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« on: November 11, 2011, 01:52:32 AM »

Free to play Q&A: http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5027

    Many of you reading this letter are long-time EverQuest and EverQuest II players. You’ve been part of the SOE family for a long time (earlier this week was EQII’s 7-year anniversary!) and our aim is to take care of you and keep you entertained for years to come.

    Part of caring for our customers is listening to you and hearing what you have to say. Additionally, we need to be aware of changes in the industry, changes in player expectations, and larger economic trends in general.

    We’ve listened to your concerns about the complexity of the subscription structure, how the separate forums between EQII and EQ2X divide the community unnecessarily, that the Live Gamer servers are under-populated, and that many people want more flexibility with payment options so they can better manage their personal budgets.

    We believe the key to meeting your expectations is to provide more flexibility and to deliver what you want when you want it, whether it’s basic game content, full subscription access to the game, or something in-between. So in early December we’re going to change things to be “Free to Play. Your Way.” Let me explain what that means…

    Membership and Pricing Changes

    There will no longer be an up-front fee for downloading and installing the game. You no longer have to buy the software in order to use it, and game content through the Sentinel’s Fate expansion will be available to all players without charge. You simply download, and then launch and play the game for free.

    Last year, we created a successful, but separate, “free to play” service for EQII called “EverQuest II: Extended” (EQ2X). However, now that all servers are becoming free-to-play, we are combining both services together and EverQuest II (including the EQ2X servers) will operate as a single game with a single membership structure.

    The new membership structure for EverQuest II is simpler and easier to understand than the one we used previously, and we’ve adjusted the model so that Gold members in EverQuest II will get everything that current EQII subscribers do currently.

    Here are the differences between the new EverQuest II membership model and the prior EQ2X membership model:

        Gold membership in EverQuest II will provide access to all races and classes (except the Freeblood race and the Beastlord class) and is identical in all ways to the current subscription status on EQII Live servers.
        The free membership level will be called “Free” instead of “Bronze.”
        Silver membership now costs 500 Station Cash instead of 1,000 Station Cash. (If you purchased a Silver membership in EverQuest II: Extended within the 60 days before the launch of this change, 500 Station Cash will be refunded to your Station Wallet.)
        Players can no longer purchase a Platinum membership. Existing Platinum memberships will continue until they expire.
        A matrix showing the details of the three new EverQuest II membership levels – Free, Silver, and Gold – is available here: (insert link)

    So basically, you can play at the Free level (with restrictions), upgrade to Silver to remove a bunch of those restrictions… or sign up for Gold membership and remove *all* of those restrictions, depending on which expansions you have on your account.

    Additionally, Gold memberships are no longer required to recur each month. We will have non-recurring memberships that you can purchase with Station Cash or real-world currency. Recurring and non-recurring Gold memberships will be available for 1, 3, 6, and 12-month durations. Recurring memberships are still available for those of us who don’t like having to remember to pay each month, and recurring memberships also get the perk of a Station Cash bonus grant each month.

    The aim is to give you as much flexibility as possible, without drowning you in a sea of confusing options. Free, Silver, or Gold at whatever duration and recurring state that you desire. It’s up to you to play EQII your way.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 03:46:24 AM »

This is where X comes in here and says "No, the game was failing and going F2P was the only way to save it!"

And Y comes and accuses X of being a troll and says "No, this means the servers will finally be full of players and it'll be so awesome! Just you wait and see!"

Then Blackjack the smart-aleck says something like, "Hey, I'm holding out for Ultima Online and Meredian 59 going F2P!"

And thus, I have predicted the future of this thread. Please don't disappoint me.  smirk
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 04:28:57 AM »

Your know, the game was failing and going F2P was the only way to save it!  At least there will be more people playing (until SWTOR releases anyway  icon_twisted)
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 09:16:59 AM »

No, this means the servers will finally be full of players and it'll be so awesome! Just you wait and see!
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 05:08:19 PM »

I'd love to see Ultima Online go free to play!  christ on a penguin that game has been out long enough it should have been one of the first to do so.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 05:16:39 PM »

Looks like they are also getting rid of the Bazaar and Vox servers.  The servers that let you sell your characters and items on the Liver Gamer service.  I got this email letting me know that things are coming to an end:

