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« Reply #280 on: January 25, 2011, 12:55:49 AM »

Sadly, I'm stuck in Canada on business the next two weeks.  No Beta 5 for me.  

So for those in it, tell me what's changed since Beta 4?
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« Reply #281 on: January 25, 2011, 12:58:19 AM »

One of those girls cracks me up because she plays a tank and her husband is the healer. 
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« Reply #282 on: January 25, 2011, 01:07:12 AM »

You gotta problem with guys playing healers?  saywhat

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« Reply #283 on: January 25, 2011, 01:08:39 AM »

Quote from: Blackadar on January 25, 2011, 12:55:49 AM

Sadly, I'm stuck in Canada on business the next two weeks.  No Beta 5 for me.  

So for those in it, tell me what's changed since Beta 4?

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Beta 5 Preview - It's been a busy couple weeks!

    Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Beta 5 Preview!

    We’ve tried to take as much advantage of the relative calm between Beta 4 and Beta 5 as we possibly could. Here are some of the highlights to look forward to in Beta 5 tomorrow. We'd like to detail a number of them and also shed some light on a few things for Beta 6 and beyond.

    New For Beta 5

    We're expecting Beta 5 to be at least twice as big as beta 4! By the end of Beta 4, we were running a total of 18 servers. 8 in our Europe datacenter and 10 in the US. This time we're opening up with 16 in each region, for a total of 32 servers, all with higher population caps, more than doubling the number of people who can be online at once.

        If you get caught in too long of a queue during the middle of beta, know that we'll be keeping an eye out to see if we need to open even more.

    Public Grouping. This was a big one for us -- just about the single most requested item -- and we're really happy to have it in game for you to try out already.


        First, as you're wandering around the world and target people, if they're solo or ingroups/raids that are willing to accept new public members, you'll see a new button in the target frame that lets you join their group or merge your group into theirs if it fits.

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        Second, when you walk into an area where there's an event occurring (or an event like an invasion walks up to you), if there are other friendly players in the area who are open to grouping, you'll see a button up on the top of the screen that lets you join the nearest Public Group.

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        Note that if your group merges and gets automatically upgraded into a Raid, you shouldn't take a huge XP penalty as with most games. Since Raiding is a valid way to play through the levelling up experience in Rift, most notably in mass zone events, we want to ensure that XP gains there are meaningful and fun.

    Planar Foci and Currencies. An entire new character sheet awaits! Foci weren't as clear as they could be and Planar Currencies were taking up too much inventory space. The stats display was a little crowded at times as well. We've got a new version of the character sheet in place the addresses many of the issues people had been commenting on. Expect continued polish and functionality here in the future, and we hope you enjoy the inventory space reclamation in the meanwhile.

        In terms of currencies, to make the whole system make more sense in general, the older per-zone token currencies are now various tiers of Sourcestone, and the common event tokens are now a single currency called Planarite. Expect to see more uses for these over time, including expansions of wardstone reinforcement and other world offense/defense metagame elements.

    Rogue Energy. Rogue energy regeneration got a rework this update, and it definitely does feel a lot better. Give it a crack and let us know if you like the new responsiveness and lack of energy starvation!

    Tab Targeting / Target Nearest. Tab targeting got a significant usability upgrade, and Target Nearest Friendly / Target Nearest Enemy are now bindable functions with F6 and F7.

    Key Bindings. "How do I bind hotkeys?!" If you've been in beta, you've seen this question. A lot.

        Our method of keybinding hotbars where you just mouse over the hotbar then press the letter was confusing a lot of people. It was the most asked "how do I" question throughout the beta so far. Our original way is still there, but the old-school method of listing out each keybind in the keybinds window has been added as well.

    Discoveries and Firsts. As items, creatures and achievements get discovered for the first time, the game now keeps track of how many you’ve been the first to find. The messages around this are going to be a bit too frequent through the opening of beta, but will calm down rapidly as elements in the world are Discovered. It’s a system that we’re still tuning, and your feedback is definitely appreciated.

    Ranged Weapon Sounds. We've had comments in the past on the sounds of these not being meaty enough. We've been taking those to heart, and we agree. We’ve started to improve some of these sounds and will continue to do so throughout the life of the game. See if you can pick out the new ones, and let us know what you think!

    PvP Auto Flag. This is now an option available under Settings -> Interface -> Combat. You can disable it if you wish to not be automatically flagged while in PvE areas/servers.

    Invasion Improvements. Invasions as a whole got some significant love this update. Expect a lot more variance in their size, and much better adaptability to the sizes of defending forces. (Which means you'll be a lot less likely to see a rift send out three waves of elite packs to deal with a relatively undefended area. They’re not supposed to be Global Steamrollers.)

