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« on: December 20, 2004, 04:10:05 PM »

So last night I beat the Ironbald Excavation Site Quest as a level 16 hunter, and all the mobs were at least 18, most being 19 and one 20.  I had planned on grouping with a guild mate, but he was called away for family business so I decided to go at it alone.  I took my time and used my track humanoids to ensure I didn't get jumped by 2 Troggs at once.  I died 1 time while doing it and my poor pet died like 3 times.  

Any time I accidentally trained 2 troggs at once I would run back to the campsite and go around this tent so they couldn't catch me.  Eventually they would give up and go back to the site.  The last time I did that there were other players at the campsite and they weren't too happy about me bringing the Troggs into the camp.  The thing is the Troggs didn't pay any attention to them and went back to the site.  

Why did the Troggs just ignore them?  I'm glad they did, but it doesn't make much sense.  They normally aggro to anything that moves near them.  

Also, are there any other negatives to letting the pet die, other than mana costs and the food it takes to feed it back to happiness after you revive it?
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2004, 04:16:45 PM »

I think they follow you for awhile then they lose their aggression toward you.  When that happens they run back to the place where you first encountered them.  Monsters don't tend to become aggressive again until they are back at their spawn point.
I've walked past some very high level monsters who were running back to their spawn point and they never even gave me a second glance.

As far as pet death, other than the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals jumping your case, there's no worries.  Mine sometimes dies several times a night.  I keep a stock of fishies and that makes him happy again.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2004, 04:22:36 PM »

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I think they follow you for awhile then they lose their aggression toward you.  When that happens they run back to the place where you first encountered them.  Monsters don't tend to become aggressive again until they are back at their spawn point.
I've walked past some very high level monsters who were running back to their spawn point and they never even gave me a second glance.

As far as pet death, other than the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals jumping your case, there's no worries.  Mine sometimes dies several times a night.  I keep a stock of fishies and that makes him happy again.


Yea, I am never low on food thanks to being able to fish anywhere.  What level are you now warning?  

Thanks for the info on the mobs.  Nice to know!  So those guys had no reason to be mad at me as they didn't get touched.

This game is so freaking great.  I can't believe how much fun I have with it.  

If they would allow me to check the AH from work I would be set!
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2004, 04:27:34 PM »

They do that with the mobs so you can't train them and screw/MK someone.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2004, 04:41:04 PM »

Eco -

My Hunter is 17th and doing the same quest (Idols?)

Two things:

1) Did you happen to see the Shaman and Berserkers on top of the site?  These guys are nasty.  If you want a little humility, take these guys on.  If you aggro them all,  you will experience Insta-death.  I think they are 20th.  I did this by accident yesterday.... it wasn't pretty!

2) The little valley right outside the town up there where all the lower level troggs hang out... you know the one?  If you haven't yet, go in there and just let loose.  Set your pet on aggressive and just go nutz.  It is so much fun, it's unbelievable.  I went through that whole valley yesterday and hit the little camps one by one.  When I was done, I turned around, and there were dead bodies everywhere.  The speed at which the Hunter can go through that valley is absolutely sick!    Tried it later with my 16th level Priest, just to compare....  it was really sad.   The Hunter is just flat amazing in certain situations.  If for some reason you wanted to collect cloth, this little valley is the key to your success.  You can get 20 pieces of cloth in no time flat here.  

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2004, 04:49:19 PM »

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Eco -

My Hunter is 17th and doing the same quest (Idols?)

Two things:

1) Did you happen to see the Shaman and Berserkers on top of the site?  These guys are nasty.  If you want a little humility, take these guys on.  If you aggro them all,  you will experience Insta-death.  I think they are 20th.  I did this by accident yesterday.... it wasn't pretty!

2) The little valley right outside the town up there where all the lower level troggs hang out... you know the one?  If you haven't yet, go in there and just let loose.  Set your pet on aggressive and just go nutz.  It is so much fun, it's unbelievable.  I went through that whole valley yesterday and hit the little camps one by one.  When I was done, I turned around, and there were dead bodies everywhere.  The speed at which the Hunter can go through that valley is absolutely sick!    Tried it later with my 16th level Priest, just to compare....  it was really sad.   The Hunter is just flat amazing in certain situations.  If for some reason you wanted to collect cloth, this little valley is the key to your success.  You can get 20 pieces of cloth in no time flat here.  

