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« on: August 29, 2006, 02:47:42 PM »

After playing the Warhammer:Dawn of War PC game, I'm pretty interested in the whole setting, and the Warhammer 40k game looks fun to me.  My son just turned six, and it seems like he could be pretty good at playing as well (he plays some other games that he does okay at).  I'm not sure who else I'd play yet though, but that's down the road.

In general, how is the 40k game?  Is there a decent amount of strategy, and long term play to get out of it?  Does it just get to expensive? 

I've also considered the normal game as well, and honestly, I think I'm really burnt out on the fantasy stuff, so it doesn't look as fun.  But, is the normal Warhammer better?
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2006, 03:38:49 PM »

I take it you mean in terms of the tabletop games? If so I really don't have any ideas, but I do want to say that I agree completely regarding the game turning you on to the setting. I recently bought the Ultramarines omnibus though I haven't read it yet, and am very interested in the setting.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2006, 03:42:35 PM »

Yes, the table top games.  I'm kind of curious to get them and play.  I've seen the models at the local store in the mall, and they looked great all painted, etc.  Seems like it could be a lot of fun to play the table top game, beyond the computer games.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2006, 05:59:08 PM »

The setting is awesome.  I bought Liber Chaotica just to page through and read, even though I have no intention of ever actually playing the tabletop game.  You might want to grab one of these "fluff" books too, if your interests lie more with the backstory than the (admittedly insanely geeky) actual game.

And if anyone tries to claim you're just as much of a dork for just owning the book, even if you're not playing it, make up some shit about "mostly buying the books for their artwork."  Then flip through and show them some of it.  Works every time because the art's so awesome, even if it's a little dark...
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2006, 06:16:07 PM »

I think you need to see a game being played before you decide.  It's a complete and total dorkfest.  Dudes bring their units in those crazy suitcases with foam interiors.  And 2/3's of the game is spent arguing about rules, complete with "the bringing out of the rulebooks". Sometimes people can cite rules from memory, those are the true l33t's.  That's been my experience from watching anyway.  Oh, and the whole place smells like "no shower".
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 06:26:56 PM »

Pretty much, yeah.  I'd avoid tabletop like the plague it is.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 07:53:48 PM »

I don't see myself ever playing any game in a gaming store.  I am afraid of a lot of what's mentioned, and a lot of the people that play the games.  However, a cousin plays, and he's not really the stereotypical player, nor local unfortunately.  A guy at work plays as well, and is pretty normal. 

I just think it looks interesting.  I probably will grab a book like suggested, a lot of the stories/history are interesting.  I haven't really gotten into science fiction at all lately, so that appeals to me a bit. 

I may grab the starter 40k kit.  Its only $45, and looks like there is some decent play in it for the kids and I.  I've been tempted to grab one of those tank or Space Marine models to have around, as they are fun in the games and look nice.  Well, not sure I could paint them that nicely, but who knows.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2006, 10:00:22 PM »

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on August 29, 2006, 05:59:08 PM

And if anyone tries to claim you're just as much of a dork for just owning the book, even if you're not playing it, make up some shit about "mostly buying the books for their artwork."  Then flip through and show them some of it.  Works every time because the art's so awesome, even if it's a little dark...

Hey!  I have all the 3rd and 4th edition background and game books along with a shelf full of White Dwarf issues and like 50 of the novels.  I've never played the tabletop game and never intend to. icon_wink  I am a DORK!?

One thing I DO know about the tabletop game: it's a money pit.  Of course you can always buy the starter set (Battle for Macragge) and then pick up cheap proxies or make your own.  As long as you're playing with your kid then it's a fine setup.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2006, 03:12:55 AM »

I played the tabletop game for a little bit (mostly with a roommate at the time) and I have to say that it takes lots of time, space, and money.  Time and space mostly for the assembly and painting/drying of units.  That can either be it's own relaxing pasttime or a huge hurdle, depending on your point of view.  The money problem is simply because you end up buying bunches of units and books and stuff.  Depending on who you play with, you can set up games with just a few squads or grow it to ridiculous sizes (you add points to each unit depending on the weapons they have). 

If you can deal with those drawbacks the actual stragegy and tactics can be quite fun, although I didn't both to play in any store tournaments or anything hardcore. 
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2006, 03:44:07 AM »

Although I'm very much a fan of tabletop miniature games, I would have to say stay away from 40k the tabletop game.  Games Workshop has generally moved towards customer hostility for the last few years and current trends follow that.  It's costly, the rules aren't the best out there, it's definitely time consuming to assemble, paint, and then play with an army, let alone two.

