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« Reply #960 on: May 30, 2010, 01:53:06 AM »

Quote from: Turtle on May 30, 2010, 01:44:20 AM

Yeah, there's only so many resources you can devote to a game, best to dedicate them to characters and events happening in the current area focus, rather than all over the place. It also cuts down on travel times.

Eh, with fast travel always available I don't think it's an issue
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« Reply #961 on: May 30, 2010, 02:02:16 AM »

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 12:15:27 AM

WTF jztemple.

That wasn't the ending of the game. There are some missions with the character Reyes. Some of the last missions with him involve a lot of riding, just like missions with other characters, and he rambles on quite a long time. Sheesh, I know not to post spoilers.

Regarding the other thing, I thought that was common knowledge in the game. It's in the intro to the manual for heaven's sake.
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« Reply #962 on: May 30, 2010, 02:06:03 AM »

I wish that they would allow fast travel from save rooms and not just camp sites. It's annoying when you die and you have to run outside somewhere so you can fast travel.
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« Reply #963 on: May 30, 2010, 02:06:10 AM »

Quote from: jztemple2 on May 30, 2010, 02:02:16 AM

It's in the intro to the manual for heaven's sake.

wait, you expect people around here to read?



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« Reply #964 on: May 30, 2010, 02:15:21 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 02:06:10 AM

Quote from: jztemple2 on May 30, 2010, 02:02:16 AM

It's in the intro to the manual for heaven's sake.

wait, you expect people around here to read?



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haven't even cracked open the manual.  Opened up the fold out map once.
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« Reply #965 on: May 30, 2010, 02:21:22 AM »

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 02:15:21 AM


haven't even cracked open the manual.  Opened up the fold out map once.

That's a map? I only looked at soft-core porn picture on the other side.
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« Reply #966 on: May 30, 2010, 02:21:52 AM »

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 02:15:21 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 02:06:10 AM

Quote from: jztemple2 on May 30, 2010, 02:02:16 AM

It's in the intro to the manual for heaven's sake.

wait, you expect people around here to read?



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haven't even cracked open the manual.  Opened up the fold out map once.

I just looked, I guess it would have made things make a bit more sense in the beginning.
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« Reply #967 on: May 30, 2010, 04:50:07 AM »

LOL, I'm Buckin' Awesome!

[edit] kill 2 cougars... WITH MY KNIFE?  are they @#$(*&% insane?
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« Reply #968 on: May 30, 2010, 04:58:00 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 04:50:07 AM

[edit] kill 2 cougars... WITH MY KNIFE?  are they @#$(*&% insane?

That's my opinion.  Especially since I just discovered that dead-eye apparently doesn't work with a knife.
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« Reply #969 on: May 30, 2010, 05:14:52 AM »

Stock up on medicine, you'll need it.
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« Reply #970 on: May 30, 2010, 05:45:08 AM »

Quote from: Booner on May 29, 2010, 10:50:21 PM

I have to agree that the characters have become typical 'Rockstar' once you make it to Mexico. Which has been a bit disappointing because the first main characters you get to know were so strong. It hasn't stopped my enjoyment of the game (which I still find great), but if everyone had stayed as compelling as Bonnie, the Marshall, and even Landon Ricketts, it could have been my favorite game of all time.

OK...I've progressed through a good bit of the story tonight (down to 5 missions) and I have to say that it looks like the characters are going to close out as strong as the beginning. The writing and the storylines for the people at Beecher's Hope has been refreshing after the over-the-topness of Mexico...I can connect again.

So...if you're not 'feeling it' through the middle section of the story, stay with it as it comes back around.

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« Reply #971 on: May 30, 2010, 05:57:15 AM »

Quote from: Turtle on May 30, 2010, 05:14:52 AM

Stock up on medicine, you'll need it.

forget medicine, I need a knife that teleports to the target and still counts as a melee attack: I hit them once and they run like little bitches.
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« Reply #972 on: May 30, 2010, 06:22:37 AM »

ok, Survivalist 10.. WTF?  Collect 10 Violet Snowdrop...  and then:

Spoiler for Hiden:
2 more of EVERY herb available.
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« Reply #973 on: May 30, 2010, 06:44:14 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 06:22:37 AM

ok, Survivalist 10.. WTF?  Collect 10 Violet Snowdrop...  and then:

Spoiler for Hiden:
2 more of EVERY herb available.

