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« on: March 13, 2009, 07:53:21 PM »

Hi all,

we've talked briefly about doing a mining op tomorow in the corporation, and for people who are interested in this.

Now, I'm pretty damn new at EVE, only played briefly a few years ago, so bear with me if what I say is complete nonsense...like usually ;-)

Anyways, I just thought it would be a fun excersise, and a way to make us all some money! Now, Burke wrote me, thats its customary to give all people a share of the money income, and eh...I was thinking more of doing a full share to everyone, but then again, we havent really had any talks about this, also because the Corp is pretty casual, it was just for kicks, and the monies!

Anyways, I'd love some input on this, also, if there are more fun and lucrative stuff to do together than this, even with a lot of us being newbies and in shiny new frigates and all ;-)

So, discuss please! Other things to do, corp stuff, director roles to be divided, what you'd love to do and all that stuff!
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2009, 07:54:50 PM »

oh, and of course, its free for all whether you want to participate or not - its just for fun!! :-D
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2009, 08:22:19 PM »

I'd normally be up for something like that, but I don't think I'll have the time for it this weekend.

I do have some kind of large mining barge or something on one of my chars that the corp is welcome to. It might be a piece of crap for all I know, though.  icon_lol
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 08:26:22 PM »

No mining barge is a piece of crap, LSS!  I'm sure someone with sufficient skills could make great use of it.

I will be well up for a mining op tomorrow evening.  As boring as they sound, I have always found them actually to be pretty fun.  It's a nice way to spend an hour or two, chatting with corpmates, pissing about, fighting off rats, running away from pirate gangs, and maybe even shooting some rocks!  If we're going to divvy up roles, I would be happy to mine, haul or fly escort.  Doesn't make any difference to me.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2009, 08:48:49 PM »

I'd be happy to bring my Amarr cruiser and help defend the miners from the rats. I've got a little isk, so you guys can keep the profits. I agree with Huw, it'd be great to just get a bunch of us in one place, and maybe even run some missions.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2009, 08:55:46 PM »

It might be a Procurer...maybe. slywink I'll log in when I get home tonight and find out. If it is, someone can have it (although I would have to figure out how to give it to someone  icon_lol)

I do have a Procurer and a Hoarder if anyone is interested in them...free, of course.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2009, 10:44:47 PM »

Dammit!  I have to be out of town tomorrow.  I'll be in for a Sunday night op if there's interest but no way I can make tomorrow night now.  Sorry guys. frown
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2009, 10:53:21 PM »

I don't have mining as a skill, nor a mining beam equipped on any of my ships...but I have guns! I could fly security and keep the rats away.  ninja2
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2009, 11:21:30 PM »

 Let my know when and where and I'll sent my hulk pilot over for awhile. He is a mining foreman as well.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2009, 11:21:50 PM »

Best I have is a Retriever. I'm flying it over to Gallente space this evening. Then I'll go back for my badger for light hauling duty.

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2009, 10:59:12 AM »

Right, I'm out until tomorrow evening.  Have a good op guys, hope you have fun!  Keep those rats away from the miners!
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2009, 08:25:16 PM »

So how did the op go?
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 04:20:45 PM »

Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 15, 2009, 08:25:16 PM

So how did the op go?

it didnt, unfortunately

As we discussed in.game, it will take place again tomorrow, Tuesday... Im ready at about 8 pm GMT+1
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 05:19:20 PM »

Tuesdays and Thursdays I will probably get online late so I may have to join you when the op is already underway.  I'll contact you in game to find out which roles need to be filled.
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 06:11:29 PM »

If you mine in a 1.0 or 0.9 security status system you won't have to worry about pirates.  Most of those asteroid belts get picked clean by the bots twice a week, however.  You'll have more fun in a 0.5-0.8 system where pirates can spawn.  I don't think you would have to worry about pirate gangs in high-sec areas.  Just find a low population system and there should be plenty to mine. 

Mining ops are even more fun in a low-sec system  icon_twisted
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 11:31:07 PM »

I'd be interested in a mining op, but I live in GMT-4 so it would be 11pm Razgon time when I get home.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 11:33:12 PM »

Quote from: Koz on March 16, 2009, 11:31:07 PM

I'd be interested in a mining op, but I live in GMT-4 so it would be 11pm Razgon time when I get home.

My GF says I can stay up late once in a while ;-)
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2009, 12:06:27 AM »

I'll see if I can pop by for a while. I can fly either my retriever and mine, my badger and haul, or a cruiser/destroyer for cover if needed.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2009, 12:17:29 AM »

I would think that using your Retriever would be by far the biggest help to us. smile
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2009, 12:37:18 AM »

Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 17, 2009, 12:17:29 AM

I would think that using your Retriever would be by far the biggest help to us. smile

Aye...I'll be more than happy to bring the guns. smile

I'm gonna take a bit of time later tonight to scout out some nearby low(er)-sec systems to see if I can find us somewhere nice to set up shop for the night. My only suggestion is to find a system with a station that we could refine at, it'll save our haulers a ton of time when we start picking up cans. Or perhaps an additional corp office could be in order.