Have you considered board games?  Or perhaps you can try the role playing game?

There are some other miniatures games out there that are cheaper, have friendlier companies, better rules, and have as much distribution.

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I think you need to see a game being played before you decide.  It's a complete and total dorkfest.  Dudes bring their units in those crazy suitcases with foam interiors.  And 2/3's of the game is spent arguing about rules, complete with "the bringing out of the rulebooks". Sometimes people can cite rules from memory, those are the true l33t's.  That's been my experience from watching anyway.  Oh, and the whole place smells like "no shower".

Oh and unlike the stereotypes people have mentioned here, it's not a complete dork fest although there are undesireable elements that play.  However, when you think about it, that's the very same thing we could say about our main hobby on this website right?  I mean, there are plenty of other gamers we'd be ashamed to associate with.  So it's the same as with any group.

People with suitcases to protect their armies, that's common sense.  If you have something that you own that you bought for a lot of money, then spent a lot of man hours making it look nice, wouldn't you want to protect it?  Some people are fanatical about their cars, it's just a car right?  Photographers buy cases for their cameras, musicians buy cases for their instruments, hell dedicated pool players buy cases for their pool cues.

The same people who argue the rules are the ones that are less desired at the table.  Eventually they go away.  Video games have the cheaters, punks, teamkillers, people who spout constant trash on the microphone, constantly whine about how imbalanced things are, etc...  So yet again another one sided stereotype.

I don't understand what's wrong with memorizing the rules.  I'm damn sure that if many of here can remember exactly how certain video game mechanics work and the best strategies under those mechanics for accomplishing mission objectives.  X-Com anyone?  Dawn of War?  Countless other turn based strategy games?

The people who don't shower are often the first people kicked out of a group.  And even then, it's understandable.  It's more likely that these people come from work to unwind.  Yet, these people are still presentable most of the time, whereas I'm sure any of us gamers can recall times when we've played in horrible states of dress and cleanliness.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2006, 01:57:18 PM »

Are you really apologizing for WH40k TT players?  Damn.

Chances are, Scott, you'll go into the comics store or whatever that sells the WH40k figures and the sales staff will scare you half to death with some combination of their smell, appearance, or utter lack of social skill.

Like all PnP/TT/board games, they're just not worth the money unless you've already tracked down a group of normal (or at least tolerable) people to play with.  In short, if you thought going to your local comics store on WH40K night was a viable option to actually play, good lord you are wrong, the faces and stenches of the freaks that show up to places and events like that will haunt you for the rest of your days.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2006, 02:55:08 PM »

As another option:

Some of the other games in the 40k setting, namely Epic and Battlefleet Gothic, have free rules to download from www.specialist-games.com. You can play with proxies or paper counters, and IMO, these games really capture the 'feel' of the universe without shelling out tons of money to GW.

Troops defending the homeland from invaders while a war for space superiority goes on overhead? Yep. smile
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2006, 03:00:34 PM »

Quote from: -Lord Ebonstone- on August 30, 2006, 01:57:18 PM

Are you really apologizing for WH40k TT players?  Damn.

Chances are, Scott, you'll go into the comics store or whatever that sells the WH40k figures and the sales staff will scare you half to death with some combination of their smell, appearance, or utter lack of social skill.

Like all PnP/TT/board games, they're just not worth the money unless you've already tracked down a group of normal (or at least tolerable) people to play with.  In short, if you thought going to your local comics store on WH40K night was a viable option to actually play, good lord you are wrong, the faces and stenches of the freaks that show up to places and events like that will haunt you for the rest of your days.

That may be true for your local comic shop, but when I bought my stuff and checked out the games being played in the Games Workshop store everybody was nice, informative, helpful, mature, and un-stinky.  That may not be the case everywhere, but that was a pretty single-aspect place (just Games Workshop games, obviously) and it wasn't like your dark, dingy hole theory at all. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2006, 03:22:15 PM »

Games Workshop stores?  Didn't know they had their own chain.

The moral of the story is, check the staff.  If they seem normal and like they have some willpower, they'll kick the monstrosities out, and fun shall be had by all.  If they're the comic book store guy from the Simpsons, you're fucked.
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2006, 03:53:50 PM »

Man, this made me laugh. 

We have a comic book store locally (now, this is about 50 miles north of Philly mind you) that personifies what LE is talking about here.  This place, on a normal basis, is pretty cool.  Nice big store, beautiful location, lots of comics and miniatures stuff, D&D stuff, Tabletop Warhammer stuff, all that jazz.  A geeks dream really, and even though I'm not into any of that, I love going in with my nephew and looking at everything. 

