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« on: September 21, 2006, 09:53:58 PM »

Wonder what you'll be spending on your Wii?

http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2440
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2006, 10:11:41 PM »

wow $568.34 for me for wii with extra remote\nunchuk and retro remote and 4 games. Also they dont have a tax option as high as the tax in Houston (8.25%)

I might have to cut down on launch games to make it more reasonable, but its still less than a PS3
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2006, 10:16:58 PM »

$449.30

1 complete controller, 2 games and 2000.00 wii points + tax.

I hope to have about 200.00 in BB gift certs, so that'll bring it back down to retail price for the system.

Modify. Might pick up a 3rd game, but Wii'll see.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2006, 10:29:19 PM »

$388.47

Just the Wii, Rayman, Zelda, and 2000 Wii Points for me. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2006, 10:46:49 PM »

Jesus, I only see 1 game that remotely interests me in their listing.  saywhat
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2006, 11:34:54 PM »

Quote from: Kobra on September 21, 2006, 10:46:49 PM

Jesus, I only see 1 game that remotely interests me in their listing.  saywhat
Same here
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2006, 11:36:05 PM »

Hmm. I hate to admit this, but I may be having second thoughts...  icon_frown
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2006, 12:33:42 AM »

$383.36.  Not too shabby!
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2006, 12:35:28 AM »

$445.03 for the console, an extra remote/nunchuk, and Zelda + Red Steel. 

Man, I can't wait.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2006, 12:38:03 AM »

$329.34 (extra controllers & 2 games). Cables are missing from the list (I believe you need to purchase the component cables separate) which will be an additional cost on top of this.

Things add up pretty quickly for any console release once you factor in all the extras so its not too surprising but nice to be able to prepare a bit better for the hit.

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2006, 12:41:25 AM »

I won't bother with the calculator since it doesn't have component cables on it, but here is what I plan to (try to) buy on launch day.

Wii
Zelda
2nd Wiimote (probably will hold off on 2nd nunchuck for now)
Component cables

I hope Costco will have some sort of cool bundle on launch day that might get me the 2nd controller for a deal... we'll see.

Other launch games are slightly possible (Madden, Red Steel, etc.) but I will be watching for reviews first.

I am VERY bummed out that Metroid Prime 3 got delayed. My excitement for the Wii has diminished greatly since that announcement, though I am sure Zelda will be awesome.
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2006, 12:59:40 AM »

Quote from: JCC on September 22, 2006, 12:41:25 AM

I am VERY bummed out that Metroid Prime 3 got delayed. My excitement for the Wii has diminished greatly since that announcement, though I am sure Zelda will be awesome.

Yeah, I'm disappointed in that too but, honestly, Zelda will be enough for me for quite a while.  As long as we get Metroid or Super Mario Galaxy around Spring-ish, I'll probably be pretty happy. 
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2006, 01:11:21 AM »

$644.70

The system, two extra controllers w/ nunchucks, Excite Truck, Rayman, Red Steel, Trauma Center, and Zelda.

That's IF I actually get one at launch. I most likely won't.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2006, 01:32:23 AM »

What do component cables run these days? Best place to buy em? 
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2006, 01:45:14 AM »

I think I might delay the Wii purchase until their library is up to snuff, right now it just isn't enough with only 1 game on the list I would want.  Also, Rumor has it (Costco electronics manager hotty chick I talked to today) is that Costcos "Bundle" deal will likely be a Zelda-Pack w/extra controller and component cables.  I definately want to see what they come up with for that.