On December 14, 2011 the Exchange will close auction services for all SOE games…

After careful consideration and review, Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) and Live Gamer (LG) have mutually made the decision to discontinue auction services currently available in EverQuest II (EQII), Free Realms and Vanguard.  Beginning on December 14, 2011, SOE will suspend exchange services for all three games.  For EQII, SOE will merge the LG exchange-based servers with its existing game servers, specifically Vox will merge with Nagafen and The Bazaar with Freeport.  LG continues to be a valuable partner to SOE for a variety of e-commerce services.  SOE and LG will be updating the FAQs from time-to-time to help answer questions you have regarding the discontinuance of the auction services.

Important dates:
11/21/2011 – Last day to transfer items from game to LG account holding area.
11/22/2011 – Last day to list an item for sale on the Exchange
12/13/2011- Last day to transfer items from your holding area back to your game
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 06:10:55 AM »

looks like they extended the letter a bit:  http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/5028

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Many of you reading this letter are long-time EverQuest and EverQuest II players. You've been part of the SOE family for a long time (earlier this week was EQII's 7-year anniversary!) and our aim is to take care of you and keep you entertained for years to come.

Part of caring for our customers is listening to you and hearing what you have to say. Additionally, we need to be aware of changes in the industry, changes in player expectations, and larger economic trends in general.

We've listened to your concerns about the complexity of the subscription structure, how the separate forums between EQII and EQ2X divide the community unnecessarily, that the Live Gamer servers are under-populated, and that many people want more flexibility with payment options so they can better manage their personal budgets.

We believe the key to meeting your expectations is to provide more flexibility and to deliver what you want when you want it, whether it's basic game content, full subscription access to the game, or something in-between. So in early December we're going to change things to be "Free to Play. Your Way." Let me explain what that means…

Membership and Pricing Changes

There will no longer be an up-front fee for downloading and installing the game. You no longer have to buy the software in order to use it, and game content through the Sentinel's Fate expansion will be available to all players without charge. You simply download, and then launch and play the game for free.

Last year, we created a successful, but separate, "free to play" service for EQII called "EverQuest II: Extended" (EQ2X). However, now that all servers are becoming free-to-play, we are combining both services together and EverQuest II (including the EQ2X servers) will operate as a single game with a single membership structure.

The new membership structure for EverQuest II is simpler and easier to understand than the one we used previously, and we've adjusted the model so that Gold members in EverQuest II will get everything that current EQII subscribers do currently.

Here are the differences between the new EverQuest II membership model and the prior EQ2X membership model:

    Gold membership in EverQuest II will provide access to all races and classes (except the Freeblood race and the Beastlord class) and is identical in all ways to the current subscription status on EQII Live servers.
    The free membership level will be called "Free" instead of "Bronze."
    Silver membership now costs 500 Station Cash instead of 1,000 Station Cash. (If you purchased a Silver membership in EverQuest II: Extended within the 60 days before the launch of this change, 500 Station Cash will be refunded to your Station Wallet.)
    Players can no longer purchase a Platinum membership. Existing Platinum memberships will continue until they expire.
    A matrix showing the details of the three new EverQuest II membership levels – Free, Silver, and Gold – is available here: http://everquest2.com/free_to_play/game_overview

So basically, you can play at the Free level (with restrictions), upgrade to Silver to remove a bunch of those restrictions… or sign up for Gold membership and remove *all* of those restrictions, depending on which expansions you have on your account.

Additionally, Gold memberships are no longer required to recur each month. We will have non-recurring memberships that you can purchase with Station Cash or real-world currency. Recurring and non-recurring Gold memberships will be available for 1, 3, 6, and 12-month durations. Recurring memberships are still available for those of us who don't like having to remember to pay each month, and recurring memberships also get the perk of a Station Cash bonus grant each month.

The aim is to give you as much flexibility as possible, without drowning you in a sea of confusing options. Free, Silver, or Gold at whatever duration and recurring state that you desire. It's up to you to play EQII your way.

How Does this Affect Me?

For EverQuest II players, at the end of the day all we're basically doing is making your subscription optional. For EQ2X players, we're simplifying the membership model and adding benefits to the Gold membership. That's about it.

