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« Reply #440 on: May 27, 2011, 06:46:28 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 27, 2011, 05:59:50 PM

Quote from: Greg Wak on May 27, 2011, 05:49:38 PM

If I got the game from gog where is my patch?

Gog.com?

http://www.gog.com/en/news/the_witcher_2_1_1_patch_is_available_now

Okay CeeKay, Im quite sure you think I'm an idiot. I am guilty of scanning too quickly. I did go there first but I just scanned the article for a link. The Witcher link comes up in Polish with 4-5 differnt choices. So I just read gog now and saw it's on my account page. Seems a bit strange to put it there but whatever.
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« Reply #441 on: May 27, 2011, 08:00:34 PM »

I didn't even read it, just remembered seeing it from before and figured it'd point you in the right direction.
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« Reply #442 on: May 28, 2011, 03:35:56 AM »

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Quote from: Morgul on May 26, 2011, 02:56:37 AM

I am in chapter 1..  And, I loved the original one, but I think 2 is even better, so far.  \

Nice dying several times trying to figure it out instead of coasting without a sweat like I have been doing in DA2.



  
Really? You like dying and reloading? I agree that I don't enjoy coasting without a sweat, but several reloads put me in a foul mood. I finally gave in and set this sucker to easy.The last straw
Spoiler for Hiden:
After trying about 30+ reloads to kill the queens-yes I know what to do but you are allowed to be hit once-twice and you die. So I give up. go exploring to maybe go up a couple of levels. Stumble upon the haunted place where you rescue the 2 guys. Cool enter, creep around enjoying the atmosphere, jump down, meet 2 wraiths and die, die die. Try using the oil to increase damage against spirits-die, die die. after about 15 reloads I win. Yay! 10 min later I meet 2 more spirits-die,die, die.  Not fun for me. Easy is too easy but still more fun for me.

Yes, really.   I like games that are a challenge.   
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« Reply #443 on: May 28, 2011, 03:41:41 AM »

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Quote from: Morgul on May 26, 2011, 02:56:37 AM

I am in chapter 1..  And, I loved the original one, but I think 2 is even better, so far.  \

Nice dying several times trying to figure it out instead of coasting without a sweat like I have been doing in DA2.
 

I've heard eventually you do start coasting through, like they reversed the learning curve.

;(  then the guys that like it easy should love it maybe, I dunno.  I hope it stays challenging.   DA2 was just over the top easy.   

 I swear, it's like I'm playin' cards with my brother's kids or somethin'. You nerve-wrackin' sons-a-bitches.

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« Reply #444 on: May 28, 2011, 06:30:29 AM »

The 1.1 patch is supposed to remove the DRM from all the versions of the game.  They're also making the preorder DLC (mostly alternate outfits) available to everyone.
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« Reply #445 on: May 28, 2011, 01:12:19 PM »

I had to switch it to easy in the early stages, but have switched back to normal now that I know how to play. I like that the easy mode doesn't have a massive effect on the effort it takes to kill the badguys, it just seems to boost your defenses by a huge margin so you don't get killed in 2 strikes as often. This was enough to let me learn how to play without making it so easy it's not fun (like DA2).

Easy is still significantly more challenging than quite a few games I've played recently.
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« Reply #446 on: May 28, 2011, 09:44:16 PM »

I think people are having a hard time with combat because it works like it did in the first game, it's all timing based, but the game doesn't explain it well.  In games like Diablo or other Rpgs every time you click you attack and its about how fast you can click, but the cool thing about the Witcher 1 was that to create attack combos you had to click at the correct time, as soon as you make contact you click again and that will start a combo.  The catch is that the animations are timed differently so you just don't attack at the same rate.  It's the same in this game if you attack only when your sword hits your opponent you can create some long combos if you alternate between light and heavy attacks.  

Since it's presented like other Action RPG games I forgot about the first game and played it like other games and I got frustrated because Geralt wasn't acting quick enough, I would click and the animations would be behind.  Then I started playing it like the first game and now the combat really comes alive and it doesn't feel clunky.    
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« Reply #447 on: May 28, 2011, 09:54:32 PM »

has anyone tried playing with a gamepad yet?  I was thinking of trying it with my 360 controller but I can't find the wireless receiver I had.
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« Reply #448 on: May 28, 2011, 11:16:13 PM »

No one recognized my tombstone quote    ;(
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« Reply #449 on: May 28, 2011, 11:23:34 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 28, 2011, 09:54:32 PM

has anyone tried playing with a gamepad yet?  I was thinking of trying it with my 360 controller but I can't find the wireless receiver I had.

