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« Reply #2440 on: December 19, 2011, 04:12:14 PM »

That's something geeks will say in chat all the time - "there are no rebs". Bleh, then why does the game itself call them rebels at times? Plus it's easier to say rebs than republic.
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« Reply #2441 on: December 19, 2011, 04:25:29 PM »

I have to say it drives me crazy every time someone calls an Imperial an "Imp" or "Imps". They never did that in the movies, probably because it sounds stupid.
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« Reply #2442 on: December 19, 2011, 04:44:49 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on December 19, 2011, 04:12:14 PM

That's something geeks will say in chat all the time - "there are no rebs". Bleh, then why does the game itself call them rebels at times? Plus it's easier to say rebs than republic.

In certain Sith storylines there are true rebels -- Imperial citizens working to overthrow their own government.
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« Reply #2443 on: December 19, 2011, 04:53:43 PM »

Played my Sith Inquisitor (named Prarius) up to level 7 last night. And joined a friend's guild on the Krayt Dragon server. So far, so good. I'm enjoying being.... eveeelll. I liked that show scene where you got dark side points my torturing an acolyte at the Sith Temple. I made sure to go extra eveeeelll with it.  icon_razz
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« Reply #2444 on: December 19, 2011, 05:03:59 PM »

How important is it to have your companions like you? Mako can be a bit of spoil sport. I ganked some target and she pooh poohed me with -30. I'm a bounty hunter, I need to collect bounties! They want you to be some bounty hunter with a heart of gold or something. I ain't Dog the Bounty Hunter, sister!
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« Reply #2445 on: December 19, 2011, 06:30:54 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 05:03:59 PM

How important is it to have your companions like you? Mako can be a bit of spoil sport. I ganked some target and she pooh poohed me with -30. I'm a bounty hunter, I need to collect bounties! They want you to be some bounty hunter with a heart of gold or something. I ain't Dog the Bounty Hunter, sister!
Honestly, I don't know.

Corso sometimes goes -1 on my choices but it often doesn't make sense to me. Once it was because I wanted to go have a drink with this gal on my ship. Is he jealous? Not that there'd be anything wrong with that.  icon_smile I mean, I can appreciate not wanting to be the Third Wheel, but he seemed good natured about "Oh I'll go do something for a while," so it seemed odd that he "lost affection" because of it.

And it does seem like at least half of my smuggler's "light side" choices are "lie to someone to protect someone else's hide." I hope kids playing this don't take that away as their main SWOTR lesson.
"Hey daddy! Should I lie to everybody now because it's the 'light side' thing to do?"
"Of course, Junior! By the way, could you tell mommy that daddy's really busy with important errands?"
"Light side ftw, daddy!'
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« Reply #2446 on: December 19, 2011, 06:50:13 PM »

Quote from: Blackjack on December 19, 2011, 06:30:54 PM

Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 05:03:59 PM

How important is it to have your companions like you? Mako can be a bit of spoil sport. I ganked some target and she pooh poohed me with -30. I'm a bounty hunter, I need to collect bounties! They want you to be some bounty hunter with a heart of gold or something. I ain't Dog the Bounty Hunter, sister!
Honestly, I don't know.

Make sure you read the codex entries for your companions.  It gives you ideas about their likes and dislikes.
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« Reply #2447 on: December 19, 2011, 07:01:34 PM »

Quote from: Arkon on December 19, 2011, 06:50:13 PM

Quote from: Blackjack on December 19, 2011, 06:30:54 PM

Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 05:03:59 PM

How important is it to have your companions like you? Mako can be a bit of spoil sport. I ganked some target and she pooh poohed me with -30. I'm a bounty hunter, I need to collect bounties! They want you to be some bounty hunter with a heart of gold or something. I ain't Dog the Bounty Hunter, sister!
Honestly, I don't know.

Make sure you read the codex entries for your companions.  It gives you ideas about their likes and dislikes.
So far I know Corso doesn't like it when I hang out with girls, go for a drink without him or choose dialogue answers that indicate "I'm in it for the money," which is pretty much what Smugglers do, right? Nag, nag, nag!  *Fist Shaking* icon_razz
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« Reply #2448 on: December 19, 2011, 07:05:52 PM »

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How important is it to have your companions like you? Mako can be a bit of spoil sport. I ganked some target and she pooh poohed me with -30. I'm a bounty hunter, I need to collect bounties! They want you to be some bounty hunter with a heart of gold or something. I ain't Dog the Bounty Hunter, sister!

dislikes: "bullying, cruelty, snobs". So was the target something you could easily crush?
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« Reply #2449 on: December 19, 2011, 07:14:11 PM »

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Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 05:03:59 PM

How important is it to have your companions like you? Mako can be a bit of spoil sport. I ganked some target and she pooh poohed me with -30. I'm a bounty hunter, I need to collect bounties! They want you to be some bounty hunter with a heart of gold or something. I ain't Dog the Bounty Hunter, sister!

dislikes: "bullying, cruelty, snobs". So was the target something you could easily crush?