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2009, 04:01:24 AM »

Alrighty...just returned from my scouting mission and I think I gathered some useful info.  ninja


I found a .6 system five small jumps from HQ. There are seven stations in the system. There are 10 asteroid belts in the system. Most of the belts are in good physical shape, but they have various amounts of secure cans floating. That said, maybe two belts in had anyone in them...most were completely unoccupied. Then one belt was completely untouched, no cans at all, and the rocks looked in great form. The rocks were various types..some Jasper, Obmer, Kernite, decent amounts of better quality ones too...silvery, dense, etc. I think this may be 'The One' for us at this point.

Security will be a must though, groups of three rat frigates at a time with ECM, and at decently close intervals. As I said, I'd more than happy to bring guns..and if others want to do the same, we could always patrol around the belts killing as we go but with a ear out for calls from our miners. Decent bounty and loot to go around.

Personally I think we may want to set up an office here. One station had 2 offices still open for rent. Along with the basic services including a refinery, repairshop, blah blah blah...it had a science and industry lab. This may be great for any production and selling, as the system is also a gateway system into low-sec. IIRC, it's surrounded by another .6 (towards the HQ), then .5s and lower on the other side from HQ, so there would be no issues getting to it from HQ. I'm more than willing to go back out there and put up the cash for the first months rent on an office..just need the permission from the boss.

System = Stacmon
Station = Stacmon VII - Moon 1 - Impro
Belts = IX Belt 3  (untouched, no cans!)
          X Belt 1 (good rocks, some cans)
          IX Belt 2 (all different types of Velspar)
          VII Belt 2 (good rocks, some cans)

Anyways...there's my report.  nod


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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2009, 05:49:26 AM »

Booner found the same system I did.  icon_smile

I've been mining in the system one closer to HQ - Aidart. The only reason I've been in Aidart was a couple days ago when I scouted through Stacmon, it was sucked dry of every roid. Literally nothing was left. I ratted a bit and went back to Aidart. Looks like I just picked a bad day pass though. If it has Kernite, I'm sold, because it beats Omber by a fair degree for what it refines into.

I'd vote for an office out that way. To be cautious, lets go a week to make sure some big corp doesn't vacuum it every day but Monday.  icon_wink

By the by, my Retriever's 5 drones can handle 0.6 rats in a pinch.
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2009, 07:01:06 AM »

sounds perfect, Booner and Barrakketh!!

I agree with the sentiment, that we wait a bit, before setting up office there as well, but then again, do some corp regularely strip-mine areas?

But, it sounds perfect, actually! Also, its close to dangerous space, which I know some people are itching to begin digging in to!

One thing though, is it closer to the "middle" than our current HQ? At some point at least, we'll need to set up shop somewhere a bit out of the way, but still close to all 4 races starting points, to make acces easier. Thats my two cents, anyways!
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2009, 08:06:28 AM »

Wow, great job guys!  Stacmon sounds like it has it all.  If anyone goes there any time today would you please check the factory slots?  It doesn't matter if they're always all full as long as the queues aren't too long.
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2009, 12:17:33 PM »

Quote from: Barrakketh on March 17, 2009, 05:49:26 AM

Booner found the same system I did.  icon_smile

I've been mining in the system one closer to HQ - Aidart. The only reason I've been in Aidart was a couple days ago when I scouted through Stacmon, it was sucked dry of every roid. Literally nothing was left. I ratted a bit and went back to Aidart. Looks like I just picked a bad day pass though. If it has Kernite, I'm sold, because it beats Omber by a fair degree for what it refines into.

I'd vote for an office out that way. To be cautious, lets go a week to make sure some big corp doesn't vacuum it every day but Monday.  icon_wink

By the by, my Retriever's 5 drones can handle 0.6 rats in a pinch.

I'd scouted Aidart too, but the only station in the system lacked good facilities. Yet the belts were in similar shape to Stacmons. Now I would just switch my overview to 'mining' and take a quick glance at what came up...I noted a bit of Kernite scattered about, not much at all though. Omber seemed the most common of the "rarer" rocks.

Quote from: Razgon on March 17, 2009, 07:01:06 AM

sounds perfect, Booner and Barrakketh!!

I agree with the sentiment, that we wait a bit, before setting up office there as well, but then again, do some corp regularely strip-mine areas?

But, it sounds perfect, actually! Also, its close to dangerous space, which I know some people are itching to begin digging in to!

One thing though, is it closer to the "middle" than our current HQ? At some point at least, we'll need to set up shop somewhere a bit out of the way, but still close to all 4 races starting points, to make acces easier. Thats my two cents, anyways!