Survivalist map and a fast horse.  thumbsup

Spoiler for Hiden:
I did this in around 30 minutes earlier. I remembered roughly where and what types were located in West Elizabeth, so I grabbed those in a hurry, then made my way to Armadillo via fast travel. I sold everything in my pack that wasn't a Violet Snowdrop. Then I rode out just west of town, popped the map and grabbed up everything I came across at first...then keeping track of what was in my pack I rode for Mexico and headed east once across the border. Originally I'd intended to stop in Chuparosa to grab another map, but things went so smoothly through New Austin that it wasn't needed.

I was dreading this one too...but it really wasn't so bad once I had the 10 Violets.

Now all I have left is Sharpshooter 10 and I'm having a hell of a time trying to complete it. I made it once, but as soon as I got the notice I took a bullet to the brain and it didn't take.  Head meets wall

Sharpshooter 10 is...

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Disarming 6 men without reloading or changing weapons
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« Reply #974 on: May 30, 2010, 07:22:07 AM »

Quote from: ydejin on May 30, 2010, 04:58:00 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 04:50:07 AM

[edit] kill 2 cougars... WITH MY KNIFE?  are they @#$(*&% insane?

That's my opinion.  Especially since I just discovered that dead-eye apparently doesn't work with a knife.

aha!  they don't say anything about shooting them once to weaken them before stabbing them, and when you shoot them they don't tend to run away.
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« Reply #975 on: May 30, 2010, 07:35:29 AM »

Quote from: Booner on May 30, 2010, 06:44:14 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 06:22:37 AM

ok, Survivalist 10.. WTF?  Collect 10 Violet Snowdrop...  and then:

Spoiler for Hiden:
2 more of EVERY herb available.

Survivalist map and a fast horse.  thumbsup

Spoiler for Hiden:
I did this in around 30 minutes earlier. I remembered roughly where and what types were located in West Elizabeth, so I grabbed those in a hurry, then made my way to Armadillo via fast travel. I sold everything in my pack that wasn't a Violet Snowdrop. Then I rode out just west of town, popped the map and grabbed up everything I came across at first...then keeping track of what was in my pack I rode for Mexico and headed east once across the border. Originally I'd intended to stop in Chuparosa to grab another map, but things went so smoothly through New Austin that it wasn't needed.

I was dreading this one too...but it really wasn't so bad once I had the 10 Violets.

yeah, it was pretty easy, plus they seem to have worded it wrong; I started collecting before I got the first item and it all counted anyways.  plus I got lucky:

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the area I picked to fast travel to in Mexico had all 3 remaining herbs practically bunched together,

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« Reply #976 on: May 30, 2010, 07:38:50 AM »

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 12:25:58 AM

I really want to abuse my powers and ban him, but I'm too honest

CAnt you ban him? please? Or at least spoiler up his post...

dammit - this is pretty god damn annoying...
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« Reply #977 on: May 30, 2010, 08:44:12 AM »

Quote from: Razgon on May 30, 2010, 07:38:50 AM

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 12:25:58 AM

I really want to abuse my powers and ban him, but I'm too honest

CAnt you ban him? please? Or at least spoiler up his post...

dammit - this is pretty god damn annoying...

As someone else pointed out above, it's not a fricking spoiler! Stop complaining!

As for the challenges that require you to do multiple things that can be hard to keep track of, such as the Survivalist challenges, you can click Y (on the 360) when looking at it to get a detailed overview of what you have done so far. It really helps and means that you don't have to sell stuff just to keep track through your inventory. You'll see a list saying stuff like "You've collected 0 of 10 Snowdrop. 0 of 2 Red Sage" and so on.
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« Reply #978 on: May 30, 2010, 10:15:58 AM »

Quote from: TiLT on May 30, 2010, 08:44:12 AM

Quote from: Razgon on May 30, 2010, 07:38:50 AM

Quote from: naednek on May 30, 2010, 12:25:58 AM

I really want to abuse my powers and ban him, but I'm too honest

CAnt you ban him? please? Or at least spoiler up his post...

dammit - this is pretty god damn annoying...

As someone else pointed out above, it's not a fricking spoiler! Stop complaining!

As for the challenges that require you to do multiple things that can be hard to keep track of, such as the Survivalist challenges, you can click Y (on the 360) when looking at it to get a detailed overview of what you have done so far. It really helps and means that you don't have to sell stuff just to keep track through your inventory. You'll see a list saying stuff like "You've collected 0 of 10 Snowdrop. 0 of 2 Red Sage" and so on.


