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« on: December 04, 2006, 08:53:14 AM »

Seriously, I'm being put off by the constant bickering between the PS3 and 360 crowds along with those who goad the fights on.  So many threads have devolved into back and forth childish arguments that go nowhere.

I request that the mods take a more active stance against this because it's really starting to pollute these boards and the once friendly atmosphere that CG had.  I wouldn't mind a few troublesome threads being locked as they've already gone on long enough and are really no longer about their original, or even a reasonable tangent topic.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2006, 03:40:37 PM »

For what it's worth it helps to take a long-term view of these things.  With every major gaming event in the last couple years (E3's, PSP & DS launch, 360 launch, now Wii and PS3 launch) there tends to be some squabbling and griping back and forth between people who feel strongly about one system or another.  It's weird and we should all be more grown up about it but it happens nonetheless.

If it helps, they tend to be flashes in the pan with a lot of light and heat for a brief moment and then those kinds of threads tend to go away for awhile.  People get new stuff, other people don't (or can't) get the new stuff and people feel the need to defend their "territory".  It's childish but it's also human nature.

It's happening a lot right now because of the dual launches of the Wii and the PS3.  If you went back a year you'd see it a lot last fall when the 360 released.  There are also the 398 threads about whether the DS is better than the PSP.

I'm guessing it'll go away by itself but we can also keep a closer watch on it so it doesn't get carried too far.  And if you see a specific post that violates the Code of Conduct then don't hesitate to report it or email me or Ron or Farley2K or naednek and we'll take care of it.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2006, 03:44:59 PM »

I think there is nothing wrong with some good healthy discussion.  What I don't like it that it tends to end up with everyone devaluing each others opinion.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2006, 03:53:36 PM »

You guys all sound like a bunch of Atari-loving pansies!  My Commodore 64 posse will take on all of you!
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2006, 03:57:52 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on December 04, 2006, 03:53:36 PM

You guys all sound like a bunch of Atari-loving pansies!  My Commodore 64 posse will take on all of you!

Dude my calculator is more powerful than you C64.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2006, 04:05:07 PM »

Quote from: Arkon on December 04, 2006, 03:57:52 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on December 04, 2006, 03:53:36 PM

You guys all sound like a bunch of Atari-loving pansies!  My Commodore 64 posse will take on all of you!

Dude my calculator is more powerful than you C64.

TI-89 FTW baby!

(that sounded WAY less dorky in my head)
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2006, 04:10:15 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 04, 2006, 04:05:07 PM

Quote from: Arkon on December 04, 2006, 03:57:52 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on December 04, 2006, 03:53:36 PM

You guys all sound like a bunch of Atari-loving pansies!  My Commodore 64 posse will take on all of you!

Dude my calculator is more powerful than you C64.

TI-89 FTW baby!

(that sounded WAY less dorky in my head)

Oh please, my HP 48G will take your TI on any day of the week.

(that sounded just about as dorky as I expected it to in my head)
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2006, 04:32:48 PM »

Pfft... phear my TI - Voyage 200

http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_v200.html
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2006, 05:18:21 PM »

It's times like these where I feel terribly young.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2006, 05:54:02 PM »

8088 FTW, yo.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2006, 05:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Mattc0m on December 04, 2006, 05:18:21 PM

It's times like these where I feel terribly young.

Heh...youngin.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2006, 06:03:55 PM »

Don't make me get out my punch cards.. they'll give you a nasty papercut!
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2006, 06:13:01 PM »

Quote from: Arkon on December 04, 2006, 06:03:55 PM

Don't make me get out my punch cards.. they'll give you a nasty papercut!
Youngin, you should see what papyruscuts look like, not to mention stone tabletfractures.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2006, 08:09:16 PM »

486 for the win baby.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2006, 08:27:41 PM »

386 33mhz 4mb ram damn you!

I agree it makes for a healthy discussion though.. if you don't like a particular thread just don't click on it. Constant personal attacks are one thing, but a debate on PS3 vs 360 in a console forum.. so what? If I see something I don't like I'll add my 2 cents and be done with it, or just ignore it.. but I'm not about to go around requesting censorship on other people just because I personally don't like what they're saying.
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2006, 08:45:14 PM »

Quote from: corruptrelic on December 04, 2006, 08:27:41 PM

386 33mhz 4mb ram damn you!

Weaking. Apple IIc FTW!
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2006, 12:28:28 AM »

Quote from: wonderpug on December 04, 2006, 04:10:15 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 04, 2006, 04:05:07 PM

Quote from: Arkon on December 04, 2006, 03:57:52 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on December 04, 2006, 03:53:36 PM

You guys all sound like a bunch of Atari-loving pansies!  My Commodore 64 posse will take on all of you!