I play it with a 360 controller and like it better that way.  Not sure I can say why, though.
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« Reply #450 on: May 29, 2011, 11:23:45 PM »

9 Gig download again?!? .  Lucky I haven't moved my store bought copy of the game yet, it took days to get the game the first time from steam.
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« Reply #451 on: May 30, 2011, 01:45:56 AM »

Obama got a copy
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« Reply #452 on: May 30, 2011, 03:04:28 AM »

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The Polish Prime Minister was overheard saying "We think you'll enjoy the first scene with Triss.  We have heard that the people of your country like big American tee-tees."
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« Reply #453 on: June 06, 2011, 03:31:02 AM »

check out the inaugural review of the new look!
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« Reply #454 on: June 06, 2011, 04:00:36 PM »

Finished this over the weekend. I have to say I'm mildly disappointed. I think the biggest thing was how linear the game is. And each are is pretty small. I don't remember the last game being like that. Closing things off at the end of each chapter was also a pain. I could see the end of 1 coming but not so much 2. And why should I have to worry about that anyway? Taking potions before battles is also a strange choice as you don't know when you need them until you need them. The auto saving was also off in spots, especially some of the boss battles. The difficulty spikes were also a pain. I guess the second patch fixes some of that in the begining but some of the boss battles could be tweaked as well. In one near the end the save made me repeat the front end which I had got through but the back end was long and difficult. So I dropped down to easy and then the boss really couldn't damage me. Not really what I wanted. And some of the side quests just completely confused me so I had no idea what they wanted. Sounds like I hated it. I didn't, it was a fun enough ride and I will replay it to see the other half, but I didn't like it as much as the first one and towards the end I just wanted to finish so I could get back to FO:LV which I had interrupted in the middle to start this. Not how I expected to feel.

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« Reply #455 on: June 07, 2011, 10:02:49 PM »

Man I really picked the wrong game to buy off of Steam.  Another patch, another 9 gig download over my slow internet connection.  I suppose I'd better play more of this game.  As an aside I wonder what this would cost me if ATT et al started charging for the amount I'm downloading?  Kinda sucks to have to download 9 gigs to apply a 20 MB patch.
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« Reply #456 on: June 12, 2011, 05:54:06 PM »

Just finished the game (and I finished Duke Nukem Forever earlier today. Effective!). Loved (almost) every second of it. This was truly exceptional storytelling, mature and willing to challenge the player's ability to pay attention (I had a hard time keeping track of all the important players in the plot, but you don't really have to either).

Like in the first game, I managed to stay satisfyingly neutral despite every force in the universe attempting to get Geralt involved in some kind of political powerplay. I don't know if I was just lucky or if the writing is stellar all around, but I felt that every major choice I made turned out the right way in hindsight. The situation at the end of the game felt right to me based on the decisions I made.

I don't know why some people call the final chapter rushed. I didn't notice anything like that. It's shorter than the others, but that makes sense because of the plot. It certainly wasn't any less polished.
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« Reply #457 on: June 12, 2011, 06:04:14 PM »

Yeah the patch was pretty silly. Just finished it this morning (well first finish, I'm sure I'll play again, and I already have a save at the last choice from my playthrough that I'll do soon). I really enjoyed the whole game, although having played on easy I don't think I had a single fight that was a challenge in the 2nd half of the game. I'll do normal to change my chapter 1 decision...

Overall I loved it, I'm all about the Mass Effect style storytelling and gameplay and this was great both with the choices, dialogue, cut-scenes, and enjoyable combat. I was a little dissapointed how not wrapped up some storylines were, but if I think of it as part of a series (like mass effect) then it works very well.
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« Reply #458 on: June 12, 2011, 08:28:57 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on June 12, 2011, 05:54:06 PM

Just finished the game (and I finished Duke Nukem Forever earlier today. Effective!). Loved (almost) every second of it. This was truly exceptional storytelling, mature and willing to challenge the player's ability to pay attention (I had a hard time keeping track of all the important players in the plot, but you don't really have to either).