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Yup, same quest!  The Shamans are nasty.  I took out a few though.  I think that is when my cat Sly was killed.  They hit the ground and he caught on fire and died a few moments later.  

I don't know where the valley you're talking about is.  I know where all these low level "Rat Vermin" things hang out outside of the town and I went crazy on them the same way.  They all drop linen cloth and copper.  Not sure if you know or not but a 20 stack of Linen Cloth sells pretty well at the AH.  Where are these troggs you're talking about though?  They drop wool cloth if I'm not mistaken and it sells really well.  My objective right now is to make money.  All kinds of money.  It's fun and I'm able to level up while doing it most of the time.  I really like the AH, but I think they should allow you to input a "Max Bid" and handle it like eBay.  If they fix that in a patch & allow me to check it from work I'll be set.  My home base is Thelsamar only because it's so nice around there, and far less laggy than Ironforge.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2004, 05:22:40 PM »

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They do that with the mobs so you can't train them and screw/MK someone.

Exactly - Blizzard themselves said they designed the aggro system like that on purpose.

For example - if you train Stitches all the way to Goldshire, he'll attack everybody who's on his aggro list. Once his list is cleaned up (he kills all the PCs who have ever attacked him), he'll go back to what he was doing - which in this case is rampaging back to his zone.

Short of any AoE effects a mob might have, you'll be completely safe from any high level mob who gets trained in your direction if you don't attack. I for one like it.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2004, 05:24:03 PM »

Yea, I like that too.  I was just curious.  Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2004, 05:38:17 PM »

You'll also notice that when a mob loses aggro and goes back to its original spot, it runs real fast and "evades" any attacks on it. It also will pick up no new aggro till its returned.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2004, 05:40:26 PM »

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You'll also notice that when a mob loses aggro and goes back to its original spot, it runs real fast and "evades" any attacks on it. It also will pick up no new aggro till its returned.


I love seeing it run away from me real fast after taking me down to little health. smile
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2004, 06:13:52 PM »

I've noticed when my pet makes a kill completely on it's own, I can't loot the corpse. Is that the way it is supposed to be?

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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2004, 07:08:16 PM »

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I've noticed when my pet makes a kill completely on it's own, I can't loot the corpse. Is that the way it is supposed to be?

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I believe so.  Also, you get less XP if you let your pet make the first attack.

So I send pet to attack target, Serpent Sting before the pet gets their, let the pet gain aggro, then unload into the mob.  Works well for me.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2004, 07:35:42 PM »

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So I send pet to attack target, Serpent Sting before the pet gets their, let the pet gain aggro, then unload into the mob.  Works well for me.


I prefer concussive shot first - that way if the pet doesn't get aggo right away, the mob is slowed as it runs toward me, giving Felix (my kitty) a few more shots to distract it.

It also lets me throw in a Serpent sting and a few extra auto shots.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2004, 07:37:34 PM »

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So I send pet to attack target, Serpent Sting before the pet gets their, let the pet gain aggro, then unload into the mob.  Works well for me.


I prefer concussive shot first - that way if the pet doesn't get aggo right away, the mob is slowed as it runs toward me, giving Felix (my kitty) a few more shots to distract it.

It also lets me throw in a Serpent sting and a few extra auto shots.


Yea, I did that at first too.  Then I read somewhere to do serpent sting first, so I started doing that.

I guess either way is good, but if I serpent sting first, and the pet doesn't gain aggro right away, I then concussive shot it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2004, 07:49:16 PM »

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I guess either way is good, but if I serpent sting first, and the pet doesn't gain aggro right away, I then concussive shot it.


I'm hoping once I get the next growl upgrade I can start opening with Aimed shot.  Right now, it does so much damage that kitty can't possibly maintain aggro, but I sure like those occasioanl crits it gives!   biggrin
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2004, 01:08:53 AM »

I've discovered Mobs will go after lower level characters over higher level ones.  My dwarf Warrior and antoher Dwarf Warrior 3 levels above me teamed,  and I got the aggro EVERY SINGLE TIME.  Liek real life, betetr to fight vs 1 than 2, so kill the easy one first.
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