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« on: March 16, 2012, 12:10:46 PM »

I have a desktop PC, a late 2010 Macbook Air (11 inch), and a Droid Thunderbolt phone.  I was looking into getting an iPad 2 to use for work and play; I'm a 5th grade teacher and I thought the iPad 2 would come in handy as a grade-book, a camera for photographing student work and then showing it to parents during conferences, and other uses.  But those reasons alone are not worth $400 or more.  I watch movies and read Kindle books on my MBA or phone, and I have both for simpler games and music (although I recently got System Shock 2 running on my MBA!).

I figure between the phone and MBA I have everything covered that an iPad2 could do.  What might I be missing out on?  Is it worth it?  (I just sold some guitar stuff on eBay, so I have about $400 to buy the 16gig new or 32gig used from eBay (would only buy one with the 1 year plan still available).  Please share your thoughts!

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 12:46:22 PM »

Apps, really. Some things, like Genius Scan, are fantastic - or Perfect Scan (which I have since switched to).
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 03:16:51 PM »

Quote from: Vinda-Lou on March 16, 2012, 12:10:46 PM

I have a desktop PC, a late 2010 Macbook Air (11 inch), and a Droid Thunderbolt phone.  I was looking into getting an iPad 2 to use for work and play; I'm a 5th grade teacher and I thought the iPad 2 would come in handy as a grade-book, a camera for photographing student work and then showing it to parents during conferences, and other uses.  But those reasons alone are not worth $400 or more.  I watch movies and read Kindle books on my MBA or phone, and I have both for simpler games and music (although I recently got System Shock 2 running on my MBA!).

I figure between the phone and MBA I have everything covered that an iPad2 could do.  What might I be missing out on?  Is it worth it?  (I just sold some guitar stuff on eBay, so I have about $400 to buy the 16gig new or 32gig used from eBay (would only buy one with the 1 year plan still available).  Please share your thoughts!

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Based on what you already have, it's not worth it. You've got the MBA, you've got a Thunderbolt, you're good to go. There's a lot of duplication between AppStore and the Play Store (seriously, who thought that renaming was a good idea...)
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 10:06:06 PM »

"What am I missing out on by not having an iPad2?"

 AN IPAD 3!
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 12:19:20 AM »

I cannot justify buying this.  Many of the accessories look amazing - especially ones for guitars, etc.  But I cannot buy an iPad just for a few cool guitar effects.  I am an absolute gadget geek, but even when the first iPad came out, it never struck that nerve - the one that tells me I must have it! 
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 02:56:21 AM »

Tablets in general fill a unique void between your phone and your laptop/desktop.  A few years ago before the iPad there were all sorts of debate about the "usage space" for such a device.  But these days it's becoming clearer that tablets are indeed their own category, and have the potential to replace the PC altogether in the long run.

What makes them so interesting is that they are much more personal devices, like your phone.  But with a screen that's so much larger, they can do so many additional things, or do many of the things you do on your phone that much better.  But they are still small enough to go places that you might not take your laptop, like on a treadmill or in a hot tub.  Let me tell you there's something magically relaxing about taking a bath while browsing the internet and having some nice music playing in the background.  I suspect people have found all sorts of different ways and places to use their iPads, particularly now with all the accessories and apps available.  You're talking about a device that is so simple to use that babies/kids can play with them, but powerful enough to handle all your general tasks and more.  Plus games running the Unreal Engine.  Crazy stuff.

Long story short, it's not about features or specs per se, it's about filling a usage space you probably didn't even realize existed.  Things you are kind of just making do with presently (like reading on the phone) are a much more enjoyable experience on an iPad.  It's nothing that you "need" per se, but you eventually learn to appreciate.

Also, as an educator, one thing you might want to take a look at is the new textbook stuff they have going.  Looks really interesting.  Maybe you can write the iPad off on your taxes smile

http://www.apple.com/education/ibooks-textbooks/
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 01:10:27 PM »

I'm due for a new phone and June and have decided that I would rather spend the $200-$250 or so I was  going spend on it towards the new Ipad.  I will get  a cheaper android smartphone of some sorts in lieu.  I should still be able to get a decent android for around $50 with a 2 year contract.  I personally can't justify getting a new Iphone and a new ipad.  That would be close to a grand!  apple has finally won me over and I must have a new Ipad!  My wife just got the new iphone and that is the first apple device in my household since an Apple IIgs
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 01:18:44 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on March 17, 2012, 02:56:21 AM

Also, as an educator, one thing you might want to take a look at is the new textbook stuff they have going.  Looks really interesting.  Maybe you can write the iPad off on your taxes smile

http://www.apple.com/education/ibooks-textbooks/

Interesting to note, on the collegiate end of things, the Nook (and Kindle) does textbooks already and you can rent them for a reduced price. Though, ironically, you can rent a physical textbook from BN even cheaper. So if college textbooks are a motivating factor in getting a tablet, I'd strongly suggest a Nook tablet instead and save yourself $200. Many college bookstores are actually run by Barnes and Noble, so this is something they already pretty much have locked up.