Like in the first game, I managed to stay satisfyingly neutral despite every force in the universe attempting to get Geralt involved in some kind of political powerplay. I don't know if I was just lucky or if the writing is stellar all around, but I felt that every major choice I made turned out the right way in hindsight. The situation at the end of the game felt right to me based on the decisions I made.

I don't know why some people call the final chapter rushed. I didn't notice anything like that. It's shorter than the others, but that makes sense because of the plot. It certainly wasn't any less polished.

You literally go right to the boss in chapter 3. that's rushed. I loved the game but chapter 3 felt unfinished.
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« Reply #459 on: June 12, 2011, 08:50:27 PM »

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Quote from: TiLT on June 12, 2011, 05:54:06 PM

Just finished the game (and I finished Duke Nukem Forever earlier today. Effective!). Loved (almost) every second of it. This was truly exceptional storytelling, mature and willing to challenge the player's ability to pay attention (I had a hard time keeping track of all the important players in the plot, but you don't really have to either).

Like in the first game, I managed to stay satisfyingly neutral despite every force in the universe attempting to get Geralt involved in some kind of political powerplay. I don't know if I was just lucky or if the writing is stellar all around, but I felt that every major choice I made turned out the right way in hindsight. The situation at the end of the game felt right to me based on the decisions I made.

I don't know why some people call the final chapter rushed. I didn't notice anything like that. It's shorter than the others, but that makes sense because of the plot. It certainly wasn't any less polished.

You literally go right to the boss in chapter 3. that's rushed. I loved the game but chapter 3 felt unfinished.

Well I certainly didn't. I did several sidequests and the main quest took me through several large encounters in different places before I encountered the "boss" (I honestly don't know who or what you're referring to with that word because of how The Witcher 2 is structured, though I guess it's one out of two NPCs that appear near the end). It was short, but it didn't feel rushed at all. There was no need for the plot to linger any more, and to do so would have truly felt forced.
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« Reply #460 on: June 12, 2011, 09:56:38 PM »

Quote from: Zinfan on June 07, 2011, 10:02:49 PM

Man I really picked the wrong game to buy off of Steam.  Another patch, another 9 gig download over my slow internet connection. 

they did that again?  owch.
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« Reply #461 on: June 12, 2011, 11:19:28 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on June 12, 2011, 09:56:38 PM

Quote from: Zinfan on June 07, 2011, 10:02:49 PM

Man I really picked the wrong game to buy off of Steam.  Another patch, another 9 gig download over my slow internet connection. 

they did that again?  owch.

Not much anyone can do about it at this point, beyond having Valve rewrite their entire patching system. It was very shortsighted of the developers to publish a game with a this large datafile.
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« Reply #462 on: June 13, 2011, 01:49:54 AM »

Quote from: TiLT on June 12, 2011, 11:19:28 PM

Not much anyone can do about it at this point, beyond having Valve rewrite their entire patching system. It was very shortsighted of the developers to publish a game with a this large datafile.

Yes.  Very shortsighted of them.  I'm given to understand that if they continue writing their games with huge datafiles like that, people may decide to buy the game direct from GOG.com rather than buying it from Steam. 
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« Reply #463 on: June 13, 2011, 08:43:00 AM »

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Quote from: TiLT on June 12, 2011, 11:19:28 PM

Not much anyone can do about it at this point, beyond having Valve rewrite their entire patching system. It was very shortsighted of the developers to publish a game with a this large datafile.

Yes.  Very shortsighted of them.  I'm given to understand that if they continue writing their games with huge datafiles like that, people may decide to buy the game direct from GOG.com rather than buying it from Steam. 

You have a point, though I don't think that's deliberate on their part. It's never a good business practice to piss off your customers, whether they use your preferred service or not.
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« Reply #464 on: June 13, 2011, 10:29:31 AM »

It's not like people ever said "Meh, patching is too much over steam, I won't buy this game" - If a witcher 3 came out tomorrow, people would still buy it, but mostly from GoG I'm sure.
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« Reply #465 on: June 13, 2011, 04:32:28 PM »

I also finished this one two days ago. Like TiLT I enjoyed nearly every second. It's funny that they basically give you an intro and three relatively small areas to play in, and it was still a lot of fun. I am hugely impressed by the amount of detail they managed to put into the character models, especially Geralt and his armor. Little straps, belts, and vials everywhere, and fully modeled instead of just textures. The main antagonist also looked great in my opinion. Cut scenes were a joy to watch because of this. Sidequests were enjoyable, characters were engaging and choices you made really had an impact on the story. My only real negative is that I lost track of what was going on due to the gazillion characters and nations that are in the game. This made me enjoy the story a little bit less than it could have.