Well, considering she was standing in front of me unarmed... I guess killing her was cruel as well. But it didn't exactly give me the option to handcuff her.

I just found out my female trooper will not be able to romance Elara Dorne. Doesn't Bioware know guys play these games? slywink
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« Reply #2450 on: December 19, 2011, 08:25:43 PM »

I liberated my gunslinger's ship today, and was transported back to my youth, geeking out with happiness as I saw the camera pan out to show my own version of the Millenium Falcon.  That entire scene was awesome.     
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« Reply #2451 on: December 19, 2011, 08:41:11 PM »

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I liberated my gunslinger's ship today, and was transported back to my youth, geeking out with happiness as I saw the camera pan out to show my own version of the Millenium Falcon.  That entire scene was awesome.    
You can give rides to folks on your ship. I think I mentioned riding in another smuggler's ship back to Taris because I was flat broke.  icon_cool Of course, you reach your destination in about 2 seconds, so it's a bit deflating...

I think maybe you have to enable the "OK to share same class's instance" in preferences (maybe?). Then you can follow another player into their ship landing bay "instance" and you'll be able to get on the ship. Might a cool place to hold a "guild meeting" or something. At least until/unless they add Guild Capital Ships down the road.  icon_smile

I find it telling that nobody remembers a single line from the movies Episodes I-III afik. For most of us it doesn't matter if this is The Old Republic era and Episodes 4-6 wasn't. I still relate everything cool I run into (cantina, smuggler ship, etc.) to those more beloved movies, and a lot of us have fun trading our favorite lines while we're in game even if the eras don't match.

Someone from here was bragging about how rich they were in game (from Slicing), and on cue I said, "Don't get cocky, kid!" (SW:ANH) icon_smile

I was thinking I might name my trooper "Goldenrod."
"HURRY UP, Goldenrod! You're gonna be a permanent exhibit!" (TESB) icon_cool

I believe there's a guild called "Scruffy Looking Nerf-Herders" and I crack up every time I see the nameplate on someone.  icon_lol

I realize there's a thousand good reasons for setting this game in the Old Republic era. But part of me still wishes, if they were gonna kill off SWG anyway, they'd have let Bioware take a stab at that era that we all know and love. I don't think it's doable as an expansion though, unless they wanna add a time warp, right?  icon_smile
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« Reply #2452 on: December 19, 2011, 09:01:29 PM »

Reading the boards, it sounds like they did a bit of cut and paste with some quests on Coruscant/Empire 1st planet. The space stations are identical except for signage too, which I thought was convenient for knowing where things are, but a bit lazy.

The ideas behind the start of the Esseles and the intial Empire flashpoint are also similar, but they turned out to be very different.
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« Reply #2453 on: December 19, 2011, 09:11:32 PM »

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Quote from: Roguetad on December 19, 2011, 08:25:43 PM

I liberated my gunslinger's ship today, and was transported back to my youth, geeking out with happiness as I saw the camera pan out to show my own version of the Millenium Falcon.  That entire scene was awesome.    
You can give rides to folks on your ship. I think I mentioned riding in another smuggler's ship back to Taris because I was flat broke.  icon_cool Of course, you reach your destination in about 2 seconds, so it's a bit deflating...

I think maybe you have to enable the "OK to share same class's instance" in preferences (maybe?). Then you can follow another player into their ship landing bay "instance" and you'll be able to get on the ship. Might a cool place to hold a "guild meeting" or something. At least until/unless they add Guild Capital Ships down the road.  icon_smile

I find it telling that nobody remembers a single line from the movies Episodes I-III afik. For most of us it doesn't matter if this is The Old Republic era and Episodes 4-6 wasn't. I still relate everything cool I run into (cantina, smuggler ship, etc.) to those more beloved movies, and a lot of us have fun trading our favorite lines while we're in game even if the eras don't match.