Not to mention I just picked up that fairly rare Zelda Collectors Edition for GameCube.  The collectors edition for the cube comes with;

# The Legend of Zelda (based on the Japanese cartridge version)
# Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
# The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
# The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

THAT should keep me Zelda crazy for awhile, and I still need to finish Windwalker

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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2006, 01:56:07 AM »

$411.80 (console, Zelda, Red Steel, Retro Controller, 2000 Wii Points, and Arizona sales tax).
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2006, 02:22:15 AM »

Mine calculations come out to... just about $0.  At least until I see a game I want to play that convinces me the controls couldn't be as good or better on a standard controller.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2006, 02:29:01 AM »

577 and some change, I will however want to see what Costco comes up with smile , On my list of things I know I'd get however;

Console
Extra Remote and Nunchuk(hoping we get the Mini-game collection with a remote)
Classic Controller
GT Pro Series <-- comes with Wheel attachment! and I like the look of the game
Excite Truck
Zelda
Red Steel
2000 points(hoping they do the 5000 points + classic controller)

I Am interested in Call of Duty 3, Far Cry, Rayman and Trauma Center. Not to mention, Metal Slug and a couple of other "launch window" games


Do I really want to spend that much? No. So I will probably trade in a ton of stuff now that Ebgames has extended the trade 3 get an extra $10 deal. I've got two gamecubes I'll trade in and a bunch of games I am trying to punch through so I can clean out the library. I may even go on Half.com, here or Ebay and sell some of the rarer games I've found that I am not really playing.
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2006, 02:43:55 AM »

Quote from: ATB on September 22, 2006, 01:32:23 AM

What do component cables run these days? Best place to buy em? 

Unless something changes dramatically, the component cables for Wii will be proprietary.  Expect $30-40 for "official" cables.  Hopefully this time around the cables are not only available in stores (Cube component cables could only be purchased through Nintendo's website) but maybe Nintendo will allow third parties to make 'em too (and probably cheaper!).  But, at launch, just expect the Nintendo branded cables. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2006, 02:49:47 AM »

Well you can finally get third party component Gamecube cables, only 5 years too late. I believe Madcatz makes a set that fits the PS2, Xbox and Cube... I would expect Component cables to be $30 bucks or less. We can only pray that they are available at retail.
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2006, 04:14:30 AM »

Wrt the cables, Nintendo's been pretty good about using the same type of port for various things across different consoles.  It's entirely possible that the Wii will be able to use the component cables from the Cube.  Doesn't help you if you don't have them now, but for those of us that do, it will be a help.

Has there been some announcement about what games are going to use the nunchuck controller?  I see a lot of people planning on buying extra Wiimotes w/nunchucks, but all the multiplayer gaming I've seen has just used the Wiimote itself.  I'm not planning on buying any extra nunchucks until I have a reason to spend an extra $20 a shot.

Also, everyone should be getting Trauma Center.  It rules.
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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2006, 10:59:19 AM »

Quote from: Chaz on September 22, 2006, 04:14:30 AM

Wrt the cables, Nintendo's been pretty good about using the same type of port for various things across different consoles.  It's entirely possible that the Wii will be able to use the component cables from the Cube.  Doesn't help you if you don't have them now, but for those of us that do, it will be a help.

I'm guessing that Nintendo will do this. They've used the same video cables (if you were just using S-Video) since the SNES era, and I'm guessing that odds are it'll be the same video cables this time around too.
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2006, 11:33:49 AM »

hate to break some hearts but NO they won't be using the same cables. The port is completely different now, and it's a multi-out port so all cables will have to have Audio on them as well. Matt at IGN-Wii has already confirmed that it is not the same port.
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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2006, 12:25:53 PM »

How far into a launch does Costco typically come up with one of their stellar bundles?  Will any bundles from them be available at launch?
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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2006, 03:58:22 PM »

Dumb question: Will the Wii support HD?  I checked the hardware link on their site, and it just said component, composite, and s-video outputs are supported.  Does component = HD? 
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2006, 04:03:09 PM »

Quote from: Roguetad on September 22, 2006, 03:58:22 PM

Dumb question: Will the Wii support HD?  I checked the hardware link on their site, and it just said component, composite, and s-video outputs are supported.  Does component = HD? 
Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2006, 04:56:16 PM »

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Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 

....which is pathetic in this day and age.
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2006, 05:04:50 PM »

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Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 

....which is pathetic in this day and age.

Ack, that sucks.  I was seriously considering pre-ordering, but not if it doesn't support HD.  I don't think I could go back to playing games at 480p after seeing the glory of 720p and 1080i gaming on my LCD tv. 
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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2006, 05:18:30 PM »

Quote from: Roguetad on September 22, 2006, 05:04:50 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 22, 2006, 04:56:16 PM

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Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 

....which is pathetic in this day and age.