Anyway, he and I went in on a Sunday morning a few weeks ago, as he was looking for a Superman comic of some sort, and I wanted to look up some stuff on the Necrons with the upcoming expansion coming up and all.  There were two long-ass tables set up with guys getting their Warhammer stuff set up for a game.

I swear, God as my witness, I have NEVER seen anything like this.  What rock these guys crawled out from under is seriously beyond me.  It was absolutely Scary and Laugh-Out-Loud Funny at the same time.  I caught myself staring at one point, mouth open, in shock really, that people like this are out there somewhere.  All ages too.  I would guess the tables had kids in their early teens all the way up to men in their late 40's.  And the way they dressed and how they were "groomed"...  Honestly, I kid you not, you had to see it to believe it.
 
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2006, 04:42:05 PM »

Went into the Warhammer store last night.  It was 9:20, so I was the only one there.  Couldn't get in earlier then that.  Talked to the employee for a bit.  He seemed pretty normal.  Mentioned that he was a big hiker, and certainly seemed well groomed and pretty fit for the most part.  He was pretty enthusiastic about the Warhammer stuff, and from listening, I can't imagine how much money he's spent on it.  It was strange to go into a store these days, and actually listen to an enthusiastic employee.  Doesn't seem to happen anymore.

All the units looked interesting.  The costs looked ridiculous!  Ouch.  I ended up buying the starter kit for 40k for $45.  I figure, tons of scenarios to play with my son, see if we like it, and go from there.  Lots to do with this box, and very easy way to progress.

Personally, its just a fun board game right now I think.  I wanted some Space Marines anyway, as they are amusing in the game. 

I just don't see going crazy on the cost for these things!

And as far as the comics stores, I've seen the horror stories at a couple in the past, so I've tended to stay out of them.  This Warhammer store, looked nice, and from what I saw the other day, mostly teens in there, a bunch looked like athletes even.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2006, 09:44:40 PM »

Ok.  Look.  40k, is more a hobby than just a game.  if your in for just looking for a game,  I dont recommend it.  time and money are definite factors to think about.

I played fantasy battle when I started, and moved to 40k, later on.  I love the setting, I have some great friends who play, who are not dorks.  We usually know our rules, and take each others word for it, when we dont.  Sometimes we just let things go as well.

Painting.  can be done easily, and in a fast fashion, if you arent into it.  Or it can be something you take LOTS of time to do.  you can invest in a few colors, base colors, sort of, and do a quickie paint job on miniatures.  Or you can invest in some quality paints and brushes of all sorts and do some serious detail painting, if thats your thing.  Personally, I love painting miniatures.  Some people paint models, of airplanes, or trucks, or classic cars, or tanks.  I paint miniature futuristic warriors, and demons.  Some players will give a very basic paint job to rank and file troops, and take extra time to specialize seargents, and single miniatures.  it really depends on what you want to be involved in.

Cost.  If you plan on only playing small games, you can keep the cost very low.  most games run about 1500 points.  A Army this size can run you anywhere between 100 bucks, to 300, depending on what you want to get, and what army you play.  1500 points is a very average game.  some people play 1000 for quick games, or less.  Some people play 2000-3000 points, which are all day affairs usually.  there are A LOT of quality plastic models now.  Almost all armies have rank and file, regular troops in plastic now.  Plastic tends to be a bit easier to paint, it has less detail than the metal minis.  Different play styles and armies will lend to different cost.

Space Marines:  GREAT starter army.  The basic troops, IE, the marine is very versatile, and they come kinda cheap in plastic.  They are also pretty straight forward to paint.

Games Workshop stores.  EH.  While the guys can be very nice.  I dont find them to always be honest.  They are like most salesmen, they will try and get you to buy what they can.  Telling you, what you 'need'.

If you have a local hobby store you go to.  PLEASE go to them.  I have been going to the same hobby store for about 10 years now, if not longer.  I liked it from the get go, becuase the guy was always honest with me.  He tells me when something sucks, and he tells me when something is worth my money, or when something I might be interested in is coming out.  if you can find them, and they are out there.  Many small stores will give discounts on Games Workshop stuff.  Mine gives a 10% discount to EVERYONE on all GW purchases.  GW has often told them to stop.  But they dont.  As long as GW gets thier money, there really isntmuch they can do about it.

Get the main rule book, which I believe is 40 bucks, or sit and look through it.  Whatever.  Check ebay, lots of cheap stuff on ebay.  if its something your interested in, you can always pick up the main box for I think its 80, and it comes with a starter for two armies.  I believe, marines and orks.

