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« on: May 13, 2008, 12:51:03 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abSgaDOv_u4
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 01:01:50 AM »

Thanks for the video!  icon_biggrin
It's so funny!
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 01:03:49 AM »

anyone else remember when SNL used to be funny?
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2008, 01:09:34 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2008, 01:03:49 AM

anyone else remember when SNL used to be funny?

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2008, 01:39:06 AM »

Why are they doing that with their arms?
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2008, 01:47:34 AM »

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Why are they doing that with their arms?

I. Have. No. Idea.  This whole thing makes no sense.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2008, 02:02:32 AM »

Quote from: Eduardo X on May 13, 2008, 01:39:06 AM

Why are they doing that with their arms?

In every single cut scene the in-game models have their hands shaped like they're karate chopping.  The guys are making fun of that.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2008, 02:04:34 AM »

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Quote from: Eduardo X on May 13, 2008, 01:39:06 AM

Why are they doing that with their arms?

I. Have. No. Idea.  This whole thing makes no sense.

Yeah I was a bit* wtf on that one.



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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008, 02:08:02 AM »

Incredibly not funny.

The formula for SNL that I've found is that if Kristin Wiig is in the skit, it's funny.  If not, it's usually shit.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 02:09:41 AM »

I *totally* got the arm thing.  It's been like that in every single GTA game.  it's better in GTA4 but still present. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 02:58:38 AM »

I got it, but thought it was incredibly not funny too. A real missed opportunity. The Daily Show reporting live from Liberty City was much better.

On the bright side, the "murder mystery at the 70s game show" sketch was uncommonly creative. And Leboeuf freakin NAILED Doug Henning. <twinklefingers/mouth the word "magic"> Hilarious.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2008, 03:09:19 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2008, 01:03:49 AM

anyone else remember when SNL used to be funny?

The Hillary Clinton clip to begin the show was pretty good.  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2008, 03:43:40 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2008, 01:03:49 AM

anyone else remember when SNL used to be funny?
Anyone else remember when people didn't just bash SNL because it's a typical thing to do?
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2008, 03:57:59 AM »

I thought it was funny, particularly because two of my cousins have been mocking the animations in GTA since 3 and it reminded me of them  biggrin
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2008, 04:06:09 AM »

Dave Chapelle did it best icon_cool

the SNL skit was way too exaggerated given how much they improved the animation for GTA4...didn't really find it funny at all.  to each his own though...
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2008, 06:27:52 AM »

I didn't laugh. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2008, 12:01:22 PM »

Thank god i can buy the first few seasons of snl on dvd now....
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2008, 12:56:29 PM »

Quote from: rrmorton on May 13, 2008, 02:58:38 AM

I got it, but thought it was incredibly not funny too. A real missed opportunity. The Daily Show reporting live from Liberty City was much better.

On the bright side, the "murder mystery at the 70s game show" sketch was uncommonly creative. And Leboeuf freakin NAILED Doug Henning. <twinklefingers/mouth the word "magic"> Hilarious.

I missed the show and can't find the Henning clip anywhere.  My google-fu fails me. frown

I remember being a fan of Doug Henning as a child even though I saw through a lot of the tricks.  We went to one of his shows when I was <5 and I called him on it and it was a bit embarassing overall smile  He pulled a coin from my ear and I said loudly that I saw it in his hand before.  oops!
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2008, 01:30:39 PM »

That was so unfunny it hurt.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2008, 04:52:11 PM »

Quote from: Harkonis on May 13, 2008, 12:56:29 PM

Quote from: rrmorton on May 13, 2008, 02:58:38 AM

I got it, but thought it was incredibly not funny too. A real missed opportunity. The Daily Show reporting live from Liberty City was much better.

On the bright side, the "murder mystery at the 70s game show" sketch was uncommonly creative. And Leboeuf freakin NAILED Doug Henning. <twinklefingers/mouth the word "magic"> Hilarious.

I missed the show and can't find the Henning clip anywhere.  My google-fu fails me. frown

I remember being a fan of Doug Henning as a child even though I saw through a lot of the tricks.  We went to one of his shows when I was <5 and I called him on it and it was a bit embarassing overall smile  He pulled a coin from my ear and I said loudly that I saw it in his hand before.  oops!