Also, ePorn still makes me uncomfortable. I'm glad nobody walked in on me during one of those scenes.
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« Reply #466 on: June 13, 2011, 04:49:19 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on June 13, 2011, 10:29:31 AM

It's not like people ever said "Meh, patching is too much over steam, I won't buy this game" - If a witcher 3 came out tomorrow, people would still buy it, but mostly from GoG I'm sure.
not at 9 gigs they wouldnt
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« Reply #467 on: June 13, 2011, 05:32:25 PM »

Morgul's 3 word review and commentary?

"fucking awesome game"

Expansion please chop, chop..   

Oh yea, can you have the witcher 3 out with more content by the time I get bored with Skyrim?

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« Reply #468 on: June 13, 2011, 06:28:40 PM »

Really loving this game but have stopped playing now due to all the crashes to desktop once hitting Floatsm. It looks like its that Vista/Win7 3GB issue which can be fixed with a command line entry but no way I'm modifying my system files for a single game. 

Only bright side to it is that its gotten me to go back to the original Witcher and finish that. I did notice you could import a Witcher 1 save to Witcher 2. What does that get you?
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« Reply #469 on: June 13, 2011, 06:44:40 PM »

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Really loving this game but have stopped playing now due to all the crashes to desktop once hitting Floatsm. It looks like its that Vista/Win7 3GB issue which can be fixed with a command line entry but no way I'm modifying my system files for a single game. 

If you're referring to the so-called 3GB switch, it should be pretty safe and might help you with other games/applications as well. I've done the same thing myself (for Visual Studio, not games) and had no problems with it. In fact, it improved performance dramatically.
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« Reply #470 on: June 13, 2011, 06:49:37 PM »

 I think I had to do that for STALKER, and if it was operation then it was very simple.
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« Reply #471 on: June 13, 2011, 08:30:21 PM »

I'm really enjoying the game too - no issues, 17 hours in, and still on chapter 1 (though about to close it out).

I am apparently in the opposite camp as most, in that I really like the difficulty level.  Started on EASY, as I was not getting how to do the combat effectively, but slowly got better, and have been playing on Normal since around hour 5.  It is challenging, but as you grow you can really appreciate how much more ass you can kick.  I'm at level 11, and killin' stuff in Chap 1 is breezy.
I dig that there will be a great reason to play through a 2nd time with different story arc - plan on upping the difficulty level on my 2nd time through, for sure.  That should keep me busy until an expansion.

I'm usually a big, big fan of wide-open spaces, ala FO 3 and FOLV - and get claustrophobic/bored of smaller areas of play.  This happened when I played Witcher 1 - the swamp area really bogged me down.  
Witcher 2, however, makes such good use of relatively small areas that they offer, that I never notice the "walls".  Graphics and excellent story (with supporting touches, like NPC storytellers, books, etc) make the world feel deep, and IMO make excellent use of the areas that are available.

My only criticism so far is that I wish there were more incentive with the dice game - though I do l like how the game was incorporated into the story arc.

I'm enjoying the game and story so much I think I may go back and give Witcher 1 a retry, see if I can get past what area(s) I got bored with previously.  Curious if its going to be hard to get into, given I like the way combat was implemented in 2.
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« Reply #472 on: June 13, 2011, 09:27:22 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on June 13, 2011, 06:44:40 PM

Quote from: Crawley on June 13, 2011, 06:28:40 PM

Really loving this game but have stopped playing now due to all the crashes to desktop once hitting Floatsm. It looks like its that Vista/Win7 3GB issue which can be fixed with a command line entry but no way I'm modifying my system files for a single game. 

If you're referring to the so-called 3GB switch, it should be pretty safe and might help you with other games/applications as well. I've done the same thing myself (for Visual Studio, not games) and had no problems with it. In fact, it improved performance dramatically.

At the expense of sounding like an ass, I wasn't even aware there was a CTD problem with Witcher 2.  I haven't had one crash in over 20 hours of play.
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« Reply #473 on: June 13, 2011, 09:40:06 PM »

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Also, ePorn still makes me uncomfortable. I'm glad nobody walked in on me during one of those scenes.

I haven't played much (I saved the you know who's from the hangman) but I saw one scene on YouTube.