If you're an existing EQII subscriber and you keep your subscription active then the change will be in name only. We will simply call you a "Gold" member instead of a subscriber.

    The conversion will be seamless; at launch, your current subscription status will roll over directly to an equivalent recurring Gold membership. The cost is the same, and all your benefits are exactly the same, including veteran status. There is no difference in service and you don't need to do anything unless you desire to change your membership status.

If you're an existing EQ2X player, then you will not be affected, except that Gold members will actually get a bonus.

    If you are a Bronze member, you will simply be called a Free member instead.

    Silver members will carry on as if nothing had changed.

    Gold memberships have been improved! They now have access to all races and classes (except the Freeblood race and the Beastlord class). (If you purchased a Race Pack in the 60 days before the launch of this transition, we will refund the Station Cash for that purchase.)

    Platinum membership is going away. If you are an existing Platinum member, your Platinum membership will continue until normal expiration with all of the original benefits. That membership is currently set to recur, so if you don't change it, you will stay a Platinum member and continue to get those benefits. However, if you drop Platinum membership, you'll be unable to re-subscribe to it. You'd have to rejoin at a Gold membership level for continued full access to the Game.

How Does this Change Benefit Me?

Some of the changes affect you directly, whereas some of the others are more of a "soft return" that makes your gaming experience better by making the game better as a whole.

Here's a few of the obvious benefits:

    More population! Our recent launch of free-to-play for DC Universe Online has been extremely successful with tons of new players logging on within the first week (1000 percent increase in concurrents!). With more players, everyone benefits!
    Payment flexibility! You don't want to pay anything at all? We can do that. You want to pay month-by-month? No problem. You want an annual recurring membership because you're going to be playing this game until 2050 and don't want to think about it? We can do that too!
    Better service! By merging EverQuest II: Extended and the original EverQuest II into a single game our messaging will become much easier and we will be able to focus our attention on one game instead of two.

What Does this Mean for the Future?

Our content delivery plans are unchanged. We're still going to be delivering everything we've promised previously, and a lot more.

As a reminder, here are a few things we've committed to you previously (and maybe a bit of detail you haven't heard before):

    We're going to create more content for "Destiny of Velious" through 2013. Skyshrine, the Withered Lands, Siren's Grotto, Cobalt Scar, the Western Wastes and more are all being worked on currently and will be released periodically during that time. Velious is a huge continent and we're giving it the justice it deserves. Please note that there is no additional price tag for this content if you own the "Destiny of Velious" expansion; all this content will be open to you when it is released.
    Next summer, we'll be revamping Qeynos as we're doing with Freeport right now. Just as Freeport is being Reborn, we'll be returning the "Greater Good" to Qeynos, making it a much more interesting and vibrant city, pivotal to Norrath once again.
    We intend to revisit old backwaters in Norrath, bringing them back to life with new content and new ways to game in those areas.
    In many cases where we've released features or fixes in the past couple of years, we had contingency "Phase 2" plans for many of those features. We're going to circle back around and implement many of those Phase 2 plans (including much of the feedback we received on those features), improving them and making them even higher quality than they already are.
    Plus a lot, lot more. We'll release more details on those things as we get closer in 2012.

The EQII dev team is still fired up about this game. We all love what we're doing and we want to make this the best MMORPG in the industry, partly out of desire to deliver great entertainment, and partly out of pure pride of craft.

We're also looking into mechanisms that allow you, the players, to help guide us on what gets developed in the future. Look for more on that soon. In the meantime, a great way to provide feedback is through the forums, as well as through Facebook and Twitter. We'll also be covering topics you surface in our livecasts so be sure to tune in.

What about "Power Items" in the Marketplace?

EQ2X currently has a list of items that are not available on the regular server marketplaces. These include:

    Power potion
    Health potion
    Self-rez scroll
    Wand of Obliteration
    Rune of Devastation
    Mastercrafted Equipment (all)
    Tradeskill Components

These items will no longer be offered on the marketplace when this revamp occurs.

We may reintroduce some of these items again later-on, but we intend to do some in-game polling of players about how we might bring them back before we do it. You will get a chance to chime in and we'll incorporate the results accordingly.