Here go: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=250057

IMO, this is a fantastic sketch.  It helps that I am a huge Match Game fan, but there's so much going on here.

Except, I should point out that the new girl is a scene killer.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2008, 05:08:52 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on May 13, 2008, 03:43:40 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2008, 01:03:49 AM

anyone else remember when SNL used to be funny?
Anyone else remember when people didn't just bash SNL because it's a typical thing to do?

Dude, it's not bashing when the material is shit.
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2008, 05:17:25 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on May 13, 2008, 04:52:11 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on May 13, 2008, 12:56:29 PM

Quote from: rrmorton on May 13, 2008, 02:58:38 AM

I got it, but thought it was incredibly not funny too. A real missed opportunity. The Daily Show reporting live from Liberty City was much better.

On the bright side, the "murder mystery at the 70s game show" sketch was uncommonly creative. And Leboeuf freakin NAILED Doug Henning. <twinklefingers/mouth the word "magic"> Hilarious.

I missed the show and can't find the Henning clip anywhere.  My google-fu fails me. frown

I remember being a fan of Doug Henning as a child even though I saw through a lot of the tricks.  We went to one of his shows when I was <5 and I called him on it and it was a bit embarassing overall smile  He pulled a coin from my ear and I said loudly that I saw it in his hand before.  oops!

Here go: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=250057

IMO, this is a fantastic sketch.  It helps that I am a huge Match Game fan, but there's so much going on here.

Except, I should point out that the new girl is a scene killer.
That's pretty good!
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2008, 05:25:28 PM »

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Here go: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=250057

IMO, this is a fantastic sketch.  It helps that I am a huge Match Game fan, but there's so much going on here.

Except, I should point out that the new girl is a scene killer.
That's pretty good!

MacGruber was pretty good.
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2008, 05:51:20 PM »

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Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2008, 01:03:49 AM

anyone else remember when SNL used to be funny?
Anyone else remember when people didn't just bash SNL because it's a typical thing to do?

Dude, it's not bashing when the material is shit.

I concur.....long gone are the days of Rovco's Super Bass-o-Matic '76. frown
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2008, 06:59:36 PM »

Quote from: Booner on May 13, 2008, 05:51:20 PM

Quote from: rickfc on May 13, 2008, 05:08:52 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on May 13, 2008, 03:43:40 AM

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anyone else remember when SNL used to be funny?
Anyone else remember when people didn't just bash SNL because it's a typical thing to do?

Dude, it's not bashing when the material is shit.

I concur.....long gone are the days of Rovco's Super Bass-o-Matic '76. frown

Go back and watch actual, full episodes of the original cast.  There are just as many clunkers in there as there are now.  Or, perhaps nearly as many, as we were more accepting of the new style they were trying.  There's a lot of stuff that just wouldn't work today.

I have to ask everyone who uniformly bashes SNL what were the last recent episodes you watched.  I find that nearly everyone who rips the show apart watched maybe two sketches a few months back.
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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2008, 07:04:39 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on May 13, 2008, 06:59:36 PM


Go back and watch actual, full episodes of the original cast.  There are just as many clunkers in there as there are now.  Or, perhaps nearly as many, as we were more accepting of the new style they were trying.  There's a lot of stuff that just wouldn't work today.

I have to ask everyone who uniformly bashes SNL what were the last recent episodes you watched.  I find that nearly everyone who rips the show apart watched maybe two sketches a few months back.

The difference being, is that I have tried, on multiple occasions, to watch a full episode of SNL, and get through a quarter of the way, at best, before I turn the TV off in disgust.  And as far as the old stuff is concerned, I used to watch the reruns on Comedy Central and E! almost religiously because they were that good.

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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2008, 07:26:56 PM »

John Belushi vs. Jimmy Fallon...

...sorry, i didn't mean to humiliate some of you.   icon_wink

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no...there's not.  it's not even close. 
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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2008, 07:28:13 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on May 13, 2008, 07:26:56 PM

John Belushi vs. Jimmy Fallon...

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no...there's not.  it's not even close. 

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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2008, 07:47:39 PM »

Quote from: rickfc on May 13, 2008, 07:04:39 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on May 13, 2008, 06:59:36 PM


Go back and watch actual, full episodes of the original cast.  There are just as many clunkers in there as there are now.  Or, perhaps nearly as many, as we were more accepting of the new style they were trying.  There's a lot of stuff that just wouldn't work today.