Ack, that sucks.  I was seriously considering pre-ordering, but not if it doesn't support HD.  I don't think I could go back to playing games at 480p after seeing the glory of 720p and 1080i gaming on my LCD tv. 

And here we are again...
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2006, 05:26:19 PM »

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Quote from: Roguetad on September 22, 2006, 05:04:50 PM

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Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 

....which is pathetic in this day and age.

Ack, that sucks.  I was seriously considering pre-ordering, but not if it doesn't support HD.  I don't think I could go back to playing games at 480p after seeing the glory of 720p and 1080i gaming on my LCD tv. 

And here we are again...

I'm a little slow on the uptake regarding the Wii.  I didn't know it was only 480p.  I was actually planning on trading in my psp + games to preorder and hopefully payoff most of the balance.   
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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2006, 05:37:59 PM »

Quote from: Roguetad on September 22, 2006, 05:26:19 PM

Quote from: ATB on September 22, 2006, 05:18:30 PM

Quote from: Roguetad on September 22, 2006, 05:04:50 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 22, 2006, 04:56:16 PM

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Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 

....which is pathetic in this day and age.

Ack, that sucks.  I was seriously considering pre-ordering, but not if it doesn't support HD.  I don't think I could go back to playing games at 480p after seeing the glory of 720p and 1080i gaming on my LCD tv. 

And here we are again...

I'm a little slow on the uptake regarding the Wii.  I didn't know it was only 480p.  I was actually planning on trading in my psp + games to preorder and hopefully payoff most of the balance.   

No no... it wasn't anything like that. It's just there was a pretty heated thread re: not wanting a wii cause it wasn't in HD...
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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2006, 10:04:14 PM »

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Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 

....which is pathetic in this day and age.

Not really, considering I would bet only a tiny percentage of their target audience even has HD. Even today, only about 1 out of every 4 TV's sold is HD (according to HD Magazine).  I would bet a good portion of Nintendos target plays on smaller TV's in the kids bedrooms or something.

The magical pricepoint for me will be in the $500 range for a 40"ish LCD TV before I take the plunge and even then, it will require one of my existing CRT TV's to DIE before I replace it, I certainly wouldn't make the upgrade for the sake of making the upgrade, especially when I am too cheap to subscribe to overpriced HD-Cable we have around here.  I figure another 2 years at the earliest, I saw a wonderful looking 42" LCD TV in Costco yesterday for $1099.00 so the prices are definately falling!  But thats about $500 more than I would consider spending, I love the picture on my 32" and 35" CRT's, no hurry to change that!
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2006, 01:11:29 PM »

seeing as how you can play GC games on the Wii..what are they taking these days for a trade-in for a GC?  I doubt it is that much, but there is no real point in keeping it. 

Also..are you able to play dvd's on the wii?

I'm so confused with the need for all these different controllers..what i need to play Zelda comes with the system right?

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2006, 01:17:35 PM »

Quote from: weleavefossils on September 23, 2006, 01:11:29 PM

Also..are you able to play dvd's on the wii?

I'm so confused with the need for all these different controllers..what i need to play Zelda comes with the system right?
You can't play DVDs, and the Wii comes with a remote and nunchuck so you're all set to play Zelda.
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2006, 01:57:27 PM »

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Nope.  480p max support for Wii. 

....which is pathetic in this day and age.

Not really, considering I would bet only a tiny percentage of their target audience even has HD. Even today, only about 1 out of every 4 TV's sold is HD (according to HD Magazine).  I would bet a good portion of Nintendos target plays on smaller TV's in the kids bedrooms or something.

The magical pricepoint for me will be in the $500 range for a 40"ish LCD TV before I take the plunge and even then, it will require one of my existing CRT TV's to DIE before I replace it, I certainly wouldn't make the upgrade for the sake of making the upgrade, especially when I am too cheap to subscribe to overpriced HD-Cable we have around here.  I figure another 2 years at the earliest, I saw a wonderful looking 42" LCD TV in Costco yesterday for $1099.00 so the prices are definately falling!  But thats about $500 more than I would consider spending, I love the picture on my 32" and 35" CRT's, no hurry to change that!

