A Cataclysm coming to WoW: the Zandalari are Rising!

[CeeKay]

maybe the next expansion pack?  or maybe they're just going to give players instant access to every single thing people have worked hard for over the years, just to watch the hardcore players melt down  

[PR_GMR]

Considering that The Great Sundering is also known as the Cataclysm, and there's even Cataclysm armor in the game... yeah, I'll say it's the next WoW expansion.

[CeeKay]

Considering that The Great Sundering is also known as the Cataclysm, and there's even Cataclysm armor in the game... yeah, I'll say it's the next WoW expansion.

I looked that up, and it really reminds me of Dragonlance.

[Blackadar]

I predicted earlier that the next expansion would take place in the Malestrom.  It makes perfect sense.  First, it takes place back in Azeroth, which has become a bit abandoned since the 1st expansion.  Queen Azshara is one of the most powerful figures in WoW lore (perhaps the most powerful mage ever), so she'd make a good boss.  For mounts, you'd have swimming mounts (and swimming skill).  Nazjatar is the naga city and would make a setting for quests since many have been held in the countryside.  Illidan could also come back into the story since that's also his origin.

Sweet!

[Toe]

I just pray its not an underwater zone. God how I hate those. Swimming sucks. Managing water-breathing sucks. Fighting under water sucks.

[Blackadar]

I just pray its not an underwater zone. God how I hate those. Swimming sucks. Managing water-breathing sucks. Fighting under water sucks.

I think they'll find a way around much of that.  I imagine swimming will come into play, but not in every place and swimming mounts will help.  Breathing underwater will be made easier - heck, virtually every quest in WotLK gave you some breathing underwater item. 

[Jag]

I just pray its not an underwater zone. God how I hate those. Swimming sucks. Managing water-breathing sucks. Fighting under water sucks.

Maybe a swimming mount that lets you breathe under water. I think a swimming raid fight would be interesting considering it's never been done. The closest thing I guess was Kael which had flying elements to the fight that felt like swimming.

There is alot they could do with the Maelstrom, lost islands, races, the Sundering, etc.

[PR_GMR]

I predicted earlier that the next expansion would take place in the Malestrom.  It makes perfect sense.  First, it takes place back in Azeroth, which has become a bit abandoned since the 1st expansion.  Queen Azshara is one of the most powerful figures in WoW lore (perhaps the most powerful mage ever), so she'd make a good boss.  For mounts, you'd have swimming mounts (and swimming skill).  Nazjatar is the naga city and would make a setting for quests since many have been held in the countryside.  Illidan could also come back into the story since that's also his origin.

Sweet!

I'm too hoping that it's going to be in the Maelstrom, and focused on underwater gameplay. Never seen that in an MMO before and know Blizzard would do a fantastic job with it.

[Destructor]

I'm too hoping that it's going to be in the Maelstrom, and focused on underwater gameplay. Never seen that in an MMO before and know Blizzard would do a fantastic job with it.

I know that the original Everquest had an underwater zone (and it was a raid zone too - or at least a full group one). It didn't work that well though from what I remember, as mobs had serious pathfinding issues, and the aggro range was just nuts when in a fully 3D space. Plus, drowning sucked (as there were no permanent items out there - only spells or items that would last for so long).

[Toe]

I'm too hoping that it's going to be in the Maelstrom, and focused on underwater gameplay. Never seen that in an MMO before and know Blizzard would do a fantastic job with it.

I know that the original Everquest had an underwater zone (and it was a raid zone too - or at least a full group one). It didn't work that well though from what I remember, as mobs had serious pathfinding issues, and the aggro range was just nuts when in a fully 3D space. Plus, drowning sucked (as there were no permanent items out there - only spells or items that would last for so long).

Yeah, it was Kedge Keep maybe? God it was horrible. Another MMO that gave it a shot was DaoC in their Trials of Atlantis expansion. Again, it was horrible. Besides the slow movement (which is not fun in the least) there were things like limited view distances, horrible sound effects (the constant swish-swish of swimming combined with the muffled effect to simulate water). 

Trust me, underwater adventuring sucks. You might think it would be fun but trust me, it will be horrible and boring.

[Alefroth]

I predicted earlier that the next expansion would take place in the Malestrom.  It makes perfect sense.  First, it takes place back in Azeroth, which has become a bit abandoned since the 1st expansion.  Queen Azshara is one of the most powerful figures in WoW lore (perhaps the most powerful mage ever), so she'd make a good boss.  For mounts, you'd have swimming mounts (and swimming skill).  Nazjatar is the naga city and would make a setting for quests since many have been held in the countryside.  Illidan could also come back into the story since that's also his origin.

Sweet!

The second expansion went back to Azeroth.

Ale

[CeeKay]

new races?

[Blackadar]

I predicted earlier that the next expansion would take place in the Malestrom.  It makes perfect sense.  First, it takes place back in Azeroth, which has become a bit abandoned since the 1st expansion.  Queen Azshara is one of the most powerful figures in WoW lore (perhaps the most powerful mage ever), so she'd make a good boss.  For mounts, you'd have swimming mounts (and swimming skill).  Nazjatar is the naga city and would make a setting for quests since many have been held in the countryside.  Illidan could also come back into the story since that's also his origin.

Sweet!

The second expansion went back to Azeroth.

Ale

True, you literalist scum.     But Northrend is so far removed from any of the original game that it feels as isolated as Outland.  To clarify what I meant to say is hopefully the next expansion returns the player base to the core starting areas so that they're repopulated again. 