I have to ask everyone who uniformly bashes SNL what were the last recent episodes you watched.  I find that nearly everyone who rips the show apart watched maybe two sketches a few months back.

The difference being, is that I have tried, on multiple occasions, to watch a full episode of SNL, and get through a quarter of the way, at best, before I turn the TV off in disgust.  And as far as the old stuff is concerned, I used to watch the reruns on Comedy Central and E! almost religiously because they were that good.

Sorry to disappoint.

And those reruns have been edited down to an hour.

Quote from: hepcat on May 13, 2008, 07:26:56 PM

John Belushi vs. Jimmy Fallon...

...sorry, i didn't mean to humiliate some of you.   icon_wink

Jimmy Fallon?  Nice, topical reference.  He hasn't been on the show in four years.  Toss Will Ferrell up agains Belushi, and it comes closer.  I'm talking supporting scene player Ferrell, by the way.  The go-to guy that you could toss into any sketch, and he would make it funnier without stealing focus.  Brilliant as Belushi is (and I put him in the top echelon of all comedians), he was a scene stealer.  For what it's worth, Kristen Wiig is doing the same thing on the show right now.

Don't get me wrong, some of the original cast is on a pedestal for me, too, just by the nature of doing something that had never been done before.  But they also had Lauraine Newman and Garret Morris.

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And those reruns have been edited down to an hour.


You could cut the new stuff down to 30 minutes, and half of it would still be unwatchable.
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« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2008, 07:52:05 PM »

Hell, even Garret Morris was funnier than 90 percent of the "comics" they've employed in the last 10 years on SNL.  He played up the whole "I'm a token cast member" bit and brought true sarcastic humor to racism that pointed a mirror back at the audience in many of his appearances.


I will admit that Ferrell was a diamond in the rough during the last decade or so, but I most definitely view him as the exception to the rule.
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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2008, 07:59:18 PM »

i love SNL(being in the UK,we dont really get that much here)..but as i said on Kotaku when this vid was posted there...bring back chevy chase...the outfits were pretty decent,but i am not sure what was meant to be funny,the whole arm thing i think is more relavant to past GTAs..not this one

they were the best,Akroyd,Belushi and Chase....damn,i miss 'the fall'..and that Samurai chef

recently(well,a while ago),i saw Jimmy Fallon and justin timberlake doing the bee gees on a question show on SNL,that was pretty funny,and of course ...will farrell and christopher walken doing blue oyster cult...'need more cowbell'...that was just f'kn awesome
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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2008, 08:02:05 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on May 13, 2008, 07:52:05 PM

Hell, even Garret Morris was funnier than 90 percent of the "comics" they've employed in the last 10 years on SNL.  He played up the whole "I'm a token cast member" bit and brought true sarcastic humor to racism that pointed a mirror back at the audience in many of his appearances.


I will admit that Ferrell was a diamond in the rough during the last decade or so, but I most definitely view him as the exception to the rule.

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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2008, 08:21:38 PM »

i'll admit i haven't watched an episode in quite a while.  in fact, i would be hard pressed to say what the last bit i watched was about. 

each generation of cast members had their stand outs and their fade outs, even back to the beginning.  of course, you can also call out bits that even the unpopular cast did quite well.  jimmy fallon did a bit on the news sketch as dave matthews i liked, also one parody of a pop song involving skiing down a mountain out of control.  he also had the occasional funny news item.  i wouldn't put him on a talk show by himself though.

most of my favorite cast members through current watching were from the early 90's. i like the old stuff of the 75-80 and 80-84 casts, but i grew up with the 90's group.  farrell, sandler, myers, carvey, rock, schneider, farley, spade, meadows, mcdonald, nealon, hartman.

hell, take a look at the list over on wiki and tell me there aren't more standout cast members from the middle years than the last 10. 
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2008, 08:40:40 PM »

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i'll admit i haven't watched an episode in quite a while.  in fact, i would be hard pressed to say what the last bit i watched was about. 

each generation of cast members had their stand outs and their fade outs, even back to the beginning.  of course, you can also call out bits that even the unpopular cast did quite well.  jimmy fallon did a bit on the news sketch as dave matthews i liked, also one parody of a pop song involving skiing down a mountain out of control.  he also had the occasional funny news item.  i wouldn't put him on a talk show by himself though.

most of my favorite cast members through current watching were from the early 90's. i like the old stuff of the 75-80 and 80-84 casts, but i grew up with the 90's group.  farrell, sandler, myers, carvey, rock, schneider, farley, spade, meadows, mcdonald, nealon, hartman.

hell, take a look at the list over on wiki and tell me there aren't more standout cast members from the middle years than the last 10. 

