US SUPREME COURT chambers...on the wall right above where the Justices sit?

Hypocritical old fuckheads..., well at least five of them are smile.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2004, 01:28:11 AM »

Couple of things are possible(don't know for sure, I'm not a lawyer):

One, you need a complaint right?  Maybe no one has complained about the US SC one?

Two, the Alabama one was in a PUBLIC area right? And the US SC one is in the Justices(non public) area?
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2004, 01:29:58 AM »

Historical landmark? I don't know...
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2004, 01:41:58 AM »

I thought Moore just stuck the monument there of his own accord. Its like me putting a monument at my work. Or am I confused?! (About this, not in general :lol:)

The city putting a monument up in a public building is different than a person putting a monument up in a public building. This is before you even get to the church vs state thing. Just because he works in the building doesn't mean he has the authority to start installing whatever monuments he wants.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2004, 01:47:37 AM »

I should have been more specific...it's not in their private chambers...it's right there in the courtroom, on the wall behind the bench.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2004, 01:57:20 AM »

I agree with Creepy (and how often do you get to write that?) in that I thought the judge put the 10 Commandments bust in the Alabama courthouse of his own accord. I don't know what the law is concerning the one in the SC chambers though.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2004, 01:57:37 AM »

There are a lot of courtrooms with biblical imagery in them.  I think that most of it is still there because it is historically protected.  The issue, if I'm correct, was that of the judge having it installed by himself.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2004, 03:22:09 AM »

You're talking about the north frieze right?  The one depicted here:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/about/north&southwalls.pdf

Doesn't actually have the ten commandments.  It has Moses with commandments 6-10 partially visible.  Commandments 6-10 are not particually religious.  Additionally, other historical lawgivers appear.  Some of the other ones are also religous, such as Solomon and Muhammad.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2004, 05:06:37 PM »

Quote from: "MrBad"
You're talking about the north frieze right?  The one depicted here:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/about/north&southwalls.pdf

Doesn't actually have the ten commandments.  It has Moses with commandments 6-10 partially visible.  Commandments 6-10 are not particually religious.  Additionally, other historical lawgivers appear.  Some of the other ones are also religous, such as Solomon and Muhammad.


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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2004, 05:04:39 AM »

Well, I guess they aren't "Hypocritical old fuck-heads" after all, are they?

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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2004, 06:26:13 AM »

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I agree with Creepy (and how often do you get to write that?) in that I thought the judge put the 10 Commandments bust in the Alabama courthouse of his own accord. I don't know what the law is concerning the one in the SC chambers though.


Not only did he do it of his own accord, he snuck it in, at night, a preuly political move. What a tool. ninja
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2004, 06:58:14 AM »

The problem, as I recall, is that you ARE allowed to display the ten commandments, but only if you are doing so as sort of historical tribute to rule of law.  There have been, in the past, displays of the commandments which were saved once they added in things like Hammurabi displays or whatever.

To have it as JUST a religious display, as Moore did, is wrong, as were many of the ways he went about it.  He also, if I recall, defied rulings by other judges which told him to have it removed.  Thus, he was totally defying the rule of law.  His only goal was a religious display, and probably a high profile one, at that.  Didnt he run for Senate or something?
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2004, 02:35:39 PM »

Quote from: "IHateMorrowind"
I just wonder why it's not ok for Roy Moore to display the 10 Commandments in the Rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building...but there is a frieze of the 10 Commandments...in the US SUPREME COURT chambers...on the wall right above where the Justices sit?

Hypocritical old fuckheads..., well at least five of them are smile.


What nice language. For someone that is so upset about the Ten Commandments not being able to be shown, maybe you should actually read the Bible sometime and tone down your language.

Just a suggestion.
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