Hey, Tilt - stop trying to decide what people can and cannot write - and its NOT in the manual - all it states is that its the government...nothing about the other part, okay?
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« Reply #979 on: May 30, 2010, 10:38:37 AM »

What other part? With the way posts are being edited I can't check any more.
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« Reply #980 on: May 30, 2010, 12:10:29 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on May 30, 2010, 10:38:37 AM

What other part? With the way posts are being edited I can't check any more.

Well, I'm not going to write it again ;-)
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« Reply #981 on: May 30, 2010, 02:31:25 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 07:22:07 AM

Quote from: ydejin on May 30, 2010, 04:58:00 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 04:50:07 AM

[edit] kill 2 cougars... WITH MY KNIFE?  are they @#$(*&% insane?

That's my opinion.  Especially since I just discovered that dead-eye apparently doesn't work with a knife.

aha!  they don't say anything about shooting them once to weaken them before stabbing them, and when you shoot them they don't tend to run away.

Yep, that's how I did it. I'd go into Dead Eye and shoot them once with the revolver in the hind leg. They'd start running away slowly and I'd just run up and stab them.
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« Reply #982 on: May 30, 2010, 03:13:33 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on May 30, 2010, 12:10:29 PM

Quote from: TiLT on May 30, 2010, 10:38:37 AM

What other part? With the way posts are being edited I can't check any more.

Well, I'm not going to write it again ;-)

I wasn't even half way through the game when I posted, so I certainly didn't give away anything from the end, which btw I still haven't gotten to. I based my comment on what was written in the manual and what Marston says in the first couple of missions. I've finally gotten to Blackwater and I still haven't figured out what the hell the government is up to.
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« Reply #983 on: May 30, 2010, 03:52:24 PM »

I love that they use the Wilhelm Scream often when someone is shot.
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« Reply #984 on: May 30, 2010, 04:10:47 PM »

started to watch the short film that was aired last night, until I realized it was a mashup of the cutscenes in the game.  Lame.  Decided to stop so I wouldn't see any spoilers.
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« Reply #985 on: May 30, 2010, 04:57:18 PM »

I cleared out the mines last night to get the gatling gun and right after I had a purple marker on the map for the "Funny Man" stranger quest. I went there and stood right on the very spot indicated on the map and saw nothing. So I left and put up camp and immediately got a message saying "Funny Man Quest Failed". WTF?

I fast-traveled to Armadillo and saved and now the quest is appearing on my map again in the same spot. It is no longer listed as "Failed" in my journal. But now I have to travel all the way across the map. It was late so I didn't bother but hopefully there is something there this time.
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« Reply #986 on: May 30, 2010, 05:12:23 PM »

Quote from: JayDee on May 30, 2010, 04:57:18 PM

I cleared out the mines last night to get the gatling gun and right after I had a purple marker on the map for the "Funny Man" stranger quest. I went there and stood right on the very spot indicated on the map and saw nothing. So I left and put up camp and immediately got a message saying "Funny Man Quest Failed". WTF?

I fast-traveled to Armadillo and saved and now the quest is appearing on my map again in the same spot. It is no longer listed as "Failed" in my journal. But now I have to travel all the way across the map. It was late so I didn't bother but hopefully there is something there this time.

you have to look

Spoiler for Hiden:
underground

more specifically:

Spoiler for Hiden:
he'll be in the mines, not on the surface, tied up and lying on the ground.
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« Reply #987 on: May 30, 2010, 05:32:58 PM »

Yeah, if a stranger quest is on a different elevation than you are at the marker should flash with an up or down arrow. 
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« Reply #988 on: May 30, 2010, 06:13:12 PM »

Just finished the story...very cool.

Without spoiling anything, you're not really finished until the credits roll.

As for spoiling the pre-credits 'ending'...

Spoiler for Hiden:
Holy crap! I had some ideas on how John's story was going to end, but I didn't expect that. Dirty bastards!!!

In the cutscene at the grave sites, after Johns demise, when it pulls back to reveal Abagail's grave too, with a thunderstorm going on, then you turn around as Jack...I knew it was time to be an outlaw! After all 'my' John went through to do the right thing and have things turn out as they did...'my' Jack has no love for the law and will damn near shoot anything with a badge...100% for Feds, local sheriffs might get a pass depending on how my day is going.