Dude my calculator is more powerful than you C64.

TI-89 FTW baby!

(that sounded WAY less dorky in my head)

Oh please, my HP 48G will take your TI on any day of the week.

(that sounded just about as dorky as I expected it to in my head)

amen brother! the 48G is a real man's calculator...you just don't mess with RPN.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2006, 12:44:19 AM »

Quote from: wonderpug on December 04, 2006, 06:13:01 PM

Quote from: Arkon on December 04, 2006, 06:03:55 PM

Don't make me get out my punch cards.. they'll give you a nasty papercut!
Youngin, you should see what papyruscuts look like, not to mention stone tabletfractures.

they ain't got nothing on cave wall drawing.  man, one of those things falls on you and your whole day is ruined.....
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2006, 02:48:19 AM »

How the hell you guys just skipped over the abacus, I'll never know  saywhat
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2006, 03:10:55 AM »

4MB of ram boooy!! SNAP!
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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2006, 04:04:28 AM »

Quote from: th'FOOL on December 05, 2006, 02:48:19 AM

How the hell you guys just skipped over the abacus, I'll never know  saywhat

the abacus had potential, but the whole 'Made in China' cheapness and some showstopping bugs (how they managed to ship some with only 1 sidebar instead of two I'll never know) made it more forgettable than the PS3.  You're not saying you're an abacus fanboy are you? Just asking 'cause we all know abacus fanboys have no balls.....
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2006, 05:26:05 AM »

Tandy, bitches. icon_twisted
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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2006, 06:02:31 AM »

Game Boy Advance?

No?

Damn.
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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2006, 03:35:51 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on December 04, 2006, 08:45:14 PM

Quote from: corruptrelic on December 04, 2006, 08:27:41 PM

386 33mhz 4mb ram damn you!

Weaking. Apple IIc FTW!

Little kids get Apples, then they grow up and get real PC's.
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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2006, 05:45:47 PM »

On the plus side, by this time next year we may be seeing the end of the "Tastes great! Less filling!" PS3/360 debates... icon_wink
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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2006, 06:00:42 PM »

Quote from: whiteboyskim on December 05, 2006, 05:45:47 PM

On the plus side, by this time next year we may be seeing the end of the "Tastes great! Less filling!" PS3/360 debates... icon_wink

It'll be just in time to start arguing if the PS4 or XBox 720 will be better!
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« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2006, 10:26:22 PM »

Timex Sinclair, represent

1 KILOBYTE of RAM, fool! 16Kb memory pack sold separately
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2006, 01:18:27 AM »



What's that? I hold the trump card? Oh yeah..... headbang3

Now lets get back to  deadhorse

If I drop a PS3 taped to the 360's Powerbrick from higher than 2 stories, I think I could slay me a KnightShade Dragon.

Any takers on that bet? Oh, and dibs on his eyes, mine are still un-corrected.
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2006, 01:47:02 PM »

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If I drop a PS3 taped to the 360's Powerbrick from higher than 2 stories, I think I could slay me a KnightShade Dragon.

It would fall through the Earth and come out in China.
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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2006, 03:49:10 PM »

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Now lets get back to  deadhorse

If I drop a PS3 taped to the 360's Powerbrick from higher than 2 stories, I think I could slay me a KnightShade Dragon.

It would fall through the Earth and come out in China.

After having been totally immersed in "liquid, hot Mag-ma" [/dr evil]
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Now lets get back to  deadhorse

If I drop a PS3 taped to the 360's Powerbrick from higher than 2 stories, I think I could slay me a KnightShade Dragon.

It would fall through the Earth and come out in China.

After having been totally immersed in "liquid, hot Mag-ma" [/dr evil]

I say we steal Hetz's PS3 and try out this experiment  icon_twisted
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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2006, 09:22:14 PM »

If there can't be "console holy war" posts, what exactly is anyone supposed to talk about?
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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2006, 02:27:14 AM »

Quote from: unbreakable on December 08, 2006, 09:22:14 PM

If there can't be "console holy war" posts, what exactly is anyone supposed to talk about?

You know, games and shit.  The fun stuff.  Things that don't make my head asplode.  The constant back and forth hyperbole gets really old and it would be nice to just see some moderation peppered in there. 
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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2006, 03:40:21 AM »

pshaw... did you just use "Moderation" in a sentence?


That completely disagrees with my current level of drunk.

I say nix (nichts) on the M word. Viva la Conflicte!
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2006, 03:06:46 AM »

 eek I don't even remember posting that.

