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« on: October 17, 2005, 06:31:46 PM »

Ok, kind of in line with the thread I just posted about increasing computer speed, I have been thinking about upgrading some part of my system to make it run a bit faster for gaming. I recently got a Dell Widescreen monitor, and in its native 1650x1080 resolution some games have serious issues running smoothly. So, I am pondering upgrading the rig a tad. Let me list my specs:

AMD Athlon 64 [email protected]
1 GB Corsair PC3500 DDRAM
2 WDHDD of varying sizes, 8MB cache special editions
1 MSI Neo motherboard with PCI/E
Nvidia GeForce6600GT
Windows XP Professional SP/2
SB Live Gamer.

So, what do you all think would be the single most cost efficient upgrade I could make purely for gaming? Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2005, 06:40:17 PM »

Well, easiest two are:

1. RAM - to 2 GB
2. Video Card. One of those new-fangled 7800s or some such

I suspect those two upgrades would tide you a bit...
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2005, 06:59:47 PM »

And of those two, probably the vid card upgrade would do you the most good.  I don't know how many games are really going to put 2GB of RAM to use now, but it could certainly help.  I just orderered a bunch of parts for a new system and I'm going 2GB out of the box.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2005, 07:23:13 PM »

Video card.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2005, 07:47:03 PM »

Okies then, what is the most cost efficient video card upgrade from what I have then?
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2005, 08:49:43 PM »

You already have the cost effective one installed. Options would be:

Add another 6600 GT if you have an SLi board
Upgrade to a 6800 GT or two if you have SLi
The 7800 series are the most expensive, but the best on the market right now.

Also, some games may not scale correctly when using that resolution.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2005, 05:04:07 AM »

To hop onto this thread instead of starting another, i have the same question......and here is my specs

Athlon 2400
1g pc 2700
Radeon 9700XP
Windows XP SP2

I was thinking the video card too, is that the best advice?  I havent kept up with the latest cards in a while, whats a good deal for an upgrade that won't give my wife a heart attack?
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2005, 03:33:56 PM »

Xmann - I'd say definitely video card.  How strong is your wife's heart?  Tongue  I'd try for a 6800GT, or even a 6800 or 6600GT if the budget is tighter.   A quick look on newegg showed that the AGP versions of the 6800GT seem to be disappearing in favor of PCI-e, but I would think there are still some AGP stock to be found.

If you think you might do a full upgrade relatively soon (like a new mobo with PCI-e, etc), then you may not want to spend too much on a new AGP card right now.  In that case, I'd think the relatively cheap but very good 6600GT would tide you over until then.
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2005, 03:42:11 PM »

Well i wont be able to do a full upgrade until i get out of school next December.  Just looking to do something to get me through another year.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2005, 03:03:19 PM »

So looking at NewEgg, i can get a 6600GT for about $150 and this would be a decent upgrade from what i have now?

btw i have an ATI 9600XT, not a 9700
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2005, 06:45:38 PM »

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So looking at NewEgg, i can get a 6600GT for about $150 and this would be a decent upgrade from what i have now?

btw i have an ATI 9600XT, not a 9700


Yes, it would.  I'd also check prices on the 6800 (not GT) -- I've seen them for not much more than the 6600GT and that would give you a little more boost if you can swing the difference.  But the 6600GT should be a nice upgrade for you.
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2005, 07:25:01 PM »

so the GT is the lesser card?  i was thinking the other way around, thanks
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2005, 07:47:15 PM »

How much superior to the 6800GT is the 7800? And just how good is the Radeon X800?

Man..im thinking about it.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2005, 07:52:49 PM »

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How much superior to the 6800GT is the 7800? And just how good is the Radeon X800?

Man..im thinking about it.


The 7800GT and the GTX are both better overall IIRC, if the prices are withing 50-100 I'd go with the 7800 myself. I don't know much about the x800. I think its on par with the 6800gt but not sure. Check anandtech or google for reviews etc..
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2005, 02:47:24 PM »

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so the GT is the lesser card?  i was thinking the other way around, thanks


The 6800 GT is better than the plain 6800, which is better than the 6600GT.