        On their Leashing and Social Aggro: Invasions were previously an all-or-nothing kind of experience. With larger numbers of players getting involved, they would leash and reset the whole invasion too frequently, and it was an item we got a lot of feedback on. We've addressed this in Beta 5. If you can peel one off while the others are distracted, more power to you!

    New Visible Stats. Along with the new character sheet, you're going to see two stats that were previously not being displayed: Toughness and Valor.

        Toughness is a PvE Tanking stat. Its purpose is provide a defensive upgrade path in upper tiers of PvE content, and is one more way to ensure that tanks can progress in PvE without being broken-overpowered in PvP due to their PvE gear. (PvE gear is still very useful, just not overpowering.)

        Just like high end casters need Focus and physical DPS need some amount of Hit, high end tanks need Toughness to deal with more difficult monsters. All that said, Toughness, Focus and Hit make up a small amount of the overall stat distribution that you’ll see on your PvE items.

        Valor is a PvP damage reduction stat. It's been in the game for quite some time and is now showing up on the new character sheet and in the tooltips for items that provide it.

        Our game supports both PvP and PvE progression. A stat like Valor gives us an important tool to use in tuning the high end of those progressions.

        NPCs and Players are not balanced identically, nor should they be. The pace of play is very different between the two styles. Fun PvE and fun PvP are generally two very different things. Nerfing PvE abilities for the sake of PvP, as other games have found themselves forced to do, is something that we're trying to avoid wherever possible,

        In providing a good PvP progression, we need to ensure that we can provide good rewards, without forcing people to play a part of the game they might not care to.

        PvE gear remains competitive in PvP, and PvP gear remains competitive in PvE. It just won't be a trump card in the opposite style of play. You shouldn't expect to need to "grind" two full sets of gear just to have fun.

        A stat like Valor is one more tool we can use to ensure that, for instance, the ideal PvP rewards do not become the de-facto best PvE Tanking rewards in the game. (Without Valor, significant PvP survivability also becomes PvE survivability…and, conversely, the best PvE DPS loot would become the de-facto best PvP DPS loot). We’d effectively be forcing people to gear up one way just to succeed at the other, since NPCs are balanced much differently than players.

        Some people think these are a great idea, and others are less than thrilled due to negative experiences with related-sounding mechanics in other games that provide E-Sport style PvP, which we have intentionally not included and do not have plans to. Other games have their issues to design for, and we have ours. The two are definitely different.

        Q: Am I going to have to "grind" two sets of gear the entire time?

        A: No. Gear from each kind of play is competitive in the other side. It's just not overpowering to the other side. It remains a great head start. We expect that the highest end PvP and PvE'ers will choose to care, but the majority won't find that its existence impacts their gameplay in a negative way, since we are not balancing the game around any kind of E-Sport style Arenas, as other games have.

        Q: Why can't you balance everything around Health?

        A: Players are infinitely smarter than creatures, and abilities are used in both PvE and PvP. Having PvP damage reduction be purely about health would create a situation where almost necessitate PvE tanks to have to gear up via PvP. We are primarily trying to ensure that people who choose to only take part in one style of play aren't "forced" to take part in the other.

        We like to think that we've so far been pretty good at reacting once things have proven to work or not work in Rift. As with any other mechanic in the game, we'll be keeping an eye on it. If it's making the game not fun, it will be addressed.


    Here's what's on deck for future Betas:

    Activated Racial Abilities. We know that some of them are overpowered and bring the whole concept out of whack. Our original idea was: "let's make sure these things are really fun." In our doing this, they've almost turned into a powergamer IQ test. It's not good for anyone if we effectively lock a race to a given play style. (e.g. all Tanks must be one race and all DPS must be another, or you're Doing It Wrong). Expect updates to the racials following this beta.

    Master Loot. Yes, it's coming! Groups and raids will be able to have a Master Looter who's in charge of assigning out loot.

    Collections merge into the new Character Sheet. "Where are my mounts? Where are my titles?" Now that we've designed a character sheet that can fit them in a way that looks good and is more usable, collections will make their way into it as well.

    War Powers. We have a lot of consumable items in the game that are focused on the idea of the war between the planes and the rifts and the land-control meta game. Expect a special place for them in the Abilities tab and a resource to power them soon. Time to get them out of your inventory, provide a better sense of discovering them, and get them into a place where they make a whole lot more sense. Expect more details here in the future.


    We're looking forward to this largest Beta we've ever run. While there will definitely be some bumps, we'll be right there with you the entire time to make sure everything goes as well as it possibly can.

