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« Reply #80 on: March 07, 2013, 08:13:56 PM »

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Um, I still don't know what it is you meant to say smile

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« Reply #81 on: March 11, 2013, 04:24:14 PM »

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Um, I still don't know what it is you meant to say smile

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« Reply #82 on: March 14, 2013, 05:21:54 PM »

Meet the new Garrett.
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« Reply #83 on: March 14, 2013, 05:29:35 PM »

I think people complaining over the new look of have some rose colored glasses for the old game. Even back then, he was still a generic black clad hood, and later a hood with a mechanical eye. It was many things beyond it that helped make him a character.

This new design does look like some bad design out of a teen to 20 something vampire romance flick. But if they can get the character right, and remove some eye shadow from him, it should turn out okay.
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« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2013, 09:18:59 PM »

Wait, wasn't there another thread on this already resurrected?  Oh wait, yes it's here.
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« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2013, 10:09:47 PM »

I don't mind a reboot (though I am not thrilled about it either) and I don't really mind the new look, but I really hope they get Stephen Russel back to play Garret. It will definitely mar my appreciation of the game if he's not voicing Garret.
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« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2013, 04:47:44 AM »

Quote from: Turtle on March 14, 2013, 05:29:35 PM

I think people complaining over the new look of have some rose colored glasses for the old game. Even back then, he was still a generic black clad hood, and later a hood with a mechanical eye. It was many things beyond it that helped make him a character.

This new design does look like some bad design out of a teen to 20 something vampire romance flick. But if they can get the character right, and remove some eye shadow from him, it should turn out okay.
I'll take "generic" over emo ninja.   icon_razz




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« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2013, 12:07:24 PM »

Is this really that big of a deal?  How often do we actually "see" anything of Garrett other than his hands in FPS view?  A couple cutscenes, maybe.
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« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2013, 01:13:06 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on March 15, 2013, 12:07:24 PM

Is this really that big of a deal?  How often do we actually "see" anything of Garrett other than his hands in FPS view?  A couple cutscenes, maybe.

Ok, Gratch gets the Garrett model that looks like the Hamburglar. ;)
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« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2013, 01:25:48 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on March 15, 2013, 01:13:06 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 15, 2013, 12:07:24 PM

Is this really that big of a deal?  How often do we actually "see" anything of Garrett other than his hands in FPS view?  A couple cutscenes, maybe.

Ok, Gratch gets the Garrett model that looks like the Hamburglar. slywink

 icon_lol  If the gameplay is solid, they can dress Garrett up like Bozo the Clown for all I care.
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« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2013, 03:29:55 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on March 15, 2013, 01:25:48 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 15, 2013, 01:13:06 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 15, 2013, 12:07:24 PM

Is this really that big of a deal?  How often do we actually "see" anything of Garrett other than his hands in FPS view?  A couple cutscenes, maybe.

Ok, Gratch gets the Garrett model that looks like the Hamburglar. slywink

 icon_lol  If the gameplay is solid, they can dress Garrett up like Bozo the Clown for all I care.

squeaky shoes are bad for sneaking though. 
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« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2013, 03:33:22 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on March 15, 2013, 01:13:06 PM

Quote from: Gratch on March 15, 2013, 12:07:24 PM

Is this really that big of a deal?  How often do we actually "see" anything of Garrett other than his hands in FPS view?  A couple cutscenes, maybe.

Ok, Gratch gets the Garrett model that looks like the Hamburglar. slywink

Ok, that had me literally laughing out loud.   Well done.   

I honestly don't worry too much about how Garrett looks - I play Thief of my PC and modders will take care of that for me.  smile
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« Reply #92 on: April 02, 2013, 03:37:35 AM »

Trailer
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« Reply #93 on: April 02, 2013, 04:37:39 AM »

Not horrible…but not Thief.  icon_neutral
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« Reply #94 on: April 02, 2013, 06:05:34 AM »

Quote from: Lordnine on April 02, 2013, 04:37:39 AM

Not horrible…but not Thief.  icon_neutral

I thought it looked pretty "thief" to me.   IN!!
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« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2013, 11:14:58 AM »

Not Stephen Russell. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2013, 12:00:35 PM »

Quote from: Harpua3 on April 02, 2013, 06:05:34 AM

Quote from: Lordnine on April 02, 2013, 04:37:39 AM

Not horrible…but not Thief.  icon_neutral

I thought it looked pretty "thief" to me.   IN!!

