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« on: November 14, 2004, 08:27:52 AM »

should be here next week!  Anyone know what I need to plug it into a VGA monitor?  I've seen a lot of universal VGA adapter that supposedly detects higher resolution from 640x480 to 1024x768....is that what I want?  How do you get the xbox to display in high resolution?  THANSK!
 

So excited smile  Have to get HALO 2, must resist the urge smile  (at least until I get paid)
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2004, 03:14:46 PM »

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So excited smile  Have to get HALO 2, must resist the urge smile  (at least until I get paid)


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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2004, 07:17:53 PM »

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should be here next week!  Anyone know what I need to plug it into a VGA monitor?  I've seen a lot of universal VGA adapter that supposedly detects higher resolution from 640x480 to 1024x768....is that what I want?  How do you get the xbox to display in high resolution?  THANSK!


The very best VGA adapter is here:  www.x2vga.com

It only will work with progressive scan games (which is 95% of them anyway).  The end result is you get the HIGH DEF version of the game on your computer monitor.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2004, 08:51:09 PM »

$65!!!  Crap  :?   What's the 2nd best??  Any advice for how to run xbox on vga monitor would be very appreciated.   biggrin
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2004, 10:50:40 PM »

Maybe this is a silly question, but how do you get sound when you hook it up to a vga monitor?  I'm technically inept, and had wondered about hooking my xbox up to my computer and or monitor, but the sound issue confused me.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2004, 11:21:27 PM »

As  I understand it...the VGA adapter will have a stereo out connection.  I have a Blaze VGA box for my dreamcast.  I plug that into the xbox's connector and I plug the box into the VGA monitor and I use the headphone out to a couple of speaker.  i think the Xbox ones work the same way...but I haven't seen how to exactly do this...except for the X2VGA, but I can't spend that and then get halo 2 frown  Also still not sure what X2VGA and X2VGA+ differences are....anyone?
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2004, 03:52:31 AM »

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As  I understand it...the VGA adapter will have a stereo out connection.  I have a Blaze VGA box for my dreamcast.  I plug that into the xbox's connector and I plug the box into the VGA monitor and I use the headphone out to a couple of speaker.  i think the Xbox ones work the same way...but I haven't seen how to exactly do this...except for the X2VGA, but I can't spend that and then get halo 2 frown  Also still not sure what X2VGA and X2VGA+ differences are....anyone?


The original X2VGA (the one I have) doesn't have pass thru for audio and video.  I have to use a KVM switch.  The newer one (with the +) lets you hook up your computer through it so no separate switch is needed.

As far as $65-  It's actually a great deal.  Before this came out, if you wanted to convert the high-def signal to VGA, you had to buy a device that was $300!  Don't skimp and get one of the $30 cheapies.  They look like absolute garbage.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2004, 04:04:42 PM »

Small nitpick -

480p (which is the highest resolution of most Xbox games) is not "high definition" smile 720p/1080i is, but very few Xbox games support those higher resolutions.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2004, 05:06:53 PM »

OK...found something else called a ZD-V3 - anyone heard of this one?
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2004, 05:55:24 PM »

Is there anything like this for the PS2?
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2004, 07:43:20 PM »

ED X!  Cool found your way here I see.  smile  Also, how about for the Game Cube?  smile  Would be cool to play on my 21 inch monitor so as to not tie up the tv.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2004, 09:31:16 PM »

Greetz EX and DZ....nice to see you both.

I've seen some other 3rd party VGA adapters that claim to work on PS2 and GC...but the reason I wanted one for the Xbox is to take advantage of the 480p, 720, and 1080i modes....I have the link at home, and I'll post the info for PS2/GC here tonight.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2004, 12:20:14 PM »

OK...here's a listing of some:  click here  

There are a lot other ones too.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2004, 12:35:02 PM »

OK, more information for the crowd here....Most of the devices listed in the link above is called a De-Interlacer, which takes an NTSC or PAL interlaced image coverts it to something that a computer monitor can display.  So basically, it does not support the high resolution images that an xbox can display. So if you want an image on your monitor - not high resolution, a De-Interlacer type box would work fine...it would look similar to your TV.

The ZD-V3 (from VDigi) and X2VGA are Transcoders.  They take the HDTV signals from the XBox and converts it to the PC equivalent.  The HDTV signals are already non-interlaced HIGH resolution.  Thus you would get a true high resolution signals....bottom line....the xbox games would look very sweet.

Now, if I can only scrap up enough $$....doh! smile
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2004, 12:43:18 PM »

The ZD-V3 manufacturer's website has some pictures for the (480 and 720)Xbox, GC and PS2...as shown below.  They claim that the GC and PS2 are in 480p mode.  Their website is http://www.vdigi.com

Xbox in 480:


Xbox in 720:



GC in 480:


PS2 in 480:


See the difference?
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2004, 06:37:34 PM »

Hmmm....
Maybe my TV isn't so bad after all?
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2004, 08:22:50 PM »

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Hmmm....
Maybe my TV isn't so bad after all?


eh???  the graphics are so much better on the vga monitor!  I'm pretty close to making a decision...and I think I'm going with the VDigi device - so that it can work with any other device smile
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2004, 10:32:45 PM »

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eh???  the graphics are so much better on the vga monitor!  I'm pretty close to making a decision...and I think I'm going with the VDigi device - so that it can work with any other device smile


Does that one support 480p, 720p, and 1080i like the X2VGA?  Back when I bought one, the X2VGA was the only one that did (short of buying an expensive professional device).
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2004, 12:15:11 AM »

Yes it does support all of those modes (providing that the monitor can handle that.  I like the zd-v3 because of the switches that allows for multiple configuration PLUS it doesn't care if it is an xbox or gamecube or ps2...it can even do progressive scan dvd players!  So for my $$, I think its much more "future" compatible....the x2vga+ can only do xbox.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2004, 07:37:13 PM »

The price, Zero! The price!
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2004, 09:33:39 PM »

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The price, Zero! The price!