Granted, that page is talking about primary ed textbooks, which I can't see the already budget strapped schools justifying the added cost.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 01:35:09 PM »

My district is considering adding iPad 2s to the budget in the future - possibly in the next couple of years.  They try to stay current with technology (except OSes... we switched to Win XP pretty late though when we finally upgraded years ago.  I forgot which college it was, but a student teacher in my school said that a college in NY(?) was giving an iPad to incoming freshmen!

On a separate note, if I can get $100 more, I can afford the newest iPad. 
If I go for it, what would be the best choice:
a) iPad 2 16gb new $400
b) iPad 2 32gb used $400 or so
c) iPad 3 16gb new $500

I have my music on my phone and MBA, and I usually use Netflix for watching movies on either, so I don't know if I need 32gb, with the risk of buying a used iPad from eBay.

rittchard, I wish I never read your post!   Tongue  I had pretty much convinced myself I don't need one up to that!

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 02:13:08 PM »

Quote from: Vinda-Lou on March 17, 2012, 01:35:09 PM

My district is considering adding iPad 2s to the budget in the future - possibly in the next couple of years.  They try to stay current with technology (except OSes... we switched to Win XP pretty late though when we finally upgraded years ago.  I forgot which college it was, but a student teacher in my school said that a college in NY(?) was giving an iPad to incoming freshmen!

On a separate note, if I can get $100 more, I can afford the newest iPad. 
If I go for it, what would be the best choice:
a) iPad 2 16gb new $400
b) iPad 2 32gb used $400 or so
c) iPad 3 16gb new $500

I have my music on my phone and MBA, and I usually use Netflix for watching movies on either, so I don't know if I need 32gb, with the risk of buying a used iPad from eBay.

rittchard, I wish I never read your post!   Tongue  I had pretty much convinced myself I don't need one up to that!



There's always Apple refurb instead of used on eBay. slywink Kinda sad they don't offer education discounts on the iPad...

The iPad2 is getting tempting, but I already asked the wife and she said a resounding no.
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 02:22:15 PM »

Quote from: Calavera on March 17, 2012, 02:13:08 PM

Quote from: Vinda-Lou on March 17, 2012, 01:35:09 PM

My district is considering adding iPad 2s to the budget in the future - possibly in the next couple of years.  They try to stay current with technology (except OSes... we switched to Win XP pretty late though when we finally upgraded years ago.  I forgot which college it was, but a student teacher in my school said that a college in NY(?) was giving an iPad to incoming freshmen!

On a separate note, if I can get $100 more, I can afford the newest iPad. 
If I go for it, what would be the best choice:
a) iPad 2 16gb new $400
b) iPad 2 32gb used $400 or so
c) iPad 3 16gb new $500

I have my music on my phone and MBA, and I usually use Netflix for watching movies on either, so I don't know if I need 32gb, with the risk of buying a used iPad from eBay.

rittchard, I wish I never read your post!   Tongue  I had pretty much convinced myself I don't need one up to that!



There's always Apple refurb instead of used on eBay. slywink Kinda sad they don't offer education discounts on the iPad...

The iPad2 is getting tempting, but I already asked the wife and she said a resounding no.

Good call on the refurb store! 

My wife knows I am a gadget nerd, and while I never actively wanted one until recently she knew I would want to get one sooner or later.  But then she wanted an iPad too about a month ago, yet we cannot afford to buy one or two at the moment.  So while I have sold a few of my possessions and raised the money to get one, I feel kinda bad that I might get one first.  I offered to share it, but she thinks they are personal items like cell phones, and declined.  Anyway, I would not have been "allowed" to buy one if I hadn't sold some things!  Just need another hundred...
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 08:13:37 PM »

Yikes!  I went out and got the iPad 3 16gb!  WTF am I doing?  Well at least one of the few items I put on eBay earlier has an offer!  I also picked up the Apple Smart Cover.  Got it all from Radio Shack - which is selling all iPad accessories with 10% discount today (don't know if it's only with the purchase of an iPad or not).  Man, the manager was pushy - trying to get me to buy tons of other things such as the laminate screen protector for $30!  I skipped on the Apple Care for $99.00 and she said today is the only day I could buy it.  Hope I made the right decision! 

So, I'm off to open the box and see what it's like.  I also hope all my itunes apps for my old ipod touch transfer over to this! 

Anyone interested in swapping $25 Amazon credit for $25 itunes credit?
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 09:33:06 PM »

Quote from: Vinda-Lou on March 17, 2012, 08:13:37 PM

Yikes! 16gb!  WTF am I doing? 