Even though I've rolled the credits..I think I'm going to continue to play and see if I can 100% this thing. Only a few outfits to finish up and sharpshooter 10.

For those that have rolled the credits...

Spoiler for Hiden:
What about a sequel or prequel?

It's going to be at least 1914, and I don't know how much 'Wild West' Jack's story would have left in it, plus all his loose ends are tied up. Ross is dead, as well as all his family...I guess they could strike a completely new tale, but John's story still has a lot of background they could milk.

I guess I would rather have a prequel. Maybe John's early days with Dutch's gang, or even a new, but tied in character. I want less civilization, more gunslinging and savagery. smile


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« Reply #989 on: May 30, 2010, 07:09:54 PM »

been picking flowers all day...that's in the game by the way paranoid

thankfully i have done all the flower challenges now and i may never need to pick another again

did the hunter missions as well...the only thing i have got left of the challenges is Sharpshooter 10(disarm 6 people),not all that sure how to go about doing that(can you kill the people afterwards before going onto the next disarm?..i use one of those Kraut guns that hold 15 bullets)

the only thing in Mexico i have left to do is the Aztec Gold Stranger mission,and for some reason it still hasn't appeared yet(i am half way through Act III missions and i have done all the other Stranger missions)


Deadlos and son stranger mission
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damn,did i laugh out loud at the outcome of that
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« Reply #990 on: May 30, 2010, 07:15:51 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 30, 2010, 07:09:54 PM

did the hunter missions as well...the only thing i have got left of the challenges is Sharpshooter 10(disarm 6 people),not all that sure how to go about doing that(can you kill the people afterwards before going onto the next disarm?..i use one of those Kraut guns that hold 15 bullets)

from what I hear it has to be 6 disarms without reloading or changing weapons, so I'd say wait to kill them until you've done all 6 disarms.
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« Reply #991 on: May 30, 2010, 07:23:51 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 07:15:51 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 30, 2010, 07:09:54 PM

did the hunter missions as well...the only thing i have got left of the challenges is Sharpshooter 10(disarm 6 people),not all that sure how to go about doing that(can you kill the people afterwards before going onto the next disarm?..i use one of those Kraut guns that hold 15 bullets)

from what I hear it has to be 6 disarms without reloading or changing weapons, so I'd say wait to kill them until you've done all 6 disarms.

The only thing you can't do is hit the reload button. You can safely finish the challenge with a weapon with any ammo capacity, even well below 6. Reloads that happen automatically (such as free reloads during dead-eye) don't count as a reload for the sake of this challenge. I did it with the sawed-off shotgun while on horseback.
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« Reply #992 on: May 30, 2010, 07:32:32 PM »

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When I had to de-hat 2 people I shot off one guy's hat and then killed him then did the same to the next and it counted.
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« Reply #993 on: May 30, 2010, 07:33:44 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on May 30, 2010, 07:23:51 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 30, 2010, 07:15:51 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 30, 2010, 07:09:54 PM

did the hunter missions as well...the only thing i have got left of the challenges is Sharpshooter 10(disarm 6 people),not all that sure how to go about doing that(can you kill the people afterwards before going onto the next disarm?..i use one of those Kraut guns that hold 15 bullets)

from what I hear it has to be 6 disarms without reloading or changing weapons, so I'd say wait to kill them until you've done all 6 disarms.

The only thing you can't do is hit the reload button. You can safely finish the challenge with a weapon with any ammo capacity, even well below 6. Reloads that happen automatically (such as free reloads during dead-eye) don't count as a reload for the sake of this challenge. I did it with the sawed-off shotgun while on horseback.




i have just watched a video of it- you can disarm the same person twice(as that was my main worry,them picking up their weapons again and shooting at me),i didn't know that,when you disarm someone for the second time it usually finishes them off...so this should be easy enough

i wasn't even aware there was a reload button icon_lol


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Total time played    101:37:24
   


definitely wrong....i'm 80.6% for a start,but my internet as been going down a lot today.....no way is it 100 hrs though(not yet)
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« Reply #994 on: May 30, 2010, 07:34:58 PM »

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did the hunter missions as well...the only thing i have got left of the challenges is Sharpshooter 10(disarm 6 people),not all that sure how to go about doing that(can you kill the people afterwards before going onto the next disarm?..i use one of those Kraut guns that hold 15 bullets)

When I had to de-hat 2 people I shot