A++ to company-funded drinking events. Woot.  icon_lol
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2006, 03:16:36 AM »

 mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad

BACK ON TOPIC!!!

deadhorse = annoying.

I agree that the bickering has to stop.

I am annoyed at the fact that PS3 troll posts pop up in threads that are discussing Sony fucking up then turn it into a 360vsPS3 arguement. Those threads weren't put there as a personal attack or as bait for PS3 fanboys. Sony just is REALLY THAT BAD at P.R.

I don't like my ketchup from my fries on my chicken fingers, and I CERTAINLY DON'T APPRECIATE crap like
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OH NOES!!!!
I SEE STACKS OF 360'S SITTING ON TEH SHELVS OF MY LOCL BST BUY!!!! PS3 IS THA WINNAR!!!!!! THE 360 ISN'T SELLING OUT!!!!!!!
OMFG@!@!

Simply put, this kind of comment is designed to irritate. I personally am not taking bait anymore; I'm full. If you want to drop nasty comments to people about posts that you think were targeted at you, then kindly use PM and not derail the thread. If you feel like complaining about this to the admins, head over to Site Feedback.

The fact that Hetz runs around in each thread that even MENTIONS PS3 and has been dropping crap like that makes me not want to read it.
It's like he's the only one who likes the PS3 and this is XBOX360.GAMINGTREND.COM. It isn't. I am a Sony customer and will be again. I will also want a Nintendo product.

I am also an adult, and don't need someone telling me what I can and cannot discuss. It's juvenile to expect the admins to police topics dedicated to a topic of discussion because of trolls. The fact of the matter is is that the staff have full-time jobs outside GT, and we as people need to wake the FUCK UP and smell the toast burning.

This is a gaming community. We could tolerate LE and his fluctuations for 2 years; we can CERTAINLY move past a generation leap in the console market.

I am not hopping into PS3 only threads (motorstorm thread for instance) and dropping "yeah, but who could could afford it?" comments. I'd ask the same with 360 threads. Hetz has already stated he doesn't care about how his current behaviour is tarnishing his image (Calvin mentioned it to him today in another thread).

I will try my damnedest to avoid bait, and I will not post bait. I'd like to see everyone else aim for the same goal. I don't want to start resent coming here.
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2006, 08:40:10 AM »

Purge, you fail to see how the other side looks just as bad I guess. I know exactly how everyone feels about every system because it is repeated constantly.
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2006, 01:37:18 PM »

I agree with most of the sentiment here.  There is WAY too much good stuff to talk about to dwell on a switch in platforms.  In the end, its like anything else - you don't want it?  Don't buy it.  Don't bitch at me if I decide to buy it.  Let's get back into the happy mode this place is usually in.  Do it for the children. (Not that I have any)
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2006, 01:40:06 PM »

Lee, explain to me what that means. Does someone look bad for posting a thread, a topic they bring up for discussion, just because it involves an article on PS3 sales slump?

Did we (the obvious "them" from your perspective) jump down the throats of the naysaying with troll bait, or did we discuss it with points and counter points?

I could care less about posts where people console themselves because their purchase agenda; when it gets to the OMG posts though, enough is enough. If I wanted to deal with childish people, I'd pick up random Halo2 Live Games.
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2006, 02:04:08 PM »

Quote from: Lee on December 22, 2006, 08:40:10 AM

Purge, you fail to see how the other side looks just as bad I guess. I know exactly how everyone feels about every system because it is repeated constantly.
This is an exciting time for gamers, we've got two new consoles coming out at once, one's a wildcard, the other an unstable juggernaut.  Nobody knows how this will play out.  For people interested in the industry as well as just the hobby, i.e., people who spend time every day in a gaming forum, new articles, reports, and analyses are all worth talking about.

Sure, we have multiple threads that are similar enough to all be in a single thread--Penny Arcade's forums strictly enforce having one thread per topic--but that's not how things are run here.  New releases, new movies, questions about the best HDTV...it's the norm in this (and many other) forums to have redundant topics.

The "glut of PS3s online" article has been posted in other gaming forums, in its own thread even, and people seem capable of discussing it with only the normal level of console vs. console rivalry.  Why can't we?

The bottom line is, just because one group of people don't think something is worth talking about, it doesn't mean that another group who does find it noteworthy shouldn't be allowed to discuss it.  If you think an article or a posting is rubbish, express your disagreement in coherent sentences, but don't post just to disrupt the discussion.

Hetz's recent posts aren't that different than when people would owl bomb threads of posters they didn't like in OO.
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