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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2006, 03:10:20 PM »

I agree, with all her money, I wouldn't mind being Oprah's pet either.
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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2006, 04:47:46 PM »

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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2006, 01:06:58 PM »

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No BC update until March, because the team was on vacation for pretty much all of January, then it would take some time to get the emulator to work on some of these other games.

It's show #154 and is really very imformative about the whole BC process.


Hmm - I just listened to that and I'm sorry but I didn't hear anything like the "whole team took January off" and "no BC updates till March".

What I heard David (BC manager) say was that there wouldn't be another update in december as they had a bunch of team members taking vacation for the holidays ( so we're talking christmas / new years ).

Then a few minutes later major nelson said that people were excited about the clancy games in the december update as they were afraid that they would have to wait until March.

So it just seems like too much of stretch for me to interpret it that way.


You were saying.....

It's March now, and no updates, just like I said.  Tongue
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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2006, 01:13:04 PM »

It's only March 1st.  slywink  Yeesh, give them some time.

I suspect the time since the last bc update was spent working with Xbox1 devs to get their games to be easily compatable with the 360.  Since these games are releasing after the 360's release, it's more important to have them backwards compatable as a show of support for older Xbox1 users.

Of course, that's just me reasoning things out, it remains to be seen if the BC department will be that reasonable.
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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2006, 01:31:43 PM »

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It's only March 1st.  slywink  Yeesh, give them some time.

I suspect the time since the last bc update was spent working with Xbox1 devs to get their games to be easily compatable with the 360.  Since these games are releasing after the 360's release, it's more important to have them backwards compatable as a show of support for older Xbox1 users.

Of course, that's just me reasoning things out, it remains to be seen if the BC department will be that reasonable.


Oh I know, I expect one to be out this month. My point was that there would be no updates until March, which was true. smile
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« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2006, 06:03:55 PM »

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No BC update until March, because the team was on vacation for pretty much all of January, then it would take some time to get the emulator to work on some of these other games.

It's show #154 and is really very imformative about the whole BC process.


Hmm - I just listened to that and I'm sorry but I didn't hear anything like the "whole team took January off" and "no BC updates till March".

What I heard David (BC manager) say was that there wouldn't be another update in december as they had a bunch of team members taking vacation for the holidays ( so we're talking christmas / new years ).

Then a few minutes later major nelson said that people were excited about the clancy games in the december update as they were afraid that they would have to wait until March.

So it just seems like too much of stretch for me to interpret it that way.


You were saying.....

It's March now, and no updates, just like I said.  Tongue


Well technically i was still right too.  i never said that there wouldn't be any updates till march - just that it didn't sound like the sound-bite on the podcast was enough proof to substantiate that hypothesis.   Tongue

But really? Wouldn't you have rather been wrong?  I know I've been hitting that damn web page several times a week hoping they would release something.

Oh well at least GRAW and Burnout arrive next week  smile
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« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2006, 06:14:56 PM »

Hetz, were you staring at the calendar all last month breathless with anticipation for making this bump? You goober.  Tongue
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« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2006, 08:38:10 PM »

+1 on the goober comment. slywink
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« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2006, 11:18:03 PM »

+1
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« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2006, 11:36:15 PM »

I'm really suprised they didn't BC Black by now.  Anybody have any insight on whether it will part of the next batch?
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« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2006, 11:51:46 PM »

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Hetz, were you staring at the calendar all last month breathless with anticipation for making this bump? You goober.  Tongue


You know it!  :twisted:
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« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2006, 11:53:15 PM »

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No BC update until March, because the team was on vacation for pretty much all of January, then it would take some time to get the emulator to work on some of these other games.

It's show #154 and is really very imformative about the whole BC process.


Hmm - I just listened to that and I'm sorry but I didn't hear anything like the "whole team took January off" and "no BC updates till March".

What I heard David (BC manager) say was that there wouldn't be another update in december as they had a bunch of team members taking vacation for the holidays ( so we're talking christmas / new years ).

Then a few minutes later major nelson said that people were excited about the clancy games in the december update as they were afraid that they would have to wait until March.

So it just seems like too much of stretch for me to interpret it that way.


You were saying.....

It's March now, and no updates, just like I said.  Tongue


Well technically i was still right too.  i never said that there wouldn't be any updates till march - just that it didn't sound like the sound-bite on the podcast was enough proof to substantiate that hypothesis.   Tongue

But really? Wouldn't you have rather been wrong?  I know I've been hitting that damn web page several times a week hoping they would release something.

Oh well at least GRAW and Burnout arrive next week  smile


Oh I really wished I was wrong. I think that they have done a very poor job with the whole BC thing. They need to get some more games, ASAP on that list.
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« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2006, 05:53:46 AM »

I agree, they are kind of screwing the pooch with this right now.
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« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2006, 04:04:19 AM »

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If Hetz hadn't done it, I would have, but I would have posted in purple, which would make me goober grape.
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« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2006, 04:19:17 PM »

My 360 forced a download yesterday. I wonder why...

I DID just connect my wireless adapter though, so it could be a driver thing.
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« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2006, 05:38:01 PM »

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My 360 forced a download yesterday. I wonder why...

I DID just connect my wireless adapter though, so it could be a driver thing.


There was some kind of update yesterday-  I had to do it too.
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« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2006, 06:14:19 PM »

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It's like getting your PC games to play on your microwave oven.