25% of the market and RISING you mean to say.  Why not target that audience?  If you have HD, we have you covered.  If you don't, got that covered too.  It seems completely foolish and arrogant to walk past a forward-looking technology that costs very little to impliment.  They don't have to go 1080p, but 720p would have made a whole lot of sense. 
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2006, 02:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on September 23, 2006, 01:57:27 PM

25% of the market and RISING you mean to say.  Why not target that audience?  If you have HD, we have you covered.  If you don't, got that covered too.  It seems completely foolish and arrogant to walk past a forward-looking technology that costs very little to impliment.  They don't have to go 1080p, but 720p would have made a whole lot of sense. 

The cost to implement is a lot more than you think.  The ability to output an HD signal is nothing, but the additional CPU and GPU hardware required to output the same visuals at higher resolutions is substantial.  Sure you could put an external scaler on it but that stilll isn't that cheap and it isn't the same as games that ouput with higher resolutions natively. 

Go from 480p (640x480) to 720p (1280x720) and you are almost trippling the number of pixels that have to be displayed.  Hell, some 360 games chug at 720p but have rock solid framerates if you change to 480p instead. 
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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2006, 02:36:44 PM »

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25% of the market and RISING you mean to say.  Why not target that audience?  If you have HD, we have you covered.  If you don't, got that covered too.  It seems completely foolish and arrogant to walk past a forward-looking technology that costs very little to impliment.  They don't have to go 1080p, but 720p would have made a whole lot of sense. 

The cost to implement is a lot more than you think.  The ability to output an HD signal is nothing, but the additional CPU and GPU hardware required to output the same visuals at higher resolutions is substantial.  Sure you could put an external scaler on it but that stilll isn't that cheap and it isn't the same as games that ouput with higher resolutions natively. 

Go from 480p (640x480) to 720p (1280x720) and you are almost trippling the number of pixels that have to be displayed.  Hell, some 360 games chug at 720p but have rock solid framerates if you change to 480p instead. 

As somebody who plays PC games at resolutions that club 480p, 720p, and 1080p like a baby seal, I just can't imagine that the cost would be that high.  Processing power and RAM are cheap, and the GPU used in the Wii has enough horses to handle a 720p maximum.  Hell, my dell PDA has enough power to handle 480p - simply put, they could do better if they wanted to.  In a related note, I wonder what the adoption rate of HD is in Japan...
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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2006, 03:04:03 PM »

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As somebody who plays PC games at resolutions that club 480p, 720p, and 1080p like a baby seal, I just can't imagine that the cost would be that high.  Processing power and RAM are cheap, and the GPU used in the Wii has enough horses to handle a 720p maximum

What PC resolution clubs 1080p (1920x1080) like a baby seal? (I'm not disputing that there are higher resolutions, just the hyperbole of your statement). And any PC that can run a modern game smoothly higher than 1920x1080 is using a GPU that probably costs more than the entire Wii itself.   RAM is cheap?  Then why are both PS3 and 360 limited to just 512 MB? Why aren't most 360 games internally rendered to 1080i instead of 720p then? Why is PGR3 internally rendered to less than 720p if all this stuff is so cheap?  No one is using off the shelf PC parts this time around so almost everything they are using is custom designed and fabricated.   


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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2006, 03:47:34 PM »

Pst. 25% is not very many people. Rising, yes. But over the course of what? 3 years? 5 years? 10 years?

Nintendo will roll out an upgraded/updated console with HD when the market research supports that that's what the target audience has.
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2006, 03:51:28 PM »

Quote from: ATB on September 23, 2006, 03:47:34 PM

Nintendo will roll out an upgraded/updated console with HD when the market research supports that that's what the target audience has.

This is exactly what I expect- in two or three years an "Hd Wii" (a la DS Lite and GBA SP) that either has a scaler for upsampling games to 720p/1080i or increased processor power able to internally render the higher resoultions while maintaining everything else the same. 
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