Someone from here was bragging about how rich they were in game (from Slicing), and on cue I said, "Don't get cocky, kid!" (SW:ANH) icon_smile

I was thinking I might name my trooper "Goldenrod."
"HURRY UP, Goldenrod! You're gonna be a permanent exhibit!" (TESB) icon_cool

I believe there's a guild called "Scruffy Looking Nerf-Herders" and I crack up every time I see the nameplate on someone.  icon_lol

I realize there's a thousand good reasons for setting this game in the Old Republic era. But part of me still wishes, if they were gonna kill off SWG anyway, they'd have let Bioware take a stab at that era that we all know and love. I don't think it's doable as an expansion though, unless they wanna add a time warp, right?  icon_smile
Are there any memorable lines from the new trilogy?  The only one that immediately comes to mind is when Obi-Wan defeats Grievous with a blaster pistol and says something like, "Such an uncivilized weapon."
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« Reply #2454 on: December 19, 2011, 09:30:56 PM »

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I have to say it drives me crazy every time someone calls an Imperial an "Imp" or "Imps". They never did that in the movies, probably because it sounds stupid.

it's because in the movie they aren't communicating in text chat where it pays to shorten stuff, you rebel noob  ninja
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« Reply #2455 on: December 19, 2011, 09:45:32 PM »

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Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 04:25:29 PM

I have to say it drives me crazy every time someone calls an Imperial an "Imp" or "Imps". They never did that in the movies, probably because it sounds stupid.

it's because in the movie they aren't communicating in text chat where it pays to shorten stuff, you rebel noob  ninja

Not the players, the NPCs in cutscenes you Imperial imp slywink
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« Reply #2456 on: December 19, 2011, 09:50:48 PM »

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Are there any memorable lines from the new trilogy?  The only one that immediately comes to mind is when Obi-Wan defeats Grievous with a blaster pistol and says something like, "Such an uncivilized weapon."

Well you know there's that bit about sand being rough...

and, "It's over Anakin, I have the high ground"

and, "Dis is nutsen!"

and "I've got a bad feeling about this"
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« Reply #2457 on: December 19, 2011, 10:13:36 PM »

By the way, all servers are down tonight from 7-12pm Eastern, so you'll have to find something else to do.
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« Reply #2458 on: December 19, 2011, 10:59:43 PM »

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Are there any memorable lines from the new trilogy?  The only one that immediately comes to mind is when Obi-Wan defeats Grievous with a blaster pistol and says something like, "Such an uncivilized weapon."
Yeah. Most of us don't have any particular affection for those 3 more recent films.

I don't necessarily think the first 3 films released had great screenplays -- it seems like much of the favorite lines were improvised, going back to Harrison Ford's supposed remark to Lucas that "You can write this s*it, George, but you sure as hell can't say it!"   icon_smile I get the impression on Eps I-III, with GL directing each time, there wasn't any room for or encouragement of improvisation.

That might be at least part of the reason the films sound so stilted compared to Eps 4-6. To me Eps 1-3 sounded more like a cast dutifully saying GL's lines to the letter, rather than trying to modify/improvise them into something more memorable or, God forbid, fun.  icon_smile

Maybe in retrospect I didn't hate Jar-Jar so much as the idea that GL would stick one "funny" character in there but not give any of the main characters anything fun, interesting or memorable to say. TESB is a dark, grim story, yet it's still full of humor and affection and fun that make you care for and root for characters and still say their lines 31 years later. Even a movie about The Fall of The Republic and Anakin Skywalker didn't need to be endlessly grim and often boring.

Servers down from 7 to 12??? Cripes, I might actually finish Xmas shopping for family and get a good night's sleep for a change.   icon_eek
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« Reply #2459 on: December 19, 2011, 11:41:17 PM »

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« Reply #2460 on: December 20, 2011, 12:04:53 AM »

And it's down frown 
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« Reply #2461 on: December 20, 2011, 12:14:50 AM »

Quote from: Blackjack on December 19, 2011, 10:59:43 PM

Quote from: Roguetad on December 19, 2011, 09:11:32 PM

Are there any memorable lines from the new trilogy?  The only one that immediately comes to mind is when Obi-Wan defeats Grievous with a blaster pistol and says something like, "Such an uncivilized weapon."
Yeah. Most of us don't have any particular affection for those 3 more recent films.