    - The RIFT Development Team
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« Reply #284 on: January 25, 2011, 01:15:27 AM »

Quote from: onnel on January 25, 2011, 01:07:12 AM

You gotta problem with guys playing healers?  saywhat

Quote from: Harkonis on January 25, 2011, 12:58:19 AM

One of those girls cracks me up because she plays a tank and her husband is the healer. 

easily 90% of women who play MMO's play healers and in most couples it's a tank/healer combo but male tank/female healer.

Nothing wrong with a guy playing a healer though, hell Ritt usually plays one  icon_twisted
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« Reply #285 on: January 25, 2011, 01:37:51 AM »

the beta preview reads like I wrote it...  'you're Doing It Wrong!'  ninja
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« Reply #286 on: January 25, 2011, 01:46:25 AM »

I'd like to know your experiences with the public grouping.  This was one of my major complaints from beta 4.
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« Reply #287 on: January 25, 2011, 02:06:00 AM »

Quote from: Blackadar on January 25, 2011, 12:55:49 AM

Sadly, I'm stuck in Canada on business the next two weeks.  No Beta 5 for me.  

They still don't have internet in Canada?  Is it because the internet wires freeze up due to the cold weather?
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« Reply #288 on: January 25, 2011, 02:07:38 AM »

Quote from: skystride on January 25, 2011, 02:06:00 AM

Quote from: Blackadar on January 25, 2011, 12:55:49 AM

Sadly, I'm stuck in Canada on business the next two weeks.  No Beta 5 for me.  

They still don't have internet in Canada?  Is it because the internet wires freeze up due to the cold weather?

the rabid mooses eat the cables.
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« Reply #289 on: January 25, 2011, 12:01:41 PM »

Beta 5 patch notes are posted:

http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?33871-Beta-5-Patch-Notes-1-24-11
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« Reply #290 on: January 25, 2011, 12:36:59 PM »

Damn that is a huge patch list...

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GRAPHICS AND AUDIO
* Antialiasing is now an option under Advanced Video Settings. This reduces the 'jaggies' along the outlines of objects by using an edge-smoothing technique.
* 2x and 4x Antialising options are also available. These generate higher quality antialiasing results at the a VERY LARGE expense of framerate. If your video card is already operating at max, this feature can cost you 50 to 75% of your FPS.
* Improved draw distance and far vistas for all players.
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« Reply #291 on: January 25, 2011, 12:47:26 PM »

A number of The Wanderers will be rolling Defiant faction characters on Briarcliff to check out open PvP during the rest of the beta events.  Post your character names here if you want to roll with us and we'll get you an invite once we form the guild.

The Wanderers:  http://www.the-wanderers-guild.com/portal.php
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« Reply #292 on: January 25, 2011, 04:21:47 PM »

i'll join!
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« Reply #293 on: January 25, 2011, 05:07:39 PM »

I'll join up as well, going to try to make Faide tonight if the name isn't already taken.
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« Reply #294 on: January 25, 2011, 05:57:58 PM »

servers are up, but Briar isn't
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« Reply #295 on: January 25, 2011, 06:14:09 PM »

I cant even get past the intro movie.  It freezes up everytime at the loading screen (where you see a %)
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« Reply #296 on: January 25, 2011, 06:34:12 PM »

Quote from: Harkonis on January 25, 2011, 05:57:58 PM

servers are up, but Briar isn't

Is this the server everyone will be on for this beta?
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« Reply #297 on: January 25, 2011, 06:42:16 PM »

As best as I can tell, servers were only up for about thirty minutes and then they all went kablooie.
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« Reply #298 on: January 25, 2011, 06:48:10 PM »

Quote from: Harkonis on January 25, 2011, 01:15:27 AM

Quote from: onnel on January 25, 2011, 01:07:12 AM

You gotta problem with guys playing healers?  saywhat

Quote from: Harkonis on January 25, 2011, 12:58:19 AM

One of those girls cracks me up because she plays a tank and her husband is the healer. 

easily 90% of women who play MMO's play healers and in most couples it's a tank/healer combo but male tank/female healer.

Nothing wrong with a guy playing a healer though, hell Ritt usually plays one  icon_twisted

Did you just call me a guy?!?!? 
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« Reply #299 on: January 25, 2011, 06:54:37 PM »

Quote from: Gryndyl on January 25, 2011, 06:42:16 PM

As best as I can tell, servers were only up for about thirty minutes and then they all went kablooie.

they are still up

Briar has a login queue, but it'll be worth it to wait it out.  no sense making a char on a server other than the planned one imo.
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« Reply #300 on: January 25, 2011, 06:55:04 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on January 25, 2011, 06:48:10 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on January 25, 2011, 01:15:27 AM

Quote from: onnel on January 25, 2011, 01:07:12 AM

You gotta problem with guys playing healers?  saywhat

Quote from: Harkonis on January 25, 2011, 12:58:19 AM

One of those girls cracks me up because she plays a tank and her husband is the healer. 

easily 90% of women who play MMO's play healers and in most couples it's a tank/healer combo but male tank/female healer.