Well, it wouldn't have been my first choice, LOL. Hope you enjoy it. Fire away if you have questions.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 10:07:03 PM »

Quote from: Calavera on March 17, 2012, 01:18:44 PM

Quote from: rittchard on March 17, 2012, 02:56:21 AM

Also, as an educator, one thing you might want to take a look at is the new textbook stuff they have going.  Looks really interesting.  Maybe you can write the iPad off on your taxes smile

http://www.apple.com/education/ibooks-textbooks/
Granted, that page is talking about primary ed textbooks, which I can't see the already budget strapped schools justifying the added cost.

The thing I think is really cool is having the freedom and capability to create your own textbooks and add in whatever media/multimedia you feel like.  Teachers could finally tailor what they teach to exactly the style they want to, and have the capability to stay 100% current to boot.  And this would be great for college as well.  I remember a number of courses I took where the professors only wanted to use their own notes in lieu of the textbook, so we were all forced to check them out at the library to make copies.  How thing have changed!

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Vinda Lou, congrats!  I really hope you enjoy it smile


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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 04:22:02 PM »

I was up to 2am playing Infinity Blade (or something)... This iPad is pretty cool! 

I'm going to explore, but what good "classic" PC games are out for the iPad?  I know there are some adventure games - I was able to load up a ton of ipad games, including 7th Guest, on the iPad.  I think Telltale has Sam & Max out.  I'll head over to the correct section here and see, but I thought I'd throw this out here...

I'm probably going to exchange the Apple cover with one that covers the back too.  I also like the Gelaskins covers.  As far as the screen protector, I've heard that the Zagg Invisibleshields stink due to the amazing difficulty putting them on - and then they are not so great anyway.  This cover seems good, as does this one

For the case, this one is recommended, but this steampunk Gelaskin is nice.

I've heard that many of the iPad2 cases do not work well with the new one; does anyone have recommendations or warnings for cases to avoid?
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2012, 12:14:48 AM »

Other redone PC games include the Broken Sword adventure games, Another World (Out of this World), Beneath a Steel Sky, Majesty, Weird Worlds: Return to Infinte Space, and plenty of others.
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 01:13:27 AM »

Now that I finally own a New IPad, I just wanted Vinda-Lou to know he's missing out on everythingicon_smile

I think the most basic nice thing is now, most mornings, I just use my iPad to do basic surfing and emailing. Most mornings and evenings I don't even boot my PC at all except to play a game. Which is fine. I've spent way too much of my life anchored to a desk.  icon_smile

Apps like Flipboard have actually gotten me sort of excited about reading news again. Lots of games I just found ok on my Touch I enjoy much more on the bigger screen. Of course it's am amazing photo album/frame and you can find an app firer most anything etc etc. But I think even if you use it for mundane stuff, it's just more fun than traditional desktops and at least for me, starts to feel second-nature.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 08:13:40 PM »

Quote from: Blackjack on May 02, 2012, 01:13:27 AM

Now that I finally own a New IPad, I just wanted Vinda-Lou to know he's missing out on everythingicon_smile

I think the most basic nice thing is now, most mornings, I just use my iPad to do basic surfing and emailing. Most mornings and evenings I don't even boot my PC at all except to play a game. Which is fine. I've spent way too much of my life anchored to a desk.  icon_smile

Apps like Flipboard have actually gotten me sort of excited about reading news again. Lots of games I just found ok on my Touch I enjoy much more on the bigger screen. Of course it's am amazing photo album/frame and you can find an app firer most anything etc etc. But I think even if you use it for mundane stuff, it's just more fun than traditional desktops and at least for me, starts to feel second-nature.

Quote from: Vinda-Lou on March 17, 2012, 08:13:37 PM

Yikes!  I went out and got the iPad 3 16gb!  WTF am I doing?  Well at least one of the few items I put on eBay earlier has an offer!  I also picked up the Apple Smart Cover.  Got it all from Radio Shack - which is selling all iPad accessories with 10% discount today (don't know if it's only with the purchase of an iPad or not).  Man, the manager was pushy - trying to get me to buy tons of other things such as the laminate screen protector for $30!  I skipped on the Apple Care for $99.00 and she said today is the only day I could buy it.  Hope I made the right decision! 

So, I'm off to open the box and see what it's like.  I also hope all my itunes apps for my old ipod touch transfer over to this! 

Anyone interested in swapping $25 Amazon credit for $25 itunes credit?
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I couldn't agree more, my brother!  Loving the iPad!  I've read more (comics  paranoid) lately than I have in the last few years combined!
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 08:58:22 AM »

I may actually get an iPad but probably not until the next gen comes out. Or possibly even the gen after that as Apple tends to do X.5 versions every other year. I know I'll chafe under the heel of their jackboot but what can you do. I want to have a native Hulu app.
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