$56.90 + $13 shipping.  Yeesh, do people not know how to go to websites on their own?!  Tongue

BTW, to those who have tried the ZD-V3: how does it handle 480i?  There's a review on Team Xbox which obliquely mentions a 480i mode, but doesn't explain what it does; while the VDigi website seems to state it doesn't support 480i.  Can the ZD-V3 convert 480i to a VGA-friendly signal?
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2004, 10:46:53 PM »

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The price, Zero! The price!

$56.90 + $13 shipping.  Yeesh, do people not know how to go to websites on their own?!  Tongue

BTW, to those who have tried the ZD-V3: how does it handle 480i?  There's a review on Team Xbox which obliquely mentions a 480i mode, but doesn't explain what it does; while the VDigi website seems to state it doesn't support 480i.  Can the ZD-V3 convert 480i to a VGA-friendly signal?


LOL-I think Eduardo was saying that he will stick with the TV because of the price smile

AS for the 480i...the only two time that you need that on the xbox is for the dash and for games that are ONLY 480i.  For the first..the dash...there is an upgrade of the dash, so it is now in 480p (see the vdigi site, under their support forum to enable it).  The second...there's only a handful of games that are in 480i only I think this site has a listing of them: http://www.hdtvarcade.com/

The X2VGA handles the 480i not well either...it basically has a button that lets you toggle back and forth on the 480i screen for the dash.  The best solution I heard was from that vdigi support site and use the 480p mode for the dash.  Both x2vga and zd-v3 does not support 480i games.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2004, 08:57:21 AM »

Yeah, the price is steep.
I bout my TV for $120. A $56 adapter just isn't worth it, in my mind. I could buy several games for that price.
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2004, 02:16:41 PM »

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Small nitpick -

480p (which is the highest resolution of most Xbox games) is not "high definition" smile 720p/1080i is, but very few Xbox games support those higher resolutions.


30+ 720p titles.

Amped 2   720p   -
Blood Rayne 2   720p   -
Conflict Vietnam   720p   -
Disney Extreme Skatboarding   720p   -
Dragon Lair 3d   720p   1080i
Dukes of Hazzard - Return of the General Lee   720p   -
Enter the Matrix   720p   1080i
ESPN Major League Baseball 2K4   720p   
ESPN NBA Basketball   720p   
Freedom Fighters   720p   -
MVP Baseball 2004   720p   -
MX Unleashed   720p   1080i
NBA 2K3   720p   -
NBA Ballers   720p   
SCALER   720p   
SegaGT Online   720p   -
Soul Calibur II   720p   -
Spongebob Square Pants:The Movie   720p   
Steel Battalion:Line of Contact   720p   -
Street Hoops   720p   -
Syberia   720p   1080i
The Sims: Bustin out   720p   -
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4   720p   -
Tony Hawk: Underground   720p   -
Tony Hawk's Underground 2   720p   -
True Crime Streets of LA   720p   
World Series Baseball 2k3   720p   
X-Men Legends   720p   -

you can check out the HDGames.net site as well.

Consolegold also has this same functionality, but they're still missing some info. <shrug>
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2004, 03:30:57 PM »

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Small nitpick -

480p (which is the highest resolution of most Xbox games) is not "high definition" smile 720p/1080i is, but very few Xbox games support those higher resolutions.


30+ 720p titles.

Amped 2   720p   -
Blood Rayne 2   720p   -
Conflict Vietnam   720p   -
Disney Extreme Skatboarding   720p   -
Dragon Lair 3d   720p   1080i
Dukes of Hazzard - Return of the General Lee   720p   -
Enter the Matrix   720p   1080i
ESPN Major League Baseball 2K4   720p   
ESPN NBA Basketball   720p   
Freedom Fighters   720p   -
MVP Baseball 2004   720p   -
MX Unleashed   720p   1080i
NBA 2K3   720p   -
NBA Ballers   720p   
SCALER   720p   
SegaGT Online   720p   -
Soul Calibur II   720p   -
Spongebob Square Pants:The Movie   720p   
Steel Battalion:Line of Contact   720p   -
Street Hoops   720p   -
Syberia   720p   1080i
The Sims: Bustin out   720p   -
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 4   720p   -
Tony Hawk: Underground   720p   -
Tony Hawk's Underground 2   720p   -
True Crime Streets of LA   720p   
World Series Baseball 2k3   720p   
X-Men Legends   720p   -

you can check out the HDGames.net site as well.

Consolegold also has this same functionality, but they're still missing some info. <shrug>


Wow - I didn't realize there were that many... last time I checked there were only a handful.  But my main point stands - most games only support 480p, which isn't "high def" smile
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