Nothing wrong with a guy playing a healer though, hell Ritt usually plays one  icon_twisted

Did you just call me a guy?!?!? 

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« Reply #301 on: January 25, 2011, 07:15:56 PM »

Hmm, servers seems to be down - at least, I cant log in to the game - just says disconnected from server whenever I try to start the game.

oh well - its probably better to not play so much, since we'll loose the characters when launch occurs.
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« Reply #302 on: January 25, 2011, 07:29:24 PM »

I don't know if it's related but my sound completely cuts out for no apparent reason and when I try and relog to fix it it tells me servers are down. As long as I stay in I'm fine, just with no sound. Not sure if ithe sound issue is related to the server issue or if it's just been a coincidence so far.
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« Reply #303 on: January 25, 2011, 07:35:31 PM »

OK I got in on Briarcliff right as the servers came up.  Saw some system messages about server problems but I was able to stay in and play.  Got my Defiant Cleric (named Puplit) to level 7.  Once we form the guild you can whisper me for an invite.  It takes 1 plat and 5 players ( I think) to form a guild so we probably won't do it today.
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« Reply #304 on: January 25, 2011, 07:40:04 PM »

Servers seen back up.  Clicked on Briarcliff to make a character, but got put in a queue that says it will take 16 minutes to get in.
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« Reply #305 on: January 25, 2011, 08:12:47 PM »

is the 49% a mini game? How do I beat it?
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« Reply #306 on: January 25, 2011, 08:14:42 PM »

Devs said they were having some login issues and were working on it. Seems like the beta testing is working  icon_cool
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« Reply #307 on: January 25, 2011, 08:23:09 PM »

Yeah, they are pounding the servers this time.  Every server is stuffed to capacity.  That's what a beta is for however.

Oh, and my main on Briarcliff, once I get in, is Spectre, a level 10 Marksman/Ranger.
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« Reply #308 on: January 25, 2011, 08:32:16 PM »

yeah, i'll just wait until after work. at 2am, no one will be on.
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« Reply #309 on: January 25, 2011, 09:02:01 PM »

Servers going down at 1:00 PST for hotfix. Back up at 1:30 PST. In theory biggrin
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« Reply #310 on: January 25, 2011, 10:13:16 PM »

I saw plenty of low-population servers when I logged on half an hour ago.
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« Reply #311 on: January 26, 2011, 12:53:44 AM »

Still can't get in, keep locking up at the loading screen after the video
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« Reply #312 on: January 26, 2011, 02:02:59 AM »

Got on the server and made Faide.  He's a warrior - Beastmaster.

I'll be on after dinner , hopefully can hook up with some of you! smile
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« Reply #313 on: January 26, 2011, 02:15:32 AM »

2 hour wait on Briarcliff right now, gonna roll elsewhere for this beta.
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« Reply #314 on: January 26, 2011, 02:20:25 AM »

It's bad everywhere right now.  Got disconnected about 10 times from Briarcliff.  Lots of bad lag.  Gonna try again in the morning.
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« Reply #315 on: January 26, 2011, 02:22:34 AM »

had a 15 minute wait to log in on Belmont. Then, 3 disconnects in about half an hour, although I only get dumped to the character screen, avoiding the queue. There have been world announcements they are working on the server stability issues and expect a fix in a few hours. I'll try back tomorrow night.
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« Reply #316 on: January 26, 2011, 02:31:22 AM »

Quote from: Elmo on January 26, 2011, 02:20:25 AM

It's bad everywhere right now.  Got disconnected about 10 times from Briarcliff.  Lots of bad lag.  Gonna try again in the morning.

yeah, I tried attacking something and nothing happened, so I tried another mob and nothing, rinse and repeat a couple of times.



and then the game caught up.
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« Reply #317 on: January 26, 2011, 02:36:37 AM »

this game is gorgeous.  meet my toon on Gnarlwood, Yvorianina.  I went with a champion human rogue to kick things off.

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« Reply #318 on: January 26, 2011, 02:46:03 AM »

wish I could play....  don't even know if it's on my end or theirs.  I have everything updated...
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« Reply #319 on: January 26, 2011, 02:55:01 AM »

Quote from: naednek on January 26, 2011, 02:46:03 AM

wish I could play....  don't even know if it's on my end or theirs.  I have everything updated...

It's almost certainly not your end.  Trion was having serious problems with the network/servers tonight.  Looks like they bit off more than they could chew with adding so many new players.
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