Spoiler for Hiden:
the one where he nails a succubus. I just about fell out of my chair laughing when she through her cloven hoof over his shoulder.
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« Reply #474 on: June 14, 2011, 03:30:04 PM »

Quote from: Jaymeson on June 13, 2011, 08:30:21 PM

I'm enjoying the game and story so much I think I may go back and give Witcher 1 a retry, see if I can get past what area(s) I got bored with previously.  Curious if its going to be hard to get into, given I like the way combat was implemented in 2.

I personally would not do that.  Witcher 2 is 100x better than the first game, everything is vastly improved.  It would be a serious chore to play through Witcher 1 now.
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« Reply #475 on: June 14, 2011, 03:34:56 PM »

Quote from: KePoW on June 14, 2011, 03:30:04 PM

Quote from: Jaymeson on June 13, 2011, 08:30:21 PM

I'm enjoying the game and story so much I think I may go back and give Witcher 1 a retry, see if I can get past what area(s) I got bored with previously.  Curious if its going to be hard to get into, given I like the way combat was implemented in 2.

I personally would not do that.  Witcher 2 is 100x better than the first game, everything is vastly improved.  It would be a serious chore to play through Witcher 1 now.

I've actually done just that, gone back because I miss the old combat system.
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« Reply #476 on: July 12, 2011, 06:42:54 PM »

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Quote from: jersoc on May 20, 2011, 07:41:17 PM

Quote from: hepcat on May 19, 2011, 08:06:22 PM

I won't consider this game officially released until jersoc has posted how awful it is.  

guess it'll never be out then. only bad games are called as such. good games i'm too busy playing.

I give it 12 more hours until you decide that the color they chose for the inventory screen background ruins the game and therefore Witcher 2 sucks as few things have sucked before.   Tongue

The color doesn't bug me, but the throbbing effect makes it hard for me to read the text though smile  Seriously...
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« Reply #477 on: July 12, 2011, 10:40:19 PM »

Quote from: naednek on July 12, 2011, 06:42:54 PM

Quote from: hepcat on May 20, 2011, 08:13:58 PM

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Quote from: hepcat on May 19, 2011, 08:06:22 PM

I won't consider this game officially released until jersoc has posted how awful it is.  

guess it'll never be out then. only bad games are called as such. good games i'm too busy playing.

I give it 12 more hours until you decide that the color they chose for the inventory screen background ruins the game and therefore Witcher 2 sucks as few things have sucked before.   Tongue

The color doesn't bug me, but the throbbing effect makes it hard for me to read the text though smile  Seriously...


Throbbing effect?  You sure that isn't just your dyslexia?
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« Reply #478 on: July 13, 2011, 03:34:55 AM »

Quote from: frost on July 12, 2011, 10:40:19 PM

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I won't consider this game officially released until jersoc has posted how awful it is.  

guess it'll never be out then. only bad games are called as such. good games i'm too busy playing.

I give it 12 more hours until you decide that the color they chose for the inventory screen background ruins the game and therefore Witcher 2 sucks as few things have sucked before.   Tongue

The color doesn't bug me, but the throbbing effect makes it hard for me to read the text though smile  Seriously...


Throbbing effect?  You sure that isn't
just your dyslexia?


ype i'm srue
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« Reply #479 on: July 13, 2011, 03:37:22 PM »

Quote from: naednek on July 13, 2011, 03:34:55 AM

Quote from: frost on July 12, 2011, 10:40:19 PM

Quote from: naednek on July 12, 2011, 06:42:54 PM

Quote from: hepcat on May 20, 2011, 08:13:58 PM

Quote from: jersoc on May 20, 2011, 07:41:17 PM

Quote from: hepcat on May 19, 2011, 08:06:22 PM

I won't consider this game officially released until jersoc has posted how awful it is.  

guess it'll never be out then. only bad games are called as such. good games i'm too busy playing.

I give it 12 more hours until you decide that the color they chose for the inventory screen background ruins the game and therefore Witcher 2 sucks as few things have sucked before.   Tongue

The color doesn't bug me, but the throbbing effect makes it hard for me to read the text though smile  Seriously...


Throbbing effect?  You sure that isn't
just your dyslexia?


ype i'm srue

Sorry.  There was only two ways I could go with a "throbbing" joke.  I'd like to think I took the high road.    icon_biggrin
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