What about Live Gamer?

The Live Gamer ("Exchange") servers were set up to allow players to sell items, coin and even characters to each other for real-world profit. Those servers were walled off from other servers and over time, their popularity has waned to the point where their populations are currently very small.

We're going to liberate those players and characters by turning off the Live Gamer service, and merging the existing Exchange populations into other servers already in existence.

In mid-December, we'll merge Vox with Nagafen (where they can continue to play in their chosen PvP style), and then merging The Bazaar with Freeport. There are more steps than that involved, of course:

    We'll shut off the ability to post new sales in mid-November.
    The auction service itself will be discontinued in early December.
    The server merges will happen about a week after the auction service is shut off, with Vox first, and then The Bazaar a couple days later. This will occur in mid-December.

If you don't have the time or inclination to log onto an Exchange server to take your sales down, we'll auto-return the items to you at the time that we shut down the auction service in early December.

What? You're Still Reading? Okay… A Summary!

All of this (and more) is planned to happen on the same day in early December (we'll announce the exact date as we get closer):

    "Age of Discovery" expansion launch (pre-order available now!).
    GU 62 -"Freeport Reborn" launch, free to all players!
    Free-to-play conversion.
    A brand new website with an all new players section!
    And more. Yes, there's still more that needs to firm up before being announced!

When all is said and done, there will only be two types of servers, PvE and PvP. You'll have complete flexibility on payment options. There will no longer be a mandatory up-front cost of any sort.

Everyone will be a winner.

Today, we'll be doing a Community Webcast covering all of this. Please be sure to send in any questions you might have via the Facebook page or Twitter so we can respond with answers during the Webcast!

You're going to love Age of Discovery, and Freeport is fantastic. Now that everything else is so incredibly flexible as well, there's a ton to love about EQII. We're looking forward to a great future with you!

-- Dave "SmokeJumper" Georgeson
EverQuest II Executive Producer
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 05:36:02 PM »

In case anyone cares, Age of Discovery launches December 6th, so I imagine F2P does too, or if not, close to it.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 01:39:10 AM »

Well, everything launched today and of course everything is down.  The latest update says it's unlikely to be up before 11pm est.  Got to try out the Beastlord in the beta and it's really nice (and my next character).  The new Freeport is beautiful.  I just wish they would upgrade some of the other art assets or at least get shader 3 actually fixed.

EDIT: servers back up tomorrow now.  Still no better ETA except that it will be at least 10am est.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 04:34:06 PM »

So, what is the Beastlord class like anyhow in EQ2? Is it basically EQ1's Beastlord (pet does DPS, player is more or less a Shaman/Monk)?
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 10:07:41 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on December 07, 2011, 04:34:06 PM

So, what is the Beastlord class like anyhow in EQ2? Is it basically EQ1's Beastlord (pet does DPS, player is more or less a Shaman/Monk)?

BL is now a cross between a bruiser and scout and the pets can be offensive or defensive and solo or party buffers.  Pets also get their own AA trees. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 07:44:09 AM »

None of the info posted here so far gives the limitations for F2P players. So here's the list for at least the races and classes:

4 free races included with FREE and Silver Memberships are:
Human
Erudite
Barbarian
Half-Elf

8 free classes included with FREE and Silver Memberships are:
Swashbuckler (Scout subclass)
Brigand (Scout subclass)
Wizard (Mage subclass)
Warlock (Mage subclass)
Guardian (Fighter subclass)
Berserker (Fighter subclass)
Templar (Healer subclass)
Inquisitor (Healer subclass)

Considering there's 26 different subclasses and 20 races, that's quite a limitation. I can understand it for the F2P, but restricting silver ($5/month) accounts to that seems like 1 heckuva limitation. Still the F2P choices aren't much less than DDO Unlimitted and not too many complain about it.