Same here.  Thought that was pretty bad-ass, honestly.
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« Reply #97 on: April 02, 2013, 12:35:55 PM »

looked awesome to me. Thought it had all the elements. This game could make me break my not paying more than $10 for a game rule.
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« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2013, 01:23:44 PM »

Quote from: JCC on April 02, 2013, 11:14:58 AM

Not Stephen Russell. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I do think the trailer looks good, but the first time I watched it all I could notice was someone else doing Garret's voice. I will still likely be giddy as a school girl when this comes out (unless my PC can't handle it).
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« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2013, 03:59:25 PM »

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Quote from: JCC on April 02, 2013, 11:14:58 AM

Not Stephen Russell. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I do think the trailer looks good, but the first time I watched it all I could notice was someone else doing Garret's voice. I will still likely be giddy as a school girl when this comes out (unless my PC can't handle it).

Same here - the wife immediately said "Wait, that's not Garrett!", and honestly - she's right.
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« Reply #100 on: April 03, 2013, 05:56:31 PM »

Eidos explains reason for new voice actor.   icon_cry
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« Reply #101 on: April 03, 2013, 05:59:25 PM »

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Eidos makes a good point.  There has never been a voice actor who could portray an animated character without being able to physical perform every action that animated character does.  It simply isn't possible.
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« Reply #102 on: April 03, 2013, 06:11:38 PM »

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The actor playing Garrett needed to be able to perform his own stunts," Audio Director Jean-Christophe Verbert explained. "Garrett's a really athletic guy. We could have pasted Stephen's voice on top of the actions and stunts of someone else, but this wouldn't appear natural. It really wouldn't make any sense to capture the full performance for our other characters, but not for our star."

Worked well for the latest tombraider.  They had a separate voice actress and stunt woman playing Lara Craft and it was very natural feeling.
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« Reply #103 on: April 03, 2013, 07:19:34 PM »

If anything, I am even more mad about Russell not playing Garret after reading that pathetic excuse. Bring on the pointless petition!!!!
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« Reply #104 on: April 03, 2013, 08:35:44 PM »

Stupid excuse from Eidos, but I still don't think it's that big of a deal.  The amount of internet handwringing and "OMG they've RUINED the Thief series!" seems awfully silly to me, but to each their own.
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« Reply #105 on: April 03, 2013, 08:43:20 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on April 03, 2013, 08:35:44 PM

Stupid excuse from Eidos, but I still don't think it's that big of a deal.  The amount of internet handwringing and "OMG they've RUINED the Thief series!" seems awfully silly to me, but to each their own.

Ok, Gratch gets the Garrett voice actor that sounds like the Hamburglar.
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« Reply #106 on: April 03, 2013, 09:16:23 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on April 03, 2013, 08:35:44 PM

Stupid excuse from Eidos, but I still don't think it's that big of a deal.  The amount of internet handwringing and "OMG they've RUINED the Thief series!" seems awfully silly to me, but to each their own.

A large part of it is that Garret was not an anonymous protagonist.  His personality made the game just as much as the stealthy game play did.  Actually, I would say even more so since Thief3 already saw a departure from elements of the originals (not for the better in my opinion) and Russell’s performance played a large role in holding it together.

Now Thief 4 might be a great game on its own merits but a lot of what they have shown so far points it as a very different feeling game and a different feeling protagonist.  This begs the question, why set it in the Thief universe at all?  And if you are determined to for marketing reasons, why not just choose a new protagonist altogether and maybe give Garrett a cameo?

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Quote from: Gratch on April 03, 2013, 08:35:44 PM

Stupid excuse from Eidos, but I still don't think it's that big of a deal.  The amount of internet handwringing and "OMG they've RUINED the Thief series!" seems awfully silly to me, but to each their own.

Ok, Gratch gets the Garrett voice actor that sounds like the Hamburglar.
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« Reply #107 on: April 03, 2013, 10:04:24 PM »

Quote from: Lordnine on April 03, 2013, 09:16:23 PM

His personality made the game just as much as the stealthy game play did. 

