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« on: October 27, 2013, 09:03:39 PM »

So, it looks like games on your platform of choice this new generation are going to be HUGE.

Just saw on Twitter, that Knack will be 37GB after install. That goes with the 49GB install on Ghosts and 40GB on Killzone. So, why are the hard drives only 500GB? Seems kind of small now doesn't it? With USB drives not being supported at launch for either platform, what are XB1 owners going to do? PS4 owners can of course just swap out the drive like they do on the PS3...but I believe that is still not an option on the XB1.

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM »

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM »

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2013, 09:30:34 PM »

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

I doubt I'll run out of space before that is implemented.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2013, 09:41:17 PM »

As I wrote in one of these other threads yesterday, it's been announced that a full install of PS4 games is optional. The default is to use the listed space as a cache. This means that if you've got 10 games that list that they use 50 GB each, they might (the details are fuzzy) only end up using 50 GB total since they'll just be deleting files as you swap between the games.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2013, 10:00:56 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on October 27, 2013, 09:41:17 PM

As I wrote in one of these other threads yesterday, it's been announced that a full install of PS4 games is optional. The default is to use the listed space as a cache. This means that if you've got 10 games that list that they use 50 GB each, they might (the details are fuzzy) only end up using 50 GB total since they'll just be deleting files as you swap between the games.

That's good to hear!

Any news on the XB1? Are they still forcing full installs?
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2013, 11:56:13 PM »

It looks like I will be shelling out for a 1 or 2 Tb drive to swap in at launch for the PS4. Which means WAY less hassle down the road when my 500gig HD runs out of space.

Of course that isn't an option for the Bone. One more notch.  paranoid
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2013, 12:04:54 AM »

Quote from: Hetz on October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.

How many people would have 8+ games they are actually playing installed at once. If its more than 5% I'd be very surprised.

Besides the PS4 will have the easy HD upgrade just like the PS3 did.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2013, 12:08:54 AM »

Quote from: Jumangi on October 28, 2013, 12:04:54 AM

Quote from: Hetz on October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.

How many people would have 8+ games they are actually playing installed at once. If its more than 5% I'd be very surprised.

Besides the PS4 will have the easy HD upgrade just like the PS3 did.

That's true but you have to remember that DLing a game that is 30 gigs is not that appealing, so I want all the space I can have so I don't have to DL a game twice. I can't stress this enough when my DL speed is currently capped at 320k.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 10:00:45 AM »

Quote from: Jumangi on October 28, 2013, 12:04:54 AM

Quote from: Hetz on October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.

Besides the PS4 will have the easy HD upgrade just like the PS3 did.

Are you sure about that? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't have the option like the PS3 to swap HD's.?
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2013, 10:03:47 AM »

Quote from: Razgon on October 28, 2013, 10:00:45 AM

Quote from: Jumangi on October 28, 2013, 12:04:54 AM

Quote from: Hetz on October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.

Besides the PS4 will have the easy HD upgrade just like the PS3 did.

Are you sure about that? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't have the option like the PS3 to swap HD's.?

You remember wrong. The ability to upgrade the HD on the PS4 was announced very early, and we already have walkthroughs on how to do it. Likewise, it was announced early on that the Xbox One won't have this ability, instead opting for external hard drives. The PS4's solution is more effective, but the Xbox One's solution is simpler for the consumer. The Xbox One won't support either option at launch though, instead promising that external hard drives will be supported in a future firmware patch.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2013, 10:49:43 AM »

Quote from: TiLT on October 28, 2013, 10:03:47 AM

Quote from: Razgon on October 28, 2013, 10:00:45 AM

Quote from: Jumangi on October 28, 2013, 12:04:54 AM

Quote from: Hetz on October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.

Besides the PS4 will have the easy HD upgrade just like the PS3 did.

Are you sure about that? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't have the option like the PS3 to swap HD's.?

You remember wrong. The ability to upgrade the HD on the PS4 was announced very early, and we already have walkthroughs on how to do it. Likewise, it was announced early on that the Xbox One won't have this ability, instead opting for external hard drives. The PS4's solution is more effective, but the Xbox One's solution is simpler for the consumer. The Xbox One won't support either option at launch though, instead promising that external hard drives will be supported in a future firmware patch.

That's very nice! My old 60 GB PS3 is struggling right now, with just one game installed, since it requires twice the size of the game to download and install.
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 11:52:50 AM »

Quote from: Jumangi on October 28, 2013, 12:04:54 AM

Quote from: Hetz on October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.

How many people would have 8+ games they are actually playing installed at once. If its more than 5% I'd be very surprised.

Besides the PS4 will have the easy HD upgrade just like the PS3 did.
I'm not playing them at once (in fact, I'm not playing any right now) but I've got about 20 games installed on my PS3. I suppose I don't need them all installed but it's nice to browse through them and be able to start up one at any time. If they weren't installed I would probably forget that I had even bought them!
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 01:41:24 PM »

Quote from: Jumangi on October 28, 2013, 12:04:54 AM

Quote from: Hetz on October 27, 2013, 09:29:47 PM

Quote from: Purge on October 27, 2013, 09:20:34 PM

THey already announced the XB1 will allow added HDD space  via USB3 IIRC. It's not in place as of yet.

Right, which is why I said it didn't support it at launch. I know it will later. If someone were to get 8-10 games at launch (not even counting downloadable things), are they just SOL? Can you even replace the drive in the XB1? I honestly don't know.

How many people would have 8+ games they are actually playing installed at once. If its more than 5% I'd be very surprised.


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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2013, 04:22:42 PM »

lol.. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2013, 01:14:19 PM »

Quote from: paulstraytalker on October 30, 2013, 04:22:42 PM

lol.. Roll Eyes

Your comment and smiley seem to be at odds with each other.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2013, 04:43:14 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on October 31, 2013, 01:14:19 PM

Quote from: paulstraytalker on October 30, 2013, 04:22:42 PM

lol.. Roll Eyes

Your comment and smiley seem to be at odds with each other.

maybe lol.. icon_lol?
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2013, 09:06:49 PM »

Perhaps he has an optical twitch. It's not cool to make fun of people, Bullwinkle.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2013, 09:08:47 PM »

or maybe he was LOLing so hard his eyes rolled back.
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2013, 01:46:44 AM »

Quote from: Purge on October 31, 2013, 09:06:49 PM

Perhaps he has an optical twitch. It's not cool to make fun of people, Bullwinkle.

Whatever, gloompatch.
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2013, 02:47:11 AM »

Hey! I'm being considerate!
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2013, 01:46:07 PM »

I just picked up this HD from Newegg for $59.99. The RPM's are a bit slower than the stock PS4 drive, but I honestly doubt it will be noticable. So on day one I will install this bad boy and have 1Tb at my disposal. This is why Sony's decision to go with stock 2.5" drives is so nice.

You have to use the code EMCWWXW26 to get it down to $60.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2013, 01:58:00 PM »

There hasn't been much talk of non-AAA games in this discussion, but the developers of Resogun have revealed that their game comes in at considerably less than 1 GB.
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2013, 04:43:29 PM »

I expect Flower to be the same. slywink
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