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Qbe
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« on: May 10, 2004, 01:47:06 AM »

I want to love Morrowind.  I bought the PC version on release day.  When it ran poorly on my PC (800 MHz/GeForce 200MX) I bought a new video card (3TI200) and tried every performance improvement tip I could find, but finally gave up after a few hours when I got tired of the choppy graphics.

I've also been a long-time Xbox detractor: it has very few games I'd want to play.  However, one of those games is Morrowind, and I'm seriously tempted to get one primarily to play Morrowind.  It may be cheaper to do this than to upgrade my PC, which really doesn't need upgrading.  So, a few questions:

1.  I'd assume that the resolution is turned down to 640x480 or below in order to get any graphics performance at all.  Is it still a good game to play on the Xbox?  Is it choppy and/or a slideshow?

2.  Any gotchas with getting the GOTY version of Morrowind instead of the regular?

3.  Is it possible to get/play user mods with this version?

I'll leave it at that for now.  It's all strictly hypothetical at this point anyway.

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2004, 02:05:06 AM »

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1. I'd assume that the resolution is turned down to 640x480 or below in order to get any graphics performance at all. Is it still a good game to play on the Xbox? Is it choppy and/or a slideshow?


It runs fine.

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2. Any gotchas with getting the GOTY version of Morrowind instead of the regular?


It is as buggy as the original release

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3. Is it possible to get/play user mods with this version?


No.


In my opinion, Morrowind alone isn't worth buying an XBox
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2004, 02:06:12 AM »

I have the PC version and Tribunal expansion but instead of getting Bloodmoon I decided to go for the X-BOX GOTY release.

firstly - my PC specs are lower than yours and I was happy with the performance of MW on my PC, so when I say I have no problem with the X-BOX version you may feel differently.

I don't know of any way to use mods with the X-BOX version - I read in an interview with someone from Bethesda that the 'hooks' are there to allow mods to be used with the game, but I haven't heard of anyone finding a way to load mods.

as a rule I don't like playing FPS games on consoles so I prefer the control scheme of the PC version, and I encounter occasional "dirty disc errors" when loading MW - something I don't get with any other X-BOX game.

despite those problems, it is still a blast to play on X-BOX and I haven't fired up the PC Version since I got it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2004, 02:27:17 AM »

Thanks for the input guys.  A few points of clarification:

1.  My GF3 card has a bad cooling fan, so I'm back to the GF2MX on my PC until the better card is repaired.

2.  Morrowind isn't the only game I'm interested in playing, but is the primary one.  The others are: Shenmue II (the Dreamcast version costs too much), KOTOR (I've heard good things about it) and Fable (if it turns out to be good).

3.  The only reason I'm considering this is that I have about $100 in Best Buy gift cards.  I figure that Sony will drop the PS2 to $130 at E3, so Microsoft will drop the Xbox to $100 to compensate  :wink:   Or maybe not.

Andy, what resolution did you use when you ran it on your PC?  I might just need to turn down the resolution and play it for the game rather than the graphics.
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2004, 02:41:08 AM »

I was playing at 800x600 on a PIII733MHz (256 MB RAM/GeForce 2 GTS 32 MB)
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2004, 02:42:38 AM »

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It is as buggy as the original release

He lies!  There are lots of fixes incorporated into GOTY.  Just give the patch notes a read through on elderscrolls.com and you'll see (all PC patches were incorporated into GOTY, excepting the stuff like new journal), as well as some fixes to try and circumvent the DDE's as much as possible.  Generally we've found the amount of reports of DDE's to be greatly reduced (percentage wise) from the original, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear people still have trouble with them.  The first time I tried to load a save game in Halo I got one :x  Annoying.

You can get mods onto an Xbox with a mod chip but I can't tell you the exact procedure, and not everything works the same as it does on PC.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2004, 02:46:51 AM »

Hmmm, I may have to retry 800x600.

And kathode, it's partially your fault that I'm on this Morrowind kick  :wink:
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2004, 07:34:33 AM »

I owned the Xbox version twice, and just couldn't get into it... until I got the PC version :-)  The Xbox version is competent enough, and the environments are very similar to the PC version (although the character models are pretty bad).   IMO the various mods (and bug fixes) available for Morrowang PC made it much more enjoyable.

Morrowind alone isn't worth buying an Xbox; however, there's as ton of other games that are so I'd say go for it anyways smile
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2004, 05:58:06 PM »

Hell no. Absolutely not. That game deserves to be played on your PC, even with reduced resolution. It also deserves both expansions. If you are on the fence about the Box though, I can think of 10 other games or so that make it a must buy. Just save yourself a lot of cash and get the GOTY edition for the PC if thats all you want.

And ignore Kathode, hes biased smile
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2004, 06:39:55 PM »

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He lies! There are lots of fixes incorporated into GOTY.


Did I say "It has all the same bugs as the original"?
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2004, 08:40:11 PM »

I do like it on the X-Box, but I really wish they had downloadable mods from the community though.  Although I almost always pick my big screen and surround sound, the mods tempt me sometimes to unload my X-Box version for the PC.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2004, 02:48:39 AM »

I'm admittedly biased also (though I have no professional ties  :wink: ), and I love playing Morrowind (GOTY version) on the Xbox. My PC now could handle it, but I've grown used to playing it on the sofa and I'm not going back. The Mods do tempt me, but the game is so vast already I'm probably never going to see huge portions of it as it is.

But I would agree that there are a lot of other reasons to get an Xbox now. If nothing else the price point is so low now that it makes me want to cry (I still have my launch box). And there are a lot of first rate titles out right now, with the promise (always) of more to come. I don't know your  gaming tastes, but I really don't think you'll regret buying one.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2004, 11:52:40 AM »

I would not get one just for Morrowind but it is a decent choice at the price it's at now.  And a lot of the older games have reduced prices as well.  Now Fable just might be worth getting an Xbox if it's half as good as they keep saying.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2004, 09:29:57 PM »

Thanks for all the input, guys.  Since I already have Morrowind, Tribunal and a PC, I'm going to give it another try.  If some really good RPGs come out for the Xbox, I may have to reconsider.  For now, saving money == good.
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