In general, if you play games at 1024x768 resolution with no AA or AF, all three cards will perform fairly similarly, give or take a handful of FPS.  But once you start pumping up the resolution, anti-aliasing (AA), anisotropic filtering (AF), and/or other fancy effects, then the differences between them increase (i.e. the 6800 and 6600GT will begin to take bigger FPS hits from the extra res/effects if you crank everything up).
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2005, 11:00:12 PM »

I`m running a 6800gt 256 card and I love it. I`m running a p4 3.0ghz, 1gb ddr etc. I went from a 9800pro 128mb card to this 6800gt 256 card and wow!
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2005, 01:45:54 AM »

Same here pretty much

2.6 HT P4
Kingston Hyper X 1 GB Ram 433 MHz in Dual Channel Mode
Upgraded from a 9500 Pro to a BFG 6800 GT OC

Huge difference.

6800 GT is a great card, but if you have the extra $$ and a newer MOBO with PCI-Express the 7800 is like the Corvette of cards to have.
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2005, 02:33:40 AM »

If I can find the cash, the 7800 will be what I am getting.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2005, 02:50:04 PM »

Good call... Just make sure you have a good 450W+ power supply. I'm doing the same since some of the newer games dont run too well @1680x1050 even on my 6800GT. The following is on its way:

A64 3700+ (San Diego)
DFI NF4 Infinity mobo
eVGA 7800GT CO (free copy of CoD2 if purchared befo 11/7)

I'll also be bumping the ram to 2GB after xmas.
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2005, 08:12:15 PM »

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Good call... Just make sure you have a good 450W+ power supply. I'm doing the same since some of the newer games dont run too well @1680x1050 even on my 6800GT. The following is on its way:

A64 3700+ (San Diego)
DFI NF4 Infinity mobo
eVGA 7800GT CO (free copy of CoD2 if purchared befo 11/7)

I'll also be bumping the ram to 2GB after xmas.

Nice nice nice pickup mystic. Did you get that from newegg? they had a pretty good deal on the EVGA.  I am going to play some more expensive buy in tourneys this week and try to make the cash. I have been slacking off, but normally I can make steady money online if I play with that goal in mind-so now off to the tables smile
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2005, 09:10:20 PM »

Yep, got it from newegg $369 for the 7800GT CO. Will have to fax the invoice to eVGA  to get the copy of CoD2 though....

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2005, 07:22:11 AM »

I have a BFG card. I`d personally go that route. It has a LIFETIME warranty, and when I called them for something simple...get this, they seemed to actually know what they are doing. One more fact. BFG is the Nvidia card Falcon Northwest uses. I`m assuming they do that because of the reasons listed above and because they must have less issues with them over other cards. Who know. I have one though and love it!
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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2005, 12:43:17 PM »

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I have a BFG card. I`d personally go that route. It has a LIFETIME warranty, and when I called them for something simple...get this, they seemed to actually know what they are doing. One more fact. BFG is the Nvidia card Falcon Northwest uses. I`m assuming they do that because of the reasons listed above and because they must have less issues with them over other cards. Who know. I have one though and love it!


The eVGA card I ordered has a lifetime warranty as well and thier support is great as I've had one of thier 6800GT's for over a year now.
I also believe the eVGA 7800 GT CO is clocked at 470Mhz/1100Mhz which is higher than the BFG.


-Tony
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2005, 10:13:48 PM »

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Quote from: "Harpua3"
I have a BFG card. I`d personally go that route. It has a LIFETIME warranty, and when I called them for something simple...get this, they seemed to actually know what they are doing. One more fact. BFG is the Nvidia card Falcon Northwest uses. I`m assuming they do that because of the reasons listed above and because they must have less issues with them over other cards. Who know. I have one though and love it!


The eVGA card I ordered has a lifetime warranty as well and thier support is great as I've had one of thier 6800GT's for over a year now.
I also believe the eVGA 7800 GT CO is clocked at 470Mhz/1100Mhz which is higher than the BFG.


-Tony


 I have heard good things about those cards too. I`m not sure about the clock speeds on those ones specifically but...BFG overclocks theirs cards right out of the box. I wasn`t aware that eVGA did the same, but I never really looked into it :wink: .
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