Any other questions, dont be afraid to ask.  I am always glad to help.

Like i said though.  its not just a table top game to jump into.  its really a hobby for someone whos interested in collecting things.  And doing some artwork along the line.
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2006, 09:59:49 PM »

If you are interested in the Space Marines background stuff there are several great fluff books about them.  Index Astartes vol. 1-4 are packed with good, interesting stuff on them.  Everything from how they are made to the different Chapters and their individual backstories and histories.

The nice thing about the basic starter army is you can paint it however you want.  You can make an existing army, for which there are specific rules, or just design your own.  One of the Space Marine army box sets comes with the newest Space Marine Codex which has all the rules for making your own Chapter.  Might be looking a bit further down the line, but many people see creating their own "living army" as at least half the fun.

There are also plenty of websites out there will tons of good information if you just want to soak in the fluff.
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2006, 12:43:29 AM »

here are some eldar that I painted long ago, as well as a Chaos Space Marine.  A OLD mini, that they dont make anymore as a matter of fact.









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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2006, 03:30:26 AM »

Nice paint job, GGMark!. :smile:

I had gotten away from playing WHFB and 40K mainly since it had gotten to be such a money sink.  Our group was addicted to playing every spare chance we got, but the group broke up and I haven't really played regularly in years.  If I buy any new miniatures these days, it's for painting, not playing. 

If you have extra time and money it can be a blast.  Just be prepared to spend some cash if you have a competitive game group.  Some of the Games Workshop stuff is nice, but it's really overpriced (and we couldn't be satisfied with a measly 1000 pt. army :smile: ). 

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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2006, 09:10:18 AM »

thanks for the compliments.  those are some of my older pieces as well.  I have changed my painting style some, and I think I get better.  I will try and dig up some of my stuff.  its been put away for so long becuase of my move, and the fact that when I worked and closed all the time, I couldnt find a regular group to play with.  With the new job though, and more money I really might get back into it.  I have still bought pieces to just paint, but havent played.

I recently bought the tau Commander, cuz I love the challenge of painting white mini's.  Also when I wanted to do a Tau army, I wanted a snow theme, so it will fit right in, if I every do it..smile

BUT.  There are new eldar minis coming out.  They look really nice.  So I dont know.  I might stick with my original chaos idea of a Emporers Children army.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2006, 12:45:09 PM »

Okay, second attempt at reply.

Nice painting job.  Looks very nice.

I grabbed Battle of Macragge.  It has a bunch of figures, some rules, etc.  It cost about $10 more then the little pack of Space Marines I was going to get, and has all of them plus a lot more.  It'll be fun to paint with the kids, and see what they can do.  With the fall/winter coming, always nice to have 'calm' activities to do in the house. 

All of its so much $$, even just the interesting books.  Neat history though with it.

Any good websites out there?  I googled, but couldn't really find anything or tell what was good.
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2006, 03:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Scott on August 31, 2006, 12:45:09 PM

It'll be fun to paint with the kids, and see what they can do.  With the fall/winter coming, always nice to have 'calm' activities to do in the house. 


I don't think I've played the game in about 5 years, but remember the painting aspect to actually be very calming.  I kept up with it for a while even after my gaming group lost interest in 40K.

Sort of odd that painting various gentically modified killing machines is relaxing, but it is.  icon_wink
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2006, 10:36:29 PM »

I always found painting calming too.  I dont know why. 

Resource.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000

or jsut check the games workshop website.

for those that have been in the hobby awhile.  I picked up a novel last week called 'Horus Rising' by dan abnett.  I HIGHLY recommend it.  It looks to be the first book of a series, and its great.  Its the story of The Horus Heresy.  I dont want to add spoilers for those that might pick it up.  great read though.  I cant wait for more.
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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2006, 12:02:35 AM »

40k Fluff Bible - tons of official info, though might be a bit dated.  This should be your first stop for fluff.
Index Astartes - Official Space Marine histories (click on names for more)
Space Marine Chapter Gallery - pictures of heraldry for official Chapters
Chapters list - a list of SM Chapters and brief info, including pics of their icons
Lexicanum - a WH40k wiki
Red Dwarf - a ton of interesting 40k info, including a very nice map
HHCCG - pics of the cards from the Horus Heresy CCG
Librarium-Online - tips on modeling, building armies, tactics, etc.
Dark Millennia Galaxy Map Clickable galaxy map with tons of history, also a nice Flash-based map
40k Planets - List of planets in 40k
WH40k timeline - timeline of important events
WH40k timeline - a prettier timeline
WH40k timeline - yet another timeline
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« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2006, 01:54:22 AM »

The Waaagh - site for all things Orky.  Has one of the most creative collection of model builders I've ever seen.  Some truly awe-inspiring work there.
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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2006, 12:28:11 PM »

Thanks for more info!  I apparently need to decide which color to paint my new space marines, as the chapters they are in apparently matter more then I thought.  Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, etc. really add a lot of choices.
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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2006, 04:49:04 PM »

If you are going to be painting them, do yourself a favor and buy good brushes, they will make your life much easier. Windsor and Newton make some decent ones, as do Vallejo. Also, pick up some flow improver. Again, i use Vallejo, but there are a bunch of different ones out there.