Hot damn!  Apparently we can get PC games to play on our microwaves!  Some of them at least.   :twisted:

In all seriousness, I think that you're exaggerating a wee bit, but overall yes, since the 360 wasn't hardcoded to run the original X-Box software, then it's much more challenging to get those games to run on a 360 than it was to run PS1 games on a PS2 (since the PS2 was coded from the get-go to run in PS1 "mode")

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I think the bottom line for them is that they realize it's an important feature to add value to the machine, but one would be very hard-pressed to argue that it would help them sell more units at this point smile


Seeing as I've already purchased a 360, I must agree.  That said, BC is a HUGE positive mark for me, and I'm fairly anxious for them to get on the ball with this.  I'd like to be able to get my X-Box out of the mess of wires I currently have.  slywink
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« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2006, 06:40:56 PM »

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I'm really suprised they didn't BC Black by now.  Anybody have any insight on whether it will part of the next batch?


1Up had a news story about Alex Ward from Criterion begging MS to make Black and Burnout BC but didn't have a conclusive answer on to whether it will happen.
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« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2006, 08:21:41 PM »

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(since the PS2 was coded from the get-go to run in PS1 "mode")

Actually, there is a PS1 chip inside the PS2 that runs all the PS1 code.  Sony used a hardware solution for backwards compatibility, something that MS really isn't able to do.
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« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2006, 08:46:15 PM »

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I think the bottom line for them is that they realize it's an important feature to add value to the machine, but one would be very hard-pressed to argue that it would help them sell more units at this point smile


Seeing as I've already purchased a 360, I must agree.  That said, BC is a HUGE positive mark for me, and I'm fairly anxious for them to get on the ball with this.  I'd like to be able to get my X-Box out of the mess of wires I currently have.  slywink


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« Reply #60 on: March 03, 2006, 08:48:29 PM »

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(since the PS2 was coded from the get-go to run in PS1 "mode")

Actually, there is a PS1 chip inside the PS2 that runs all the PS1 code.  Sony used a hardware solution for backwards compatibility, something that MS really isn't able to do.

Well, I knew that, but I guess I didn't type it all out that accurately (referring to the PS2 as "coded" when I guess "modded/chipped" would've been a better way to phrase it).
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« Reply #61 on: March 03, 2006, 08:59:00 PM »

I suspect those tiny playstations they release nearing the end of the system's lifespan ends up being the part of the hardware that they include in the next generation.
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« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2006, 05:31:13 AM »

My fear is that this recent forced update is like a PSP update, and is just countering the recent strides in hacking (which would eventually alllow me to move my xbox saves to the 360-frankly, key for me).
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« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2006, 10:29:46 PM »

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

Suddenly, the list says updated Feb 06?  I can't see anything new, though, and it's March.

EDIT: Apparently, they added one of the Cabella hunting games.  And pretended they did it in February.
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« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2006, 03:23:02 AM »

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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

Suddenly, the list says updated Feb 06?  I can't see anything new, though, and it's March.

EDIT: Apparently, they added one of the Cabella hunting games.  And pretended they did it in February.

Cabella hunting game? ROFLMAO Good thing we have that one covered.
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« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2006, 01:05:09 PM »

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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

Suddenly, the list says updated Feb 06?  I can't see anything new, though, and it's March.

EDIT: Apparently, they added one of the Cabella hunting games.  And pretended they did it in February.


Wow! That was SOOO worth the 3 month wait!!!!  :roll:

This is just pathetic, MS. Come on.
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« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2006, 01:02:16 AM »

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

Black, Star Wars: Battlefront 2 and Winning Eleven 9 are now Backwords Compatable

Now, that's a little better MS.
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« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2006, 01:16:59 AM »

http://www.gamingtrend.com/News/index.php#5334

Looks like Hetz and I discovered it about the same time. I just finished posting about it on the main site and came in here to link to it only to have my thunder stolen here.

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« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2006, 01:46:32 AM »

Tongue

Also, you can add this to your news post....

Here are the titles that were already on the list that received updates:

Updated:
Darkwatch™
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas™
Half-Life® 2
Fable®
Fable®: The Lost Chapters™
Forza Motorsport™
Ninja Gaiden®
Ninja Gaiden® Black
SSX 3
Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell® Chaos Theory™
kill.switch
World Series Baseball® 2K3
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« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2006, 01:53:32 AM »

WINNING ELEVEN!  THANK GOODNESS, I was going to come in here and complain biggrin
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« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2006, 02:26:00 AM »

Black and Battlefront II were two I were hoping for.

Now just let me move my save games.
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« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2006, 02:39:37 AM »

I have an Xbox USB memory card if you're interested... smile Mega-X-Key. PM me if you're interested, bullwinkle.
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« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2006, 03:42:15 AM »

Are Ninja Gaiden and Forza playable now?
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« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2006, 06:04:13 AM »

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Are Ninja Gaiden and Forza playable now?

I have the same question. Well, just Ninja Gaiden, but my point still stands.

If I could only drag myself away from Oblivion to check... biggrin
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« Reply #74 on: March 30, 2006, 06:12:15 AM »

Thanks, Purge.  I have the mega x-key (or I did, I misplaced the part that goes into the Xbox), but it does no good.  You can't transfer saves without some complicated procedure that I'm worried is going to bring Microsoft's wrath down upon me.

Oh, and I played Battlefront II first.  Locked up on me in my first game.  I laughed for quite a while.  Everything has worked fine since then, though.

And Black looks and plays amazing on 360.  It's like it was meant for it.
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« Reply #75 on: March 30, 2006, 04:04:48 PM »

Unless there's something I don't know?  Has anyone been able to move their saves?
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« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2006, 11:43:47 PM »

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Are Ninja Gaiden and Forza playable now?

I have the same question. Well, just Ninja Gaiden, but my point still stands.

If I could only drag myself away from Oblivion to check... biggrin


Well, I checked... original Ninja Gaiden works okay.  Didn't notice any terrible slowdown, and had no trouble beating boss #1 on the first run through the level, so it seems to be working now.

Haven't checked Forza though, which is a bigger concern to me.
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