Yeah some corps strip mine the hell out of belts...it can be pretty impressive when coming into a belt and seeing a few mining barges blasting away.

When I was scouting those systems last night I was chatting with Skylander about mining etiquette..asking if there were any unwritten rules when it comes to setting up shop somewhere that already had secure cans floating, and he gave me the perfect answer...."approach Eve as if it has no rules"...and he's flat right. Not saying that we go out with the intention of pissing anyone off, but if we pull up to a belt with cans and no-one is working it...go ahead and set up shop. What's going to happen? It's not as if we're going to pull into a system and strip it down in an evening, I doubt we could barely dent a belt at this point.

Regarding another office...this system would be further out than HQ, it's on the border of high-sec/low-sec. The only reason I suggested another office is for efficiency...with the size of our transports, someone will have to spend the entire Op shuttling ore from the belt to HQ...10 jump round trips. Not to be a naysayer, but with a handful of miners, I'm not sure the transport will be able to keep pace. And think of it long term...even if the office is 2 mil a month, a single Op will net us assets worth far more than that and still leave plenty for any production.

And as I said, I'll even pay for this first months rent, It'll be a big fat donation. If the system doesn't pan out...the Corp loses nothing, and we shut the office down. slywink
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2009, 12:31:43 PM »

For what it's worth, I agree with Booner that we could use an office there.  He's absolutely right about the mining ops; a couple of Iterons or whatever will not suffice if they're having to make 10-jump trips and the ISK we make from group mining will easily pay for the rental each month.
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2009, 01:18:27 PM »

Damn, I wish I didn't have darts tonight! I'd be glad to fly escort or even log on with my guy who can fly the Hoarder.

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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2009, 01:28:24 PM »

Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 17, 2009, 08:06:28 AM

If anyone goes there any time today would you please check the factory slots?  It doesn't matter if they're always all full as long as the queues aren't too long.

Just pulled in to the station, 12 open,...there is also another station in system with 15 manufacturing slots open.
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2009, 01:39:14 PM »

Cool, thanks Booner.  It sounds like the perfect system for a more permanent corp home.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2009, 02:10:48 PM »

Ok, I'm sold...sounds like a great plan with the office!

Make it so ;-)
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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2009, 02:14:38 PM »

Hang on - is there any reason we don't just move the HQ there?
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2009, 02:16:07 PM »

Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 17, 2009, 02:14:38 PM

Hang on - is there any reason we don't just move the HQ there?

heh - eh...not really :-D I'm fine with that - gotta move a hellofa lot of stuff though, but thats just logistics

edit: oh, and the HQ itself doesnt cost anything, just the office does.
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2009, 02:20:09 PM »

Why have an office and an HQ there?  Do we only get a corp hangar with an office?
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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2009, 02:22:12 PM »

Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 17, 2009, 02:20:09 PM

Why have an office and an HQ there?  Do we only get a corp hangar with an office?

The HQ only offers the recruitment services, as far I understand. The "Office" is the part that has Hangar space. Thus, moving the HQ doesnt do anything, other than giving us another place for the recruitment part.
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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2009, 02:22:31 PM »

Hang loose guys....I'm on auto pilot scouting some other nearby systems to see if there may be an even better system.

I'd scouted Stacmon again this morning after checking on the manufacturing options...the belts there and in the 1 jump systems had been semi-trashed. Still workable for a corp our size...but I might can find something better. I'll post something once I get though the next group of systems.
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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2009, 02:25:07 PM »

OK, thanks Booner.  Raz, no point in moving the HQ just yet then after all! smile
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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2009, 04:12:42 PM »

*Alarm!!!*

Alrighty...heads up!!

I've rented an office off the beaten path in a .6 system called Amygnon, 5 jumps from HQ. There are 5 stations here, but our new office is in the X-Sence Reprocessing Facility and the monthly bill is......40,435 whopping ISK a month. eek

It currently has 42 manufacturing slots open and 9 belts that are damn near untouched. This could be a great mining paradise. smile
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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2009, 04:42:18 PM »

Very cool, Booner! I can't wait to head out that way.
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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2009, 05:40:48 PM »

The downside of the X-SENSE station is that it's base refining rate is 40% instead of 50%. I get 86% there instead of 96%. The good news is that the Garoun Bank station that is orbiting the same moon gives 50% base, so I can refine there. Alas, the Garoun station has no production facilities, or we could just move the office.
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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2009, 05:54:13 PM »

Well, either way we're going to be shuttling minerals between both stations so I suppose it doesn't really matter.

Anyway, if there are no objections I'd like to propose Amygnon for the mining op tonight.  Whoever begins the op, please form a gang for it.  As people join please ask the gang what roles need filling at that time.  Above all else, have fun!

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