[PC/360/Ps3] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Impressions, tweaks and more!

[naednek]

Weird, no hetz sighting in this thread or in the console thread. 

[CeeKay]

He's probably unconscious from the orgasm that video gave him.

[metallicorphan]

That video is my first real taste of the new theme music.  It is quite possibly the best I have heard for any game, ever. 

i love how they revisited the morrowind theme.

not quite sure what you mean,as i just heard The Elder Scrolls theme same as Morrowind and Oblivion,but with a choir(which i agree was brilliant)..it's always just slightly different with each game...unless you meant another part which i didn't recognize

[TiLT]

That video is my first real taste of the new theme music.  It is quite possibly the best I have heard for any game, ever. 

i love how they revisited the morrowind theme.

not quite sure what you mean,as i just heard The Elder Scrolls theme same as Morrowind and Oblivion,but with a choir(which i agree was brilliant)..it's always just slightly different with each game...unless you meant another part which i didn't recognize

He means that the theme goes all the way through and doesn't stop just before the climax like Oblivion's theme did. That was always so frustrating with that game, hearing all the buildup and then having it fizzle away into nothing.

[metallicorphan]

That video is my first real taste of the new theme music.  It is quite possibly the best I have heard for any game, ever. 

i love how they revisited the morrowind theme.

not quite sure what you mean,as i just heard The Elder Scrolls theme same as Morrowind and Oblivion,but with a choir(which i agree was brilliant)..it's always just slightly different with each game...unless you meant another part which i didn't recognize

He means that the theme goes all the way through and doesn't stop just before the climax like Oblivion's theme did. That was always so frustrating with that game, hearing all the buildup and then having it fizzle away into nothing.

oh,yeah i see what you mean

[Huw the Poo]

What about that trailer is supposed to be exciting?  Half of it was clearly a cutscene/intro rendered with the in-game engine, the rest was...well, wandering around and hacking at things.  I saw nothing to suggest that Skyrim will be more like the masterpiece that was Morrowind and less like the pile of puke that was Oblivion.

[metallicorphan]

What about that trailer is supposed to be exciting?  Half of it was clearly a cutscene/intro rendered with the in-game engine, the rest was...well, wandering around and hacking at things.  I saw nothing to suggest that Skyrim will be more like the masterpiece that was Morrowind and less like the pile of puke that was Oblivion.

 

[Caine]

That video is my first real taste of the new theme music.  It is quite possibly the best I have heard for any game, ever. 

i love how they revisited the morrowind theme.

not quite sure what you mean,as i just heard The Elder Scrolls theme same as Morrowind and Oblivion,but with a choir(which i agree was brilliant)..it's always just slightly different with each game...unless you meant another part which i didn't recognize

He means that the theme goes all the way through and doesn't stop just before the climax like Oblivion's theme did. That was always so frustrating with that game, hearing all the buildup and then having it fizzle away into nothing.

oh,yeah i see what you mean

basically, yes.  the oblivion theme builds up for about 25 seconds then goes all mellow, like JS just popped a Quaalude or something, for about 30 then builds back up again only to peter out a short while before getting to another build-up and mellow-out sequence.  the ES5 theme is a huge payoff started out by a strong yell.  even without the lyrics, it's a strong theme song all the way through.

kind of fitting really.  morrowind, dark elves, exotic sound.  es5, nords, strong sound.  es4, britons, wussy sappy crap.

[Caine]

themes, by visual comparison.

ES3


ES4


ES5 - highlighted section only.  

[metallicorphan]

es4, britons, wussy sappy crap.

 ...I TAKE OFFENSE AT THAT!!...Elder Scrolls IV was the better game for me over Morrowind

[Caine]

es4, britons, wussy sappy crap.

 ...I TAKE OFFENSE AT THAT!!...Elder Scrolls IV was the better game for me over Morrowind

in-game britons ya nancy   living it up in there big fancy castles.  much

[metallicorphan]

es4, britons, wussy sappy crap.

