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Author Topic: Spoils of War: a fantasy TBS Games Retrospective  (Read 1151 times)
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Orgull
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« on: July 23, 2008, 02:49:48 AM »

I wrote a small bit for my almost totally dead blog called Spoils of War: a fantasy TBS Games Retrospective and I just wanted to share. Here's a quick exerpt.
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Back in the fall of 1995, a game caught my eye at my local PC store and after being seduced by the (very colourful) back of the box, I had to have it. That game was Heroes of Might and Magic, a game that consumed countless hours of my early twenties, a time when I should have been out either getting laid or getting a career. Instead I was gleefully stomping around the world of Enroth with Kastore and Yog and all the other Heroes, pretending to be bad-ass. Nerd Power!

Anyone else have similar feelings about certain older games? I've been replaying those old games and I have to say, it's not just nostalgia. Cruddy graphics aside those games are still just as much fun as the were when I first played them. It got me thinking...
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I remember wishing that someone would combine my favorite elements of these three game series together. The very idea gives me chills. Imgagine a game with the colourful, loot-filled, map-stomping heroes of Heroes of Might and Magic. Now add the fast production, ruins, allies and cowboy diplomacy of Warlords. Stir in a generous helping of the combat from Disciples and bake until perfect.

Any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2008, 01:32:18 PM »

Master of Magic and the Warlords games were my favorite TB fantasy strat games.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2008, 02:22:37 PM »

Having been almost exclusively an RPG and FPS player for my 20-some years of PC gaming, I discovered the the addictive pleasure of TBS gaming earlier this year in the form of Civ4.  So for the last few months, I have been surveying the landscape of strategy gaming, games I have all but ignored as a gamer.  It's almost like discovering a new hobby, as I try out games like HoMM, Age of Wonders, and Warlords Battlecry, looking for the RPG/strategy combo that will really hook me.  So far I feel a bit more comfortable with TBS rather than RTS, but after a short look HoMM5 did not really grab me.  I have the original Age of Wonders, so that will probably the next one I try, or maybe HoMM3.  Or maybe Disciples 2, which is easy to get via Steam.  So many options! 
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2008, 02:27:11 PM »

I've thought about this a bit! For me the older games that stood out for me emulated many aspects of board games. This mainly applied to rpgs, and strategy games... you managed, made decisions, planned, and strategized. Many of the popular games prior to (around) 2003 included this basic design.  MechCommander, Cyberstorm, Master of Magic, X-com, Jagged Alliance, BG series, Cave Wars and many many others.

However, the last few years the design shift has occured. Now those games are retro and rarely see them much less as a tripple AAA title. The new game design princliple seems much more focued on making you 'react' to planned sitatiions. Even the RTS by and large have devolved into this paradigm. There are a few exceptions of course, these are the only thing that seems to be keeping in gaming really! I'm not a huge fan of the new reactive design strategy.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 04:46:01 PM »

One of my favorite fantasy TBS games is one I never see mentioned at all. Was I the only one who played and loved Sword of Aragon? I still miss that fat PC-speaker "splat" sound it made when your unit charged into another unit. I could see an update to that game with perhaps an upgraded random item mechanism thrown in (RPG-like equipment upgrading) being a fun amateur programming challenge.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 11:16:09 PM »

Oh yeah... Sword of Aragon is one of my all-time favorite turn based games.  Would love for something of that nature to come out again.  Loved the combat system and being able to recruit/train up troops and heroes.  Nothing like running over a unit of goblins with heavy cavalry.

Matter of fact I still have it on a compilation disc somewhere around here... I may have to go hunt it down... the drawback being the copy protection scheme that requires you to look up a city picture and then find a word in the description.

Bah... found the game, but can't get it to run under vista... says 'does not support full screen mode' which confuses me.  Maybe I can still figure it out.
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2008, 03:53:56 AM »

I checked out Sword of Aragon. Reminds me of King's Bounty a bit. What was it about Sword of Aragon that was compelling?

Decided to give Master of Magic a try again too. Lost on easy in ten minutes to Raiding Lizardmen. Man am I bad at these games lol. But I love them.  nod
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