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« on: April 30, 2012, 07:04:55 AM »

So whats the correct cutoff point as to calling a console or piece of technology next gen? I still see some people referring to this generation as next gen. That's plain silly, it's been in or living rooms for years... Any insight on this baffling situation?
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 07:50:44 AM »

It's just because people use words without thinking about their meaning. To most people "next-gen" is just a word like any other. I don't hear people use it about the current generation very often any more, but I make sure to point it out when they do.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 08:22:36 AM »

Yeah, what Tilt said. I also think it depends on the kind of social circles people have. I just call it "current gen" and leave it at that. I consider the Next Gen XBox 720, PS4, and Wii U.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 10:23:04 AM »

There's not much to talk about regarding the actual next-gen consoles, so people keep using "next-gen" to refer to the current generation.  Once there's enough to discuss regarding the PS4, etc. then "next-gen" will slowly shift to refer to those systems.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 11:50:55 AM »

So, anyone else excited about future consoles? At first I thought it would be ho hum, but I got to thinking...

There were a lot of technologies that have come out that are now commonplace, but not so well used.

Stuff like 64 bit architecture, GPU based computing, tesselation, and more.

64 bit has been a slow transition, it's still happening, but imagine console games taking full advantage of that.

The same goes for GPU based computing, aka using the GPU to handle computations other than graphics through custom instructions for the GPU. Doing custom processing work with chips not originally intended to do so is one of the ways that consoles had traditionally seemed to increase in power as the console cycle went along. People would do crazy stuff like use the sound chip to do graphics processing.

Then there's things like additional memory, which is a big limitation on current consoles, which amazingly run on just 512mb.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 07:00:49 PM »

Quote from: EddieA on April 30, 2012, 10:23:04 AM

There's not much to talk about regarding the actual next-gen consoles, so people keep using "next-gen" to refer to the current generation.

Yup, I think we're seeing the term used longer this gen by some gamers because all of the consoles have pushed through the traditional 5 year console gen window. Heck even Ninty missed it for the 1st time in history. I think the stretched life cycle and lack of hype around the next Sony and MS consoles has kept this current gen as more "next gen" for longer than what`s typical. Considering that 1 of the 3 major players released  a console that was behind the tech curve day 1, overall the state of console gaming is far, far away from next gen."  slywink
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 07:03:45 PM »

Amazingly enough, no.

I'm more concerned about the use of drm and dlc to control what is already a closed platform.  I think the value add of the new architectures is not going to be as great as the leap to hd and consumers will lose more options.

CoD X-treme will cost $ 60, will have a 2GB day one patch, multiplayer will be a additional cost(with another 2 GB download) probably include it's own subscription fee, any cool weapons will be available only for a fee and you'll still be paying with the same teenagers.

Ok, maybe I'm a bit jaded, but I'm thinking about skipping the next generation.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 07:04:51 PM »

Quote from: Harpua3 on April 30, 2012, 07:04:55 AM

So whats the correct cutoff point as to calling a console or piece of technology next gen? I still see some people referring to this generation as next gen. That's plain silly, it's been in or living rooms for years... Any insight on this baffling situation?

It's that kind of last-gen thinking that creates confusion.


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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 07:05:48 PM »

Quote from: Harpua3 on April 30, 2012, 07:04:55 AM

So whats the correct cutoff point as to calling a console or piece of technology next gen? I still see some people referring to this generation as next gen. That's plain silly, it's been in or living rooms for years... Any insight on this baffling situation?

Many people still aren't playing on HD sets and I think that really is the reason these are still considered next gen.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 07:05:50 PM »

Quote from: Harpua3 on April 30, 2012, 07:04:55 AM

So whats the correct cutoff point as to calling a console or piece of technology next gen?

you have to wait for the next paradigm shift.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 07:11:59 PM »

I thought people called it "current-gen". Is there someone in particular that's calling it next gen?
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 08:16:15 PM »

When will gen be now?

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