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« on: May 29, 2008, 05:48:52 PM »

Like the PSP. Does the PS3 have this? On the PSP you can flick the on switch and the system will sleep. Flick it again and you are back right where you left off.  Is this why people set their Live account to "away"? So they don't have to shut the system down?

I will say that what makes COD4 that much better is that it takes just seconds to get into the MP menu.  All the up-front credits (studio names, etc.) are skippable by pressing a button.  More games should be that way.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 05:50:30 PM »

I think the profile automatically goes to away when the controller shuts off.

When I'm not actively playing I just take it to the blades and leave it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 05:52:40 PM »

Ah, I see. I usually shut the system off if I'm not going to be coming back in the next 10 minutes or so.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 06:36:17 PM »

Not much longer after my controller disconnects due to inactivity my 360 display on my HDTV dims. As far as I'm aware it's a sleep mode. I'm not sure how that effects XBL game play, because I've never walked away while playing an online game.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 06:54:12 PM »

That's just the screen saver - the system itself is still on, fans going, etc.  I want to be able to shut the system down with a button so it is using minimal power, and then with another press, return to where I was in a game. DS games also do this when you close the lid.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 07:21:47 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on May 29, 2008, 06:54:12 PM

That's just the screen saver - the system itself is still on, fans going, etc.  I want to be able to shut the system down with a button so it is using minimal power, and then with another press, return to where I was in a game. DS games also do this when you close the lid.

Ok, now I see what you're saying. I was under the impression that some of the internal components were placed into a lower power consumption state when the screen saver kicks in. What you're describing is actually what I know to be a resume mode?
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 07:45:24 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on May 29, 2008, 07:21:47 PM

Quote from: Teggy on May 29, 2008, 06:54:12 PM

That's just the screen saver - the system itself is still on, fans going, etc.  I want to be able to shut the system down with a button so it is using minimal power, and then with another press, return to where I was in a game. DS games also do this when you close the lid.

Ok, now I see what you're saying. I was under the impression that some of the internal components were placed into a lower power consumption state when the screen saver kicks in.

nah, it's just a screen saver as Teggy said

Teggy, no the PS3 does not have a sleep mode either...I think it's really just something exclusive to the DS and PSP
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 09:27:51 PM »

Well, technically you aren't supposed to leave your 360 on for extended periods of time so a sleep mode would be useless.  And if you are only going to leave it for a few minutes, then who cares?

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 09:52:53 PM »

This would be really nice to have, even if it's very unfriendly to the environment. ninja
Games take a while to load and a lot of games employ save points. Having the sleep mode would really help my case, because nothing annoys me more than have to search for a save point (or return to one, ala GTA4) when you're called away to do something (that would be beyond a few minutes). Games like GTA4 also take a while to load.

I'm under the impression that all sleep mode is is keeping the data in RAM. My PC can do it, why not the 360? The only thing that would be messed up (I think) would be in-game clocks. New games would just have to be programmed to detect sleep mode and disregard that time. The 360 is simply too loud to keep running, never mind how power hungry it is.
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2008, 04:15:55 AM »

Quote from: ChaoZ on May 29, 2008, 09:52:53 PM

I'm under the impression that all sleep mode is is keeping the data in RAM. My PC can do it, why not the 360?

Technically, there's two different 'sleep modes' for the PC. One, which is just titled Sleep, puts your PC into a low-power mode. It's still on, and resumes pretty much instantly, but it's still drawing a bit of power. But it also is running cooler, as the processor doesn't need to do much of anything during that time.

Then you have Hibernation. That is where Windows dumps the contents of RAM to your HD, and then fully turns off. When you resume, Windows reads that data, puts it back into RAM, and resumes exactly where you left off. Most emulators support this function via save states, so you might have heard of it that way.

But why doesn't the PS3 or 360 support this, when the DS supports Sleep mode? Good question. Only their respective hardware devs know the answer to that one.
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2008, 08:31:53 AM »

The PSP sleep mode is fantastic.  I don't think I've ever actually turned it off before.  The DS sleep mode is pure shit-I'll close it and then come back 2 days later and the battery has died and my game is gone.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2008, 12:40:44 PM »

Quote from: Canuck on May 30, 2008, 08:31:53 AM

The PSP sleep mode is fantastic.  I don't think I've ever actually turned it off before.  The DS sleep mode is pure shit-I'll close it and then come back 2 days later and the battery has died and my game is gone.

I forgot all about the PSP's sleep mode. Works great, but it does take a bit of power to keep it running. But it lasts far longer than the DS' sleep mode does if I remember right.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2008, 03:17:22 PM »

the 360 gets enough sleep when it's in for repairs  icon_twisted
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