[Edit] Looks like I was misinformed about the Silver level costs- the $5 is a 1 time cost. It gives the following benefits: 2 more toon slots for total of 4, removes the Adept spell tiers limitation and allows Expert Spells, 2 more bag slots for a total of 4, 2 shared bank slots, increases the gold/level limit from 5 to 20 per level and increases the number of active quests from 20 to 40. If this allows you to play all content that's featured in all the expansions to date, that's quite honeslty one of the lowest prices in the MMO market. Apparently you can also buy an additional race and class for $15. I'm fine with whats in the base, but for those who must play a dwarf or elf that's not too costly.

I'm jumping in, but having only ever played EQ1 I'm at a bit of a loss where to begin. As of late I prefer Sword & Sorcery and Dark Fantasy over High Fantasy or Epic Fantasy, but it looks like this EQ2 setting is more along the lines of those latter 2 subgenres. From what I've read (the manual I'm reading is old) you only start in Freeport if you're a character of evil alignment/disposition. I'm wondering which combinations of those above races and classes would allow me to start their and roleplay more of a darker, S&S type toon?

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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 04:46:47 PM »

I haven't played in ages but it seems like all those free race/classes are neutral and can start in either city.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 05:03:59 PM »

Quote from: skystride on December 08, 2011, 04:46:47 PM

I haven't played in ages but it seems like all those free race/classes are neutral and can start in either city.

Yup, after rereading the manual I realised they were all neutral - no doubt why SOE has made those the base races and classes. From what little I've found on the 2 base healer subclasses provided (Templar and Inquisitor) it sounds like they're similar to a D&D cleric in that they can be decently armored and deal some melee damage . I don't mind playing supports, but I don't care for those that can't  melee half decently.
Are both of those healer classes on par with a D&D cleric? Is EQ2 like D&D in that some races have natural abilities that make them better suited to some classes?
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2011, 04:07:06 AM »

SOE backed down on forcing returning players with default Silver accounts to pay to unlock their old characters if they were not part of the free race/class combos. All characters created prior to December 6th will be grandfathered to unlocked status.

http://www.everquest2.com/news/article?month=current&id=5068

This helps me immensely, as my Wood Elf Warden, Dark Elf Dirge and Froglock Illusionist were all locked when I first logged back in. I started a Half Elf Templar but once the grandfathering takes effect tomorrow, I'll be back on my Warden for sure.  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 04:47:49 AM »

Very smart move, Sony. Hell - armed with that information, I'm tempted to go back myself.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 09:16:26 AM »

I leveled a Human Brigand on the RP server to level 9 tonight and had a fun time doing it. The brigand is definitely proving to be a good class - some nice combat mez's and debuffs.  The 1 downside for me was that Freeport wasn't one of my possible  starting areas, neither was Queynos. I can't remember the name of the 2 cities, but I believe they were on different islands or smaller continents. I'm guessing I need to pay for a good or evil class if I want either of those other 2 areas as choices.

From some reading I did earlier this evening, the Fury sounds to be the best Healer/Priest class for combat, so I'm thinking I'm going to pony up the $7.50 to unlock it. The 7.50 race unlocks actually unlock groups of 3 races. I haven't read it in print, but I've gotten the impression that buying a class or race unlock automaticall takes you to sliver account level.
BTW If you take a new toon to level 20 within 14 days, SOE's rewarding you with a prized item.
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 05:38:03 PM »

Qeynos and Freeport haven't been possible starter city locations for quite some time now (sadly). They were just too outdated as far as quest content went, so they shoved you off to the other 4 starter cities instead.

That said - you can 'live' there if you want (a house, your city port, etc). At least I don't think they changed that around.

The Fury was a great class. It's my highest class overall (level 79 according to the login screen) by far. Simple enough to play, but fun to watch. And you can do a lot as well overall (solo, group, etc).

And AFAIK, buying anything in their store unlocks your Silver access. Or do you have to spend $5 overall to do it... Something like that.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 05:48:00 PM »

Btw, if you are a gold member, and have a recurring subscription, you get 500SC a month.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 06:14:42 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on December 09, 2011, 05:38:03 PM

Qeynos and Freeport haven't been possible starter city locations for quite some time now (sadly). They were just too outdated as far as quest content went, so they shoved you off to the other 4 starter cities instead.

That said - you can 'live' there if you want (a house, your city port, etc). At least I don't think they changed that around.

