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« on: January 14, 2007, 09:39:26 PM »

Let me state a few things - the folks in my family have been waiting for me to make this announcement for days now as I've been losing sleep over it.  They want me to stop being so damned cranky.  (Just letting you know that I've thought about this pretty extensively)  In the end I'm making the decision to remove the Ignore feature.  I'll give you my reasons why:

1.) I feel that it avoids the issue.  If someone is that much of a nuisance, that is why I have mods.  Not just CoC breakers (new CoC coming up after this post) but folks who are just caustic to our community.  U2K wasn't a rule breaker, but you'll note he isn't reviving the Dreamcast here anymore.  If people are being that much of a problem in our community, make use of the mods. 

2.) It divides the community.  We have enough division with the OO/BC/whatever nonsense without adding more to it.  I want this to be a place where ADULT conversation can occur.  We pride ourselves on being a mature place to discuss games and putting your fingers in your ears seems like a pretty immature way to manage things. 


On the other hand, this issue did help point out issues with our CoC and how it is applied.  The CoC has been revised.  I'd ask that everyone read it (it isn't that long) and give me feedback if you feel it is necessary.  This community can't survive and grow without rules and order, so here are the new ones:



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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2007, 12:59:56 AM »

Bah humbug to deep sixing the ignore. But whatevers.

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Do not hijack other people's thread.  It is very easy to switch topics within a thread, it's not fair to the original poster.  If you like to discuss something else, please create a new thread.

How strictly is this going to be enforced? Much of the fun of threads is the rabbit tunnel like effect of jumping from topic to topic within a thread.

If I post a thread about bread and the thread ends up discussing music, that should be allowed.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2007, 01:34:54 AM »

Quote from: ATB on January 15, 2007, 12:59:56 AM

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Do not hijack other people's thread.  It is very easy to switch topics within a thread, it's not fair to the original poster.  If you like to discuss something else, please create a new thread.

If I post a thread about bread and the thread ends up discussing music, that should be allowed.

That's going to be a tricky one.  I remember one thread that went so far off track the title was finally changed to Dwarf Fortress to reflect the new discussion going on.  These things are organic.  See how this thread is already veering off topic?  It might be wise to loosen the reins on the enforcement of that particular rule.  That said, it's never been an issue before even with the off-topic posts that are dumped into threads.  That's what makes forums interesting.

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2007, 02:44:07 AM »

Quote from: stiffler on January 15, 2007, 01:34:54 AM

Quote from: ATB on January 15, 2007, 12:59:56 AM

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Do not hijack other people's thread.  It is very easy to switch topics within a thread, it's not fair to the original poster.  If you like to discuss something else, please create a new thread.

If I post a thread about bread and the thread ends up discussing music, that should be allowed.

That's going to be a tricky one.  I remember one thread that went so far off track the title was finally changed to Dwarf Fortress to reflect the new discussion going on.  These things are organic.  See how this thread is already veering off topic?  It might be wise to loosen the reins on the enforcement of that particular rule.  That said, it's never been an issue before even with the off-topic posts that are dumped into threads.  That's what makes forums interesting.

Have you hugged a moderator today?

Purposeful derailment of a harrassing nature is what will get the axe.  More than likely, nudges in another direction is fine. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2007, 04:51:34 AM »

I think you guys made the right move   thumbsup from me!
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 04:58:28 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on January 15, 2007, 02:44:07 AM

Purposeful derailment of a harrassing nature is what will get the axe.  More than likely, nudges in another direction is fine. 

Thanks, Ron.  That is the kind of clarification I was looking for.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2007, 05:10:33 AM »

And hugs aren't really necessary.

naednek does like donuts though.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2007, 06:34:57 AM »

 thumbsup

I would put forth that the derailment should be "unwanted derailment" (to be determined by the thread creator and/or mods).

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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 12:52:44 PM »

The most important thing to me is that you made a decision and will no longer be losing sleep or be cranky around your family do the stress it has caused you.  Much more important than a few dozen knuckleheads arguing over the fate of an ignore feature on a gaming forum, that's for certain. 

What moron started that whole thread anyway?  Somebody should shoot that guy.

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 03:23:06 PM »

Quote from: warning on January 15, 2007, 05:10:33 AM

And hugs aren't really necessary.

naednek does like donuts though.

I thought he liked wet willies.....


Anyways,  thumbsup on the decision.  Now let's get back to important things like banning the guy who started this whole mess: Calvin.  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2007, 08:02:37 PM »

Massive thumbs  thumbsup from me. Great decision, the right decision, and I hope you get some peace and quiet out of it!!
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2007, 11:19:30 PM »

I would have liked to have seen the ignore feature stay as it was a completely optional thing, nobody had to use it unless they felt it was necessary.

I didn't realize it was that bad that you it was affecting your real-life like that though.. maybe we can send in some rogaine and anti-wrinkle cream donations to help combat the stress you must have been through..?  icon_wink
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2007, 04:51:19 AM »

 thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2007, 02:01:41 PM »

Thanks go out to Padre from OO for an alternative solution for those who want the ignore feature - do it for yourself, if you use Firefox.

First, go here and grab this plugin - http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/

Next install this script - http://s93731204.onlinehome.us/firefox/greasemonkey/phpbb.ignore.user.js

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Clicking the little X by people's names adds them to your ignore list. The button can be clicked again at any time to take them off it again. In addition, a button will appear on all ignored users posts allowing you to reveal the content of that particular post temporarily, if desired. Otherwise, you will be able to see that they have posted but the actual text is removed.

Looks like a pretty easy solution for those using Firefox 1.5 or 2.0.   So there ya go.

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2007, 01:50:22 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on January 19, 2007, 02:01:41 PM

Thanks go out to Padre from OO for an alternative solution for those who want the ignore feature - do it for yourself, if you use Firefox.

First, go here and grab this plugin - http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/

Next install this script - http://s93731204.onlinehome.us/firefox/greasemonkey/phpbb.ignore.user.js

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Clicking the little X by people's names adds them to your ignore list. The button can be clicked again at any time to take them off it again. In addition, a button will appear on all ignored users posts allowing you to reveal the content of that particular post temporarily, if desired. Otherwise, you will be able to see that they have posted but the actual text is removed.

Looks like a pretty easy solution for those using Firefox 1.5 or 2.0.   So there ya go.



I use Firefox, so this is pretty nice. Thanks for the heads up.
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2007, 09:44:36 PM »

Quote from: Hetz on January 23, 2007, 01:50:22 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on January 19, 2007, 02:01:41 PM

Thanks go out to Padre from OO for an alternative solution for those who want the ignore feature - do it for yourself, if you use Firefox.

First, go here and grab this plugin - http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/

Next install this script - http://s93731204.onlinehome.us/firefox/greasemonkey/phpbb.ignore.user.js

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Clicking the little X by people's names adds them to your ignore list. The button can be clicked again at any time to take them off it again. In addition, a button will appear on all ignored users posts allowing you to reveal the content of that particular post temporarily, if desired. Otherwise, you will be able to see that they have posted but the actual text is removed.

Looks like a pretty easy solution for those using Firefox 1.5 or 2.0.   So there ya go.



I use Firefox, so this is pretty nice. Thanks for the heads up.

Credit goes to Padre on this one. smile 
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