 ...I TAKE OFFENSE AT THAT!!...Elder Scrolls IV was the better game for me over Morrowind

in-game britons ya nancy   living it up in there big fancy castles.  much

i presumed that's what you meant anyway,but i thought it was Patrick Stewart and Sean Bean you hated...but anyway,the joke(which i guess failed)was that it looked like i was complaining about that,but really i was complaining about ES4 being dissed

[TiLT]

themes, by visual comparison.

I don't think that's a very good comparison, except for the Morrowind and Oblivion. Skyrim's sound has clearly been compressed so much that you can no longer recognize the dynamics just by looking at the waveform.

[Caine]

themes, by visual comparison.

I don't think that's a very good comparison, except for the Morrowind and Oblivion. Skyrim's sound has clearly been compressed so much that you can no longer recognize the dynamics just by looking at the waveform.

fair request. 
all three in the same time scale with the actual theme clipped out.

of course, there are a number of artifacts in the es5 sample

[Caine]

and of course realizing that the es5 is from the shout moment of the clip onward, so it has no build up whatsoever. 

/musicnerd

[CeeKay]

I applaud your dedication Caine.

[Caine]

I applaud your dedication Caine.

nothing better to do on a snow day from home, especially as i can't get too distracted in case work comes in.

[TiLT]

fair request. 
all three in the same time scale with the actual theme clipped out.

of course, there are a number of artifacts in the es5 sample

Heh, now I'm confused. I'm not sure if it's you or me who's thinking ahead of the other one.

When I say "compressed", I mean that as in the musical term. In layman's terms, the volume throughout the Skyrim theme has been standardized to such a degree that you can't tell where it sounds loud and where it sounds "soft" just by looking at the waveform. The other two tracks are subject to only soft compression, while Skyrim's has been compressed to a massive degree (as is common with advertisements). Of course, you quite possibly know this and are referring to something I know nothing about. 

[Grimwar]

That video is my first real taste of the new theme music.  It is quite possibly the best I have heard for any game, ever. 

i love how they revisited the morrowind theme.

not quite sure what you mean,as i just heard The Elder Scrolls theme same as Morrowind and Oblivion,but with a choir(which i agree was brilliant)..it's always just slightly different with each game...unless you meant another part which i didn't recognize

Yeah, I know it is the Morrowind theme redone, but the choir makes a huge difference.  It just sounds more powerful to me.

[Destructor]

That video is my first real taste of the new theme music.  It is quite possibly the best I have heard for any game, ever. 

i love how they revisited the morrowind theme.

not quite sure what you mean,as i just heard The Elder Scrolls theme same as Morrowind and Oblivion,but with a choir(which i agree was brilliant)..it's always just slightly different with each game...unless you meant another part which i didn't recognize

Yeah, I know it is the Morrowind theme redone, but the choir makes a huge difference.  It just sounds more powerful to me.

I for one love choir based songs, especially if done right. By by standards, this is REALLY done right.

Absolutely outstanding trailer. And if (as the rumor says) this is only 360 footage, it's that much more amazing. Impressive what the console can do.

[CeeKay]

And if (as the rumor says) this is only 360 footage, it's that much more amazing. Impressive what the console can do.

and just imagine what modders will be able to do with it once it's out. of course it loks fine the way it is, but you know someone will find a way to make it look better.

[Greg Wak]

When this was announced I stomped my foot and said "no way" if the scaling is anything like Oblivion. But as they show everything, and especially this latest trailer, they are destroying any resistence I might have, scaling or no.

[CeeKay]

When this was announced I stomped my foot and said "no way" if the scaling is anything like Oblivion. But as they show everything, and especially this latest trailer, they are destroying any resistence I might have, scaling or no.

resistance is futile.

[Razgon]

damnit..

reinstalling Oblivion and ten million mods, run through the jungle

Installing these mods require a lab coat though. 

[Greg Wak]

When this was announced I stomped my foot and said "no way" if the scaling is anything like Oblivion. But as they show everything, and especially this latest trailer, they are destroying any resistence I might have, scaling or no.

resistance is futile.

Yeah...sigh. With RPG's for me it sure is. That trailer was all kinds of awesome sauce. However no trailer can show if my issues with OB have been addressed in any way.