The Fury was a great class. It's my highest class overall (level 79 according to the login screen) by far. Simple enough to play, but fun to watch. And you can do a lot as well overall (solo, group, etc).

And AFAIK, buying anything in their store unlocks your Silver access. Or do you have to spend $5 overall to do it... Something like that.

Thanks for the info Destructor. The area I ended up starting in was the Timorous Deep. Its decent enough and so far the quests have been better than 90% of the MMO's I've played - really almost on par with LotRO. I'm fairly certain that purchasing any race or class unlock brings you to silver status. From what I've been reading, silver accounts would probably only have problems in the end game - after about lvl 84. Knowing my history with MMO's I doubt I'll play it to that level.
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 08:31:55 PM »

Timorous Deep and New Halas are the 2 main starting areas now and both are excellent...great leveled gear, quest hubs and a story line to take you to 19-21.  Freeport has been completely redone (all one zone, new art) and now it's a quest hub from 20-90.  There's also a "golden path" now with a revamped leveling path from 20+ on that starts in Butcherblock.  Free mounts at 20, 30, 50 and I believe 60.
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 08:35:38 PM »

Limiting the level of abilities to your paid level means any pvp is ruined unless gold sadly.  I had a lot of fun on the pvp server shortly after the fairy expansion
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2011, 08:53:44 PM »

Quote from: ericb on December 09, 2011, 08:31:55 PM

Timorous Deep and New Halas are the 2 main starting areas now and both are excellent...great leveled gear, quest hubs and a story line to take you to 19-21.  Freeport has been completely redone (all one zone, new art) and now it's a quest hub from 20-90.

Cool - good to know I'm almost half way to Freeport. slywink For those who don't find knowledge of the lay of the land a spoiler, this site has maps of all the regions of Norrath, including every expansion.
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2011, 09:00:10 PM »

Quote from: Harkonis on December 09, 2011, 08:35:38 PM

Limiting the level of abilities to your paid level means any pvp is ruined unless gold sadly.  I had a lot of fun on the pvp server shortly after the fairy expansion

Very true. Without true Realm Vs Realm warfare like DAoC or WoW though, PvP really doesn't hold any appeal for me in this or any other MMORPG.
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2011, 10:09:04 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on December 09, 2011, 04:47:49 AM

Very smart move, Sony. Hell - armed with that information, I'm tempted to go back myself.

Sigh...downloading now.
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2011, 10:54:09 PM »

gah, I deleted half my old characters to make room for new f2p ones..so annoying

Btw, playing on Antoni bayle the rp server in the us btw :-)

edit: haha Morlac, no tanks here! I WILL GET YOU!!
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2011, 12:49:52 AM »

Quote from: Razgon on December 09, 2011, 10:54:09 PM

gah, I deleted half my old characters to make room for new f2p ones..so annoying

Btw, playing on Antoni bayle the rp server in the us btw :-)

edit: haha Morlac, no tanks here! I WILL GET YOU!!

A Guardian is a tank!   nod
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2011, 01:10:43 AM »

Also on Antonia Bayle server.

I need to assess what's still locked for my level 68 Warden. I know I'll have locked bags and bank space as a Silver.

For the potential Fury upthread, they are similar to Warden, which I've played, as the two classes that rely mostly on HoTs for healing. Furys have more damaging spells as I recall, but it's been a 3+ years since I played last so who knows if anything's changed. Good survivability against anything except mobs with huge spike damage.
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2011, 03:06:13 PM »

Well, I fired up my account for fun without resubbing. I found that my weapons and like 3 pieces of my armor were unequipped (as they were Legendary classification) and there's no way to get them back short of subscribing.

That said - my house is still there (and works fully even with a floating segment in outer space), all my goodies are still there, and I have a decent chunk of change (not sure how much of it I can access - I have over 300p).