I don't mean to say that the current eps are better than the first couple of seasons were at their best or even better than the Hartman/Carvey/Hooks years (just that there are more low points in those stellar seasons than people like to remember, and sometimes they were extremely low or they were bits that just would not work today), but it infuriates me the way it gets dismissed out of hand so frequently.  It was a trend that started with the press and has never died.  Even during the Hartman/Carvey/Hooks years, the press was going on and on about the death of SNL.  And it just keeps happening.

I will say that I think most of the current cast is superior to the gang after Hartman, Carvey and Hooks left.  The Farley/Sandler/Spade years.  In fact, the only real problems I have, cast-wise, is that Amy Poehler is in every freakin sketch and is getting tired and the new girl is just awful. 
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2008, 08:43:02 PM »

I will say that Norm McDonald is a god:

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although my favorite moments from his SNL days was his continual tormenting of Chris Kattan (who apparently wasn't too happy about it and still hates the man to this day).  Mean...but freakin' hilarious.

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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2008, 08:46:26 PM »

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I will say that Norm McDonald is a god:

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although my favorite moments from his SNL days was his continual tormenting of Chris Kattan (who apparently wasn't too happy about it and still hates the man to this day).  Mean...but freakin' hilarious.



Well, Kattan sucks.
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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2008, 10:31:08 PM »

i don't think you can find anyone who would disagree with that. 

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« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2008, 11:45:17 PM »

Yeah, Norm used to constantly tell everyone that Kattan was gay (not that there's anything wrong with that).  It used to really piss off Chris.  There's a great story about Norm and Chris that Artie Lange (one of Norm's best friends) tells about their days on SNL together.

Chris and Norm found out that the guest star was going to be Pam Andersen.  Supposedly, Chris is infatuated with her.  Everyone knows this.  Anway, they write a skit with Pam, Chris and Norm in it.  It's a riff on the twilight zone with norm playing rod serling.  All week before the show, Norm leaves Chris alone and doesn't say a word to him.  Finally, they begin the live shoot of the skit they're in together.  10 seconds before they're supposed to start the skit and switch cameras over to them, Norm suddenly turns to Pam and says, "Has Chris told you he's gay?  He's trying to tell everyone he thinks you're hot, but I don't know...I think he's gay.  Chris, you wanna add something about you being gay?"

...and bam, camera light goes on and Norm goes into his lines, "Welcome to a dimension of sound...."

Chris was pretty pissed and the cameraman almost fell over laughing throughout the entire thing anytime Chris had a line.
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« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2008, 01:51:13 AM »

It's easy to look at the past with rose-colored glasses. While it's true the early days of SNL were edgier, and spawned a lot of classic comedy stars, it is true that they had just as many crappy sketches as they had good ones. A friend bought me the Season One DVD set of SNL, and there are some *painfully* unfunny sketches sprinkled throughout. We tend to look at the early days of SNL as this treasure trove of great material because that's what they show on all the "SNL Anniversary" clip shows - the good stuff. They don't show the terrible sketches, so they fade from memory and we pretend to believe they just never existed.

I remember a time when Will Ferrell, et al, joined the cast (that was when they basically rebooted the cast all at once), and people thought it was the worst cast ever. Now with this generation, people look fondly back on the Will Ferrell days, and call THIS the worst cast ever. Guess what? This cycle has been going on since the very beginning of the show.

Personally, even though the material may not always be up to par, I think this cast has some absolutely brilliant comedic talent. Amy Poehler, Kristin Wiig, Fred Armisen, Will Forte, and Bill Hader are all utterly fantastic. The only real weak cast members on the show right now are Kenan Thompson and that new girl (who I think just hasn't been given a chance to do anything other than be a stand-in background prop).   

/rant off - back to the thread, I thought the Niko and Vlad thing was a huge missed opportunity. I was waiting for it to get funny (after I got over the brief chuckle regarding their body movements), but it never happened.
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