[CeeKay]

When this was announced I stomped my foot and said "no way" if the scaling is anything like Oblivion. But as they show everything, and especially this latest trailer, they are destroying any resistence I might have, scaling or no.

resistance is futile.

Yeah...sigh. With RPG's for me it sure is. That trailer was all kinds of awesome sauce. However no trailer can show if my issues with OB have been addressed in any way.

don't worry.  I'm sure that guy was at least level 2 for the dragon fight.

[EddieA]

There's a lot of new info in this thread at NeoGAF.

[CeeKay]

a new batch of screenshots.

[CeeKay]

on multiplayer.

[Greg Wak]

a new batch of screenshots.

I'm sure I have seen that one of the ruins and the roundish tower with the waterfalls before. That's the one that made me think "no way can I skip this."

[Greg Wak]

on multiplayer.

Nice CeeKay-one line on multiplayer-no- and then tons more stuff on the game. Fallout s the auto leveling was pretty invisable, I do remember some very tough areas I had to leave for later so I continue to have hope. I still disagree with "in a game like this, there has to be some auto leveling." I have played nig rpgs without it, it works just fine.

[CeeKay]

a new batch of screenshots.

I'm sure I have seen that one of the ruins and the roundish tower with the waterfalls before. That's the one that made me think "no way can I skip this."

yeah, that's an older one but it wasn't in the gallery for some reason.

[Huw the Poo]

on multiplayer.

Nice CeeKay-one line on multiplayer-no- and then tons more stuff on the game.

The current version of CeeKay only parses headlines; it doesn't parse the articles themselves.  The problem is being worked on.

[CeeKay]

on multiplayer.

Nice CeeKay-one line on multiplayer-no- and then tons more stuff on the game.

The current version of CeeKay only parses headlines; it doesn't parse the articles themselves.  The problem is being worked on.

I think he was summing up the answer on multiplayer for those who didn't want to be fooled, there's actually 3 paragraphs on it.

[Greg Wak]

on multiplayer.

Nice CeeKay-one line on multiplayer-no- and then tons more stuff on the game.

The current version of CeeKay only parses headlines; it doesn't parse the articles themselves.  The problem is being worked on.

I think he was summing up the answer on multiplayer for those who didn't want to be fooled, there's actually 3 paragraphs on it.

Yes and the sum total of news in the 3 paragraphs was,no.
My point was that I found the rest of the info in the link more interesting.

[Huw the Poo]

The current version of CeeKay also apparently has a bug that allows it to answer back!

[CeeKay]

new preview.  WANT.

[Purge]

Yummy.

[Greg Wak]

Really? That preview got you excited? I normally look for the positive but it seemed to me that preview told me very little about the game at all. So he dispatched some enemies easily and there several different death animations. Not really to be a drag, but no way will there be enough animations for it not to get old. There is a lot of death in these game. People actually have jobs? Good Bethesda, ummm, I've kinda been used to that for a while now,thx. He ran and hid from a dragon? Good. I was afraid they were going to say he crushed the dragon with 5-6 sword thrusts and a spell of doom. He picked a flower? Do I have to say anything to that? Oh, and the UI sounds kinda like a pain in the ass. Look to the sky for your simplified skill tree? So what could I have seen in a preview that would have got me excited? Some very cool, creepy, terrifing enemies and/or dragons. Hey, those Gothic mini T-rex's are cool enough. A dark, spooky, crumbling dungeon/ruin by flickering tourchlight, with maybe an epic difficult fight at the end with a great reward, or maybe some tricky traps along the way, or both. An interesting quest given in an interesting way. Part of a skill tree with some difficult choices on it. How about just something as fun as the Nehrim enterance to the dark forrest, with a warning sign about how difficult a trek it would be. Now, maybe some of this stuff is in the game and they just want to preview generic stuff as so not to spoil anything. Hope so. Yes I will play this when it comes out, but while that one screen shot of the crumbling ruined tower in the distance got my juices flowing, this preview did nothing for me.

[Greg Wak]

Okay, here's an RPS preview that does really have me excited for the game.http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/18/20-best-things-about-skyrim/