I highly doubt I'll resubscribe - I'm currently paying for Champions Online and TOR launches in less than a week (more or less). But it brought back a lot of good memories seeing everything again.
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2011, 06:56:30 PM »

Having some issues with getting in to the game. I already have everything up to Sentinels Fate installed on my computer, when I launched the station launcher it did a 3GB update but when I tryed entering EQ2 after the update completed I kept getting the message "Login Rejected" Clients Version does not mach the servers." so I uninstalled JUST the sation launcher, re-downloaded and re-installed. Now when I attempt to login Station Launcher is insisting I install the EQ2 Trial. I do not need the trial I already have the game installed eek Anyone know if I need to completely uninstall Eq2 then do a full re-install just to use the F2P??
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2011, 07:15:04 PM »

Quote from: Abaddon on December 10, 2011, 06:56:30 PM

Having some issues with getting in to the game. I already have everything up to Sentinels Fate installed on my computer, when I launched the station launcher it did a 3GB update but when I tryed entering EQ2 after the update completed I kept getting the message "Login Rejected" Clients Version does not mach the servers." so I uninstalled JUST the sation launcher, re-downloaded and re-installed. Now when I attempt to login Station Launcher is insisting I install the EQ2 Trial. I do not need the trial I already have the game installed eek Anyone know if I need to completely uninstall Eq2 then do a full re-install just to use the F2P??

Remove the game completely, and get the new installer here: http://www.everquest2.com/ by pressing the Play Now green big button.

This will install the streaming client which is takes about...4-5 minutes to get ready and you'r all set to go.
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2011, 06:18:27 AM »

I'm kind of getting bummed out on Timorous Deep. I'm close level 18 and close to finishing everything, but my recent 2 quests (might even be my last 2) in Mok Rent are proving to be too much. Im getting pwn'd badly in one by a gang and continually dieing in another with my foe having only a sliver of life left.  frown  Up until this point I really haven't had any problems soloing any of the quests. Meanwhile I've struck out trying to get any other players to group with me - surprisingly aloof players considering its the Antonia Bayle RP server.  icon_confused  It all adds up to me being about ready to throw in the towel and sign on with the Freeport Emisary.

For those who've played this, or any such areas before - If I sign on with the Freeport Emissary will it prevent me from completing my Timorous Deep quests, or can I still come back to them after I've sailed to Freeport?
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2011, 07:27:37 AM »

Quote from: kronovan on December 15, 2011, 06:18:27 AM

I'm kind of getting bummed out on Timorous Deep. I'm close level 18 and close to finishing everything, but my recent 2 quests (might even be my last 2) in Mok Rent are proving to be too much. Im getting pwn'd badly in one by a gang and continually dieing in another with my foe having only a sliver of life left.  frown  Up until this point I really haven't had any problems soloing any of the quests. Meanwhile I've struck out trying to get any other players to group with me - surprisingly aloof players considering its the Antonia Bayle RP server.  icon_confused  It all adds up to me being about ready to throw in the towel and sign on with the Freeport Emisary.

For those who've played this, or any such areas before - If I sign on with the Freeport Emissary will it prevent me from completing my Timorous Deep quests, or can I still come back to them after I've sailed to Freeport?

You should be fine.  For the most part Gorowyn and all its quests are neutral.  Any side can do them.  They may be gray to you, but you can still go back and do them.  Btw, Frostfang Sea is also neutral, in case you wanted to do those quests too.
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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2011, 08:52:37 AM »

Quote from: Cragmyre on December 15, 2011, 07:27:37 AM

Quote from: kronovan on December 15, 2011, 06:18:27 AM

I'm kind of getting bummed out on Timorous Deep. I'm close level 18 and close to finishing everything, but my recent 2 quests (might even be my last 2) in Mok Rent are proving to be too much. Im getting pwn'd badly in one by a gang and continually dieing in another with my foe having only a sliver of life left.  frown  Up until this point I really haven't had any problems soloing any of the quests. Meanwhile I've struck out trying to get any other players to group with me - surprisingly aloof players considering its the Antonia Bayle RP server.  icon_confused  It all adds up to me being about ready to throw in the towel and sign on with the Freeport Emisary.

For those who've played this, or any such areas before - If I sign on with the Freeport Emissary will it prevent me from completing my Timorous Deep quests, or can I still come back to them after I've sailed to Freeport?

You should be fine.  For the most part Gorowyn and all its quests are neutral.  Any side can do them.  They may be gray to you, but you can still go back and do them.  Btw, Frostfang Sea is also neutral, in case you wanted to do those quests too.