[Destructor]

new races?

Huh.

[Blackjack]

What does Homeworld have to do with WoW? I'm so confused. 

[Harkonis]

where is homeworld mentioned?

[CeeKay]

where is homeworld mentioned?

he's referring to the game Homeworld Cataclysm..

[Harkonis]

oh, I see.  So it's the humorless version of a joke.  my bad

[Mithridates]

oh, I see.  So it's the humorless version of a joke.  my bad

Damn that's cold.

[CeeKay]

oh, I see.  So it's the humorless version of a joke.  my bad

sorry, I mistook you for Lettuce.

[CeeKay]

a buttload of pics, concept art and wallpapers.  the beach one is my new desktop.

[Blackadar]

a buttload of pics, concept art and wallpapers.  the beach one is my new desktop.

How about putting a link in that URL?

[CeeKay]

a buttload of pics, concept art and wallpapers.  the beach one is my new desktop.

How about putting a link in that URL?

ok, not sure how it copied the http: and nothing else 

[Isgrimnur]

Don't forget the extra slash...

[CeeKay]

I hear this will be one of the new mounts:

Spoiler for Hiden:

[Laner]

speaking of unfunny...

[CeeKay]

didn't see these posted here, here's a bunch of videos from Blizzcon.

[Blackadar]

I hear this will be one of the new mounts:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Er...that tag looks empty and the link goes to a 404.

[CeeKay]

I hear this will be one of the new mounts:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Er...that tag looks empty and the link goes to a 404.

yeah, I think they changed it since September.

[edit] I forgot, they actually changed the site address not too long ago, here you go:

[CeeKay]

for those drooling in anticipation, Amazon has started taking pre-orders (should be a support GT link) 

[Misguided]

 Heh, I just set foot in Northrend for the first time yesterday.

[Gryndyl]

Heh, I just set foot in Northrend for the first time yesterday.

Enjoy! I first set foot in it about two weeks ago and have been very happy with the ditrection that they took as far as getting some more interesting quests into the game than "kill 10x" and "bring me 5 livers". There's still stuff along that lines but usually with an interesting twist and then there's quite a lot of stuff that, as far as MMO's go, is pretty novel.

I've ridden a dragon into a dragon battle, gone undercover as a murloc, bombed pirate ships from a zeppelin, fended off pursuers in a horseback chase with molotov cocktails and distilled tropical fruit into moonshine. Quite a lot of fun and laughs in Northrend.

[CeeKay]

on system and stat changes.

[ericb]

Heh, I just set foot in Northrend for the first time yesterday.

Enjoy! I first set foot in it about two weeks ago and have been very happy with the ditrection that they took as far as getting some more interesting quests into the game than "kill 10x" and "bring me 5 livers". There's still stuff along that lines but usually with an interesting twist and then there's quite a lot of stuff that, as far as MMO's go, is pretty novel.

I've ridden a dragon into a dragon battle, gone undercover as a murloc, bombed pirate ships from a zeppelin, fended off pursuers in a horseback chase with molotov cocktails and distilled tropical fruit into moonshine. Quite a lot of fun and laughs in Northrend.

The Northrend quests are so much better than the BC quests there really isn't much of a comparison.  All of the new areas also got a huge graphical upgrade compared to the original lands so it's much nicer looking as well.

[emptyw3lls]

This is madness.  THIS IS NORTHREND!

[Soulchilde]

I wouldn't mind playing WoW again, but like all MMORPG it would need to be in a group.  I dislike soloing

[MaxSteele]

I wouldn't mind playing WoW again, but like all MMORPG it would need to be in a group.  I dislike soloing

With the latest update (in December), there is inter-server matchups for all of the dungeons.  You don't have to worry about soloing ever again, because there are always people to group with.

[Wargus]

I wouldn't mind playing WoW again, but like all MMORPG it would need to be in a group.  I dislike soloing

With the latest update (in December), there is inter-server matchups for all of the dungeons.  You don't have to worry about soloing ever again, because there are always people to group with.

I've been playing wow with a friend, have a priest up to 40. I also have a hunter to 21.  The dungeon finder is pretty nice, however it takes out the 'adventure' from the game.  For me thats fine, I've played the low level stuff before & want to try the end game. 

Now, that said this takes pugs to a whole new level.  If you are a tank or healer (and are decent) then you know you'll at least have a decent tank or healer.  The opposite class player will invariably suck 80% of the time.  Half of that time he (or she) will be so bad you can't continue the dungeon.  If you play a DPS class, jack this to 90% because you'll have both a tank and a healer who suck.  Add into this that many of these people don't speak English and you take PUGs to a whole new level.

If you do this you'll want a group still to offset this. If there are two of you, one needs to be a tank the other a healer.

[Jaddison]

You remind me of some of my funniest moments in WoW.  Being a pug for that instance off of the Crossroads and having a lower level rogue who begged to come and then just ran and attacked things with no notice.  Not only did he aggro at long range but he banzai'ed everything that moved....for about 7 times in a row even though we were all telling him what he should not be doing.  I think i was a druid and he was incensed that I could not rez him on demand.

[Soulchilde]

I wouldn't mind playing WoW again, but like all MMORPG it would need to be in a group.  I dislike soloing

With the latest update (in December), there is inter-server matchups for all of the dungeons.  You don't have to worry about soloing ever again, because there are always people to group with.

Oh you misunderstand.  I like being on Vent with others to play. Sadly, the Wanderers decided to play EQ2 which I have no interest in playing