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« on: June 19, 2012, 01:28:06 PM »

So long story short, the company I work for was bought by IBM, and as such we were given new laptops that are locked down tighter than Alcatraz.  I travel quite a few weeks of the year and as such I have been looking for a lightweight laptop to carry along with my ridiculously heavy Lenovo work laptop, so as to be able to do some gaming and what not in my downtime when I am out of town.  The cost is ridiculously high on the Macbook Pro, but the retina display is just gorgeous, battery life on the Macbook is insane compared to the 90 minutes I get on my Lenovo, and the thing weighs next to nothing.

I am a staunch Windows believer, but after working with quite a few Mac users in the office, and seeing how easy to use and stable the machines are I am beginning to wonder if it isn't time for me to give Mac a try.
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 01:38:02 PM »

They are sexy machines. If you're going to buy something and are willing to drop the cash, do it.

I decided to wait-n-see for the Windows tablet PCs, as well as the Windows 8 laptops. There's too much that I do in Windows that I don't want to relearn in Mac. I also hate, hate, hate the silvering and the three colored bubble interface.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 01:48:42 PM »

If you are scared, just buy a copy of Parallels and keep a Windows VM available just in case you need it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 01:58:01 PM »

You can not upgrade anything after you buy it. The RAM is soldiered in place and the SSD is proprietary. The batteries are not replaceable.

http://ifixit.org/2763/the-new-macbook-pro-unfixable-unhackable-untenable/

That said, you can just use bootcamp to install Windows 7. Then you can shrink the MacOSX partition to it's smallest size and boot into Windows 7 at all times. I'm fairly certain once you get Windows 7 installed you can actually remove OSX entirely.

There's nothing that says because you have Mac hardware you must use MacOSX...
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 02:35:18 PM »

Why would you want to change something that's perfect? slywink
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 02:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on June 19, 2012, 02:35:18 PM

Why would you want to change something that's perfect? slywink

At least until next year, when it becomes more perfect.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 03:21:12 PM »

LOL yeah perfect is temporary. But you sacrifice upgradability for form factor in the MBP Retina. It's a sacrifice I'd gladly make, but others might not.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 08:59:50 PM »

Quote from: Calavera on June 19, 2012, 01:58:01 PM

You can not upgrade anything after you buy it. The RAM is soldiered in place and the SSD is proprietary. The batteries are not replaceable.

http://ifixit.org/2763/the-new-macbook-pro-unfixable-unhackable-untenable/

That said, you can just use bootcamp to install Windows 7. Then you can shrink the MacOSX partition to it's smallest size and boot into Windows 7 at all times. I'm fairly certain once you get Windows 7 installed you can actually remove OSX entirely.

There's nothing that says because you have Mac hardware you must use MacOSX...

Based on my experience, you lose major battery life using Windows on a MBP.  The MBP has two "video cards" in it: the high-wattage third-party card (Nvidia or ATI, depending on your model) and the low-wattage Intel built into the CPU.  OSX will intelligently use the Intel video for all your usual desktop 2D needs and only kick in the third-party card when needed for games and such, saving you a lot of battery life.  However, either through the fault of Windows itself or the Bootcamp drivers created by Apple, the Windows side only uses the third-party card and will drain your battery much faster than OSX.

I have a mid-2010 MBP and I do use Bootcamp for a Win7 install, but I tend to keep the power cord handy if I need to be in there for a lengthy period of time (usually gaming).  When I first got the thing I expected to be in Windows all the time, but after seeing the battery issues I started getting more familiar with the OSX side and I've been pleased with it.  The touchpad also works better on the OSX side (it can be kind of jumpy in Windows).
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 11:14:10 PM »

Quote from: Biyobi on June 20, 2012, 08:59:50 PM

Based on my experience, you lose major battery life using Windows on a MBP.  The MBP has two "video cards" in it: the high-wattage third-party card (Nvidia or ATI, depending on your model) and the low-wattage Intel built into the CPU.  OSX will intelligently use the Intel video for all your usual desktop 2D needs and only kick in the third-party card when needed for games and such, saving you a lot of battery life.  However, either through the fault of Windows itself or the Bootcamp drivers created by Apple, the Windows side only uses the third-party card and will drain your battery much faster than OSX.

Apple intentionally hides the integrated Intel card if you use Windows. The "PC" version is called Optimus and Hybrid Graphics.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2012, 08:22:56 PM »

I got an Apple machine because no one at work was an Apple user and I figured I could justify it that way.  I came to really like a lot of the OS.  That said I have a lot of computers, so it doesn't limit me in any way.  This was 4 years ago and I did get a fair bit of work value and kudos out of knowing how OSX works.

I use the Apple as my personal notebook and photography system.  So it gets a blend of high end photo apps and general web surfing.  My desktop rig is almost all games and doesn't even really have personal data on it.  As my old MBP was getting old and not able to keep up with the photo apps I was going to move to a cheaper iMac and keep the MBP around as my personal notebook, but then Apple had to go and refresh the MBP line and not the iMac line.  Now I am typing this on my shiny new rMPB.  I have to say running Aperture at 2880x1800 is amazing.
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