If you start doing any of the pewter models, I would recommend a rotary kit made by Proxxon with a flexshaft. Small figures are easy to file and sand, but larger models (and i'm thinking more along the lines of Warmachine stuff here) can be a pain and it makes the job way way easier.

Anyway, happy painting.
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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2006, 06:22:12 PM »

Also realize there are better paints out there than what Games Workshop puts out.  While not necessarily a bad paint, they are overpriced for what you get (and I really dislike their container lids).
I prefer Reaper Master Series or Vallejo.  I like the RMS a bit better, but that's just my preference.  They are both excellent.
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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2006, 08:22:12 PM »

I will second the mention of Vallejo, its by far my paint of choice.  Reaper also makes pretty nice paints.  For a paint 'thinner', I use Flow-Aid by liquidtex.  It might seem like a dumb idea to 'water' down your paints, but you would be surprised by the results.
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« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2006, 04:52:23 AM »

i thought of a couple more things to get. Firstly, an Ott-Lite or similar, good lighting is key here. I second the Reaper MSP's, with the exception of Vallejo for the reds. In addition, check out www.coolminiornot.com and search for the highly rated ones...sometimes just seeing photo's of well painted mini's is pretty helpful.

I might have a couple of extra mini's laying around as well, if you want to try your hand at Ork's or the like. Shoot me a PM and I can mail them to ya. My mini store had a 50 percent off sale and I went nuts, although it was mostly Warmachine stuff that I scored (which is a superior game IMO).

Have fun with it, it's a wonderful hobby, if a little expensive.
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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2006, 10:54:31 AM »

Quote from: Working Mike on September 02, 2006, 04:52:23 AM

In addition, check out www.coolminiornot.com and search for the highly rated ones...sometimes just seeing photo's of well painted mini's is pretty helpful.

Or immensely discouraging.  icon_wink
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2006, 11:35:00 PM »

If I had some disposable income i'd be tempted to purchase some Space Marines and have some fun painting them.
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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2006, 12:58:20 AM »

I just ordered the new Eldar Army box today.  I am sure I will be 'paying' for it when it comes in a couple weeks, but i couldnt resist.  I felt it was the perfect time to get back in.  With DoW.  This Thread, The novel Horus Rising.


http://community.livejournal.com/astronimicon/71965.html#cutid1

I just couldnt resist.
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« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2006, 01:53:04 AM »

Where did you order the box?  Does it have stuff like the new codex, etc.?  I think, if I collect a full army, it'll be the Eldar, just waiting to see the new stuff.
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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2006, 02:47:06 AM »

The 3rd edition Eldar codex is still the most current, though I think the new one is slated for release in 3-4 months.  There is a FAQ available here to use the older one with the new rules.
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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2006, 09:04:36 AM »

The box set, WILL have the codex in it, even though the book itself is not due for more than a month, the box set itself is due in a couple weeks.  They want to milk as much money as they can.  I on the other hand, always liked the eldar models, and really am not to concerned about the book. 
I just ordered it from my local hobby store.  he normally only gets like 2-3 of a box when they release, so I wanted to make sure I got one.

if your in Michigan.  Old Guard Hobbies in Sterling Heights is where I go.
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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2006, 06:53:54 PM »

Any more good info on what's in the box, besides the codex and picture? 

I need to find a good local shop, beyond the Warhammer store and its full prices.  I have no idea how to find a comic/game shop though.  Time for a new post...
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2006, 08:51:15 PM »

I would venture thats it.  The Exarch is limited edition as well.  Normally the box is a great deal oif you can find it at discount..smile  Still not to bad a deal if you get it full price.   
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2006, 10:53:56 PM »

I used to play Space Hulk many years ago.  It's set in the Warhammer 40k universe, but it's completely self-contained, so you don't have to keep buying new stuff for it.  Games Workshop put out several other games like that, for people who didn't want to get into having to spend hundreds or more on figures to keep up with the competition.  Something like that might be better than the full-on wargame.
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