I agree that Garrett's personality was a big positive for the Thief games (although I'd rank it far below the actual gameplay), but don't think that switching voice actors somehow invalidates him as a character.  Additionally, I'm simply not seeing anything in these previews that is that massive of a departure from the already established mythos.  It still looks plenty Thief-y to me.
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« Reply #108 on: April 04, 2013, 02:09:56 PM »

no competitive multiplayer


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Eidos Montreal has told Eurogamer that there is "no competitive multiplayer" in the upcoming Thief reboot.

Multiplayer has never been mentioned in connection with the new game, which was first announced in 2009, but given Eidos Montreal's recent history developing the multiplayer component of Tomb Raider, it seemed fair to ask about it. The developer's answers suggest there might be online elements by the time the game ships, but it doesn't sound like you'll be running around The City teabagging fellow thieves and bickering over perks and loadouts.

"Right now, let's say competitive multiplayer, like the example you just gave us - Tomb Raider - there is no plan for that," producer Stephane Roy told me when I visited Eidos Montreal to preview the game recently.

"We are looking to see if there is maybe a challenge mode with some online component, but I'm going to be very honest with you - our main goal with this team is to give you the best single-player experience, just to bring back this franchise, to convince you we're part of the future and not something holding onto the past. It's really demanding, so I don't want to see my team wasting any energy... I want to see them focusing on that."

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I for one can not remember the voice from the Thief title i played on the Xbox 1(Deadly Shadows),but as someone who is upset from no David Hayter in MGSV,i can certainly understand why people are upset by it
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« Reply #109 on: April 04, 2013, 05:00:33 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on April 04, 2013, 02:09:56 PM


As for the Voice Actor:
I for one can not remember the voice from the Thief title i played on the Xbox 1(Deadly Shadows),but as someone who is upset from no David Hayter in MGSV,i can certainly understand why people are upset by it
Garrets original background. icon_smile A bit more of his original voice.

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« Reply #110 on: April 29, 2013, 03:33:52 PM »

Sounds like they have encountered a few problems.
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« Reply #111 on: April 29, 2013, 03:49:42 PM »

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My expectations for this game just divebombed.   crybaby
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« Reply #112 on: April 29, 2013, 04:30:05 PM »

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My expectations for this game just divebombed.   crybaby

This is where my heart sinks - SquareEnix is going to push them to get it done on time, and that means getting an E3 demo ready and then rapidly finishing it this year.  Will the team rise to the occasion or crack under the pressure?   I sincerely hope it is the former rather than the latter, but damn it...my expectations have divebombed too.  Sigh.
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« Reply #113 on: April 29, 2013, 10:09:22 PM »

Very discouraging...  crybaby
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« Reply #114 on: June 12, 2013, 08:18:27 PM »

E3 gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L67VurX81VI

My heart is breaking.

- Headshot bonus
- Takedown options
- Developer says people wanted options to fight when found out by guards
- its now an ACTION/Stealth game, because you know - we don't have enough action games....and who wants only stealth.

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« Reply #115 on: June 12, 2013, 08:33:16 PM »

I agree, but I thought the gameplay still looked fun, and they claim you can ghost through the whole game, so hopefully I will still be able to play it the same way I played the first 3 games...

Still hate the new garret voice.
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« Reply #116 on: June 13, 2013, 03:18:22 PM »

I'm heading to see Thief this morning.  I'll give you my impressions of it as soon as I can.   (editing between appointments isn't possible, so it's likely going to be tonight)
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« Reply #117 on: June 13, 2013, 03:54:35 PM »

Apparently, what they showed in the publicly shown demo segment is nothing like the actual gameplay, a lot of the stuff they show doesn't actually work properly and doesn't look as good.

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« Reply #118 on: June 13, 2013, 07:00:16 PM »

Yeah, the GiantBomb guys were saying it was not looking very good at all. 
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« Reply #119 on: June 13, 2013, 07:20:02 PM »

My take away from the video: A lot of people are complaining about the combat being a focus, which is valid if it really is a focus but I was more bothered by the type of combat.  My problem is that the combat looks WORSE than what was in Thief 1 & 2.  The originals had a fun sword fighting system where you could change the angle of your sword to counter attacks and parry (this was removed in Thief 3).  The new system looks like simple block and counter attacks with horrible quick timey type events (focus) added on.
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