I don't necessarily think the first 3 films released had great screenplays -- it seems like much of the favorite lines were improvised, going back to Harrison Ford's supposed remark to Lucas that "You can write this s*it, George, but you sure as hell can't say it!"   icon_smile I get the impression on Eps I-III, with GL directing each time, there wasn't any room for or encouragement of improvisation.

That might be at least part of the reason the films sound so stilted compared to Eps 4-6. To me Eps 1-3 sounded more like a cast dutifully saying GL's lines to the letter, rather than trying to modify/improvise them into something more memorable or, God forbid, fun.  icon_smile

Maybe in retrospect I didn't hate Jar-Jar so much as the idea that GL would stick one "funny" character in there but not give any of the main characters anything fun, interesting or memorable to say. TESB is a dark, grim story, yet it's still full of humor and affection and fun that make you care for and root for characters and still say their lines 31 years later. Even a movie about The Fall of The Republic and Anakin Skywalker didn't need to be endlessly grim and often boring.

Servers down from 7 to 12??? Cripes, I might actually finish Xmas shopping for family and get a good night's sleep for a change.   icon_eek



I can tell you exactly why the prequels sucked.  There was no camaraderie between the characters.  Not like there was with Luke, Leia and Han.  You couldnt buy the romance between Amidalla and Anakin because Anakin was such a whiney dis-likable punk.  There was no friendship between Obi-wan and Anakin, it was competition.  There was lots of cool scenes and special effects but the series itself felt flat and dehumanized.  I know it was darker material, with the fall of the republic and the birth of Vader but if they had added a little humanity to Anakin, it would have made the fall to the darkside so much more tragic.  Instead you almost rooted for Anakin to turn because then he could show a little emotion, even if it was anger and hate.  
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« Reply #2462 on: December 20, 2011, 12:17:34 AM »

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And it's down frown 

I danced on the bar in the cantina right until the end, though!  Ah well, gonna go have to live my real life or something until the official launch.
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« Reply #2463 on: December 20, 2011, 12:19:21 AM »

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I was thinking I might name my trooper "Goldenrod."
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« Reply #2464 on: December 20, 2011, 12:26:04 AM »

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Quote from: Roguetad on December 19, 2011, 09:11:32 PM

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Haha...I forgot (purged) that one.  Way to ruin my childhood movie villian in one scene.   
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« Reply #2465 on: December 20, 2011, 12:28:45 AM »

Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 09:01:29 PM

Reading the boards, it sounds like they did a bit of cut and paste with some quests on Coruscant/Empire 1st planet. The space stations are identical except for signage too, which I thought was convenient for knowing where things are, but a bit lazy.

The ideas behind the start of the Esseles and the intial Empire flashpoint are also similar, but they turned out to be very different.

Are they?  I know they're shaped exactly the same, but I thought the art work was quite different.  I haven't been on the Imperial one since beta, but I remember it being all clean and sleek looking, whereas the Republic one kind of has a junk yard look to it, like someone just slapped the thing together from random crap and then left it to rust a bit.
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« Reply #2466 on: December 20, 2011, 01:19:20 AM »

well damn!  I decided to try to register my game code since the next time I play it will be release day.  Of course they not only took the game servers down but SWTOR.com is down as well. 
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« Reply #2467 on: December 20, 2011, 01:32:36 AM »

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well damn!  I decided to try to register my game code since the next time I play it will be release day.  Of course they not only took the game servers down but SWTOR.com is down as well. 

 icon_neutral  Well the good news is there is now a 48-hour Grace Period.
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« Reply #2469 on: December 20, 2011, 02:56:17 AM »

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Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 09:01:29 PM

Reading the boards, it sounds like they did a bit of cut and paste with some quests on Coruscant/Empire 1st planet. The space stations are identical except for signage too, which I thought was convenient for knowing where things are, but a bit lazy.

The ideas behind the start of the Esseles and the intial Empire flashpoint are also similar, but they turned out to be very different.

Are they?  I know they're shaped exactly the same, but I thought the art work was quite different.  I haven't been on the Imperial one since beta, but I remember it being all clean and sleek looking, whereas the Republic one kind of has a junk yard look to it, like someone just slapped the thing together from random crap and then left it to rust a bit.

Well yeah, I was mostly talking about the design. I'm sure the textures are a bit different. The Empire seem to like neon. Although I haven't noticed the Republic base looking run-down exactly.
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« Reply #2470 on: December 20, 2011, 02:59:00 AM »

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Quote from: ydejin on December 20, 2011, 12:28:45 AM

Quote from: Teggy on December 19, 2011, 09:01:29 PM

Reading the boards, it sounds like they did a bit of cut and paste with some quests on Coruscant/Empire 1st planet. The space stations are identical except for signage too, which I thought was convenient for knowing where things are, but a bit lazy.