Thanks for the info. I managed to get over my hump by doing a bit of Spiro-killing-grinding. It actually was surprisingly quick and easy to grind to level 18, after which I was cruising along in 3rd gear again. slywink I'm keen to get to Freeport since it sounds to be the bastion of evil, but out of curiosity where is the Frostfang sea in relation to Gorowyn? Or more specifically, how do you access the quests there?

[Edit] Something I learned today is that anyone whoever played previously (even f2p players) is automatically at silver level. My previous EQ2 play amounted to creating an acccount and dloading and installing the free client -I swear I didn't even create a toon- yet I'm a silver level account. With saving that $5 I'm now going to buy a race pack and the Fury class.
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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2011, 03:06:02 PM »

Getting to any of the other islands is pretty easy now.  Just get to a dock and click on the globe, you can then travel to any other area that has a dock.  The other two ways to travel are to use the druid rings or wizard spires.  You'll find them soon enough slywink

As for Frostfang Sea it is one of the starting areas, for the Goodies/Neutrals, surrounding New Halas.  It is like Gorowyn where you can level from 1 to 20 before heading to ButcherBlock.
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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2011, 03:30:11 PM »

Quote from: Cragmyre on December 15, 2011, 03:06:02 PM

As for Frostfang Sea it is one of the starting areas, for the Goodies/Neutrals, surrounding New Halas.  It is like Gorowyn where you can level from 1 to 20 before heading to ButcherBlock.

I haven't noticed a globe on the Gorowyn dock; could I have been than unobservant? Probably.  icon_confused If I go to New Halas after reaching lvl 20 will there actually be quests at my level?
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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2011, 05:51:24 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on December 15, 2011, 03:30:11 PM

Quote from: Cragmyre on December 15, 2011, 03:06:02 PM

As for Frostfang Sea it is one of the starting areas, for the Goodies/Neutrals, surrounding New Halas.  It is like Gorowyn where you can level from 1 to 20 before heading to ButcherBlock.

I haven't noticed a globe on the Gorowyn dock; could I have been than unobservant? Probably.  icon_confused If I go to New Halas after reaching lvl 20 will there actually be quests at my level?

The globe is not far from the griffon that sits out front on the dock.  It has a blue aura around it if I remember correctly smile

As for New Halas, there may be some stuff, definitely some crafting quests, but the Frostfang questline sends you to Butcherblock just like the Timorous Deep questline will.
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2011, 04:34:28 AM »

You were right Cragmyre about the Butcher Block quest - once I completed the final war quest in Timorous Deep I got sent to a NPC on the Gorowyn docks who requested I go to Faydwer. Another question oh sage Cragmyre smile  I'm really interested in a Fury class, but want to play it with an evil race. Of all of the evil races, which is the best suited to a healer class like the Fury?

A heads up for anyone interested in resubbing to gold or enhancing a silver account with purchases. Tomorrow December 17th, and tomorrow only, all Station Cash purchases made from within the game will be tripled.

It just doesn't get any better; 1st I got silver for free without having really ever played the game, and now I'm going to get a new class and 3 race pack for a miniscule $5! Sony's certainly making it cheap and easy for me to enjoy this game. slywink
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2011, 02:58:00 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on December 17, 2011, 04:34:28 AM

You were right Cragmyre about the Butcher Block quest - once I completed the final war quest in Timorous Deep I got sent to a NPC on the Gorowyn docks who requested I go to Faydwer. Another question oh sage Cragmyre smile  I'm really interested in a Fury class, but want to play it with an evil race. Of all of the evil races, which is the best suited to a healer class like the Fury?

My Iksar is a Fury and resides in Qeynos. It seems fitting somehow.

And definitely take advantage of the triple Station Cash promotion. You can even buy expansions via it, so think of it as you getting them for 66% off.
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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2011, 05:24:09 PM »

A heads up on taking advantage of the 3x SC offer - it does not work if you use your Steam wallet. I bought some SC with $5 from my Steam wallet, and although the initial screens clearly detailed I was getting 1500 SC my balance only ended up being 500.  icon_mad  Hopefully Sony will fix this, but based on their recent history I'm not holding my breath. I'm still petitioning and bug reporting on it though.
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