The ideas behind the start of the Esseles and the intial Empire flashpoint are also similar, but they turned out to be very different.

Are they?  I know they're shaped exactly the same, but I thought the art work was quite different.  I haven't been on the Imperial one since beta, but I remember it being all clean and sleek looking, whereas the Republic one kind of has a junk yard look to it, like someone just slapped the thing together from random crap and then left it to rust a bit.

Well yeah, I was mostly talking about the design. I'm sure the textures are a bit different. The Empire seem to like neon. Although I haven't noticed the Republic base looking run-down exactly.

It's most noticeable in the shopping stalls.  The walls look rather rough and, at least to my eye, they look like they're starting to rust.
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« Reply #2471 on: December 20, 2011, 04:44:02 AM »

Hmmm, well maybe if I brush my teeth and do everything to be prepared to run to bed, I can try to log in for... just a few minutes... yeah... that's right... that's the ticket...  smirk

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And this one sums up SWTOR  icon_cool
http://www.darthhater.com/comics/pro-tips/15328-dog-pile
*It's not quite true any more I guess, but it still feels a lot more flexible than other MMOs. I've been on a couple fun heroic groups where we didn't just wipe because the healer croaked. We just used all our gizmos/abilities to get by.
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« Reply #2472 on: December 20, 2011, 04:55:58 AM »

Servers are back up.
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« Reply #2473 on: December 20, 2011, 05:24:55 AM »

Quote from: ydejin on December 20, 2011, 04:55:58 AM

Servers are back up.

I am in a queue.  I guess Dreshdae Cantina is a popular server since it looks like the others don't show as full.
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« Reply #2474 on: December 20, 2011, 05:27:31 AM »

Others had the same idea and checked in a little early. No problem getting on Canderous that way smile 

Happy release day everyone, I'm going to bed.
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« Reply #2475 on: December 20, 2011, 05:44:25 AM »

I hopped into Dresdrae right after reading Ydejin's note though I suspected server traffic ramped up quickly after that.
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« Reply #2476 on: December 20, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »

Here's a peek at servers at this hour (about 8:45 a.m. EST, Tuesday):


*They so far do seem to be keeping que waits reasonable. There are probably more beyond this, it's just what I squeezed into one screenshot. Given the early hour (most of West Coast isn't up yet), I'm sure there'll be more West Coast servers getting pounded in a couple hours.
*I just barely started Empire characters on Shadowlands and don't remember getting invited to a guild.  icon_confused

If you're interested in less trafficked servers:

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« Reply #2477 on: December 20, 2011, 03:22:56 PM »

I ordered the game, but haven't had a chance to play it yet. I might get an hour or so this afternoon, but that will be it until tomorrow at the earliest.

Stupid question, but what server is the gt guild on? I fell behind in the thread, and came back to a ton of unread pages.
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« Reply #2478 on: December 20, 2011, 03:34:02 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on December 20, 2011, 03:22:56 PM

I ordered the game, but haven't had a chance to play it yet. I might get an hour or so this afternoon, but that will be it until tomorrow at the earliest.

Stupid question, but what server is the gt guild on? I fell behind in the thread, and came back to a ton of unread pages.
Dresdrae Cantina (PVE-East U.S.), but it's really slammed this morning so I wouldn't begrudge anyone for starting characters on other servers, or joining The Wanderers etc. Just keep DC in mind for your long term plans please.  icon_smile

To be honest, we're really just using it for chat. I don't think any of us has even seen each other in the game world to this point. I won't have a lot of time to play until Thursday night so I'm kinda hoping other folks will catch up to me a bit (L21).

I created a couple characters on The Shadowlands but that was full this morning too. One of the new servers added for launch (see the SWTOR news/dev tracker thread here) might be a safer bet if the wait ques look bad on the "established" servers.
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« Reply #2479 on: December 20, 2011, 05:21:38 PM »

Quote from: Blackjack on December 20, 2011, 03:34:02 PM

To be honest, we're really just using it for chat. I don't think any of us has even seen each other in the game world to this point. I won't have a lot of time to play until Thursday night so I'm kinda hoping other folks will catch up to me a bit (L21).

I've bumped into a few while jogging around but I have yet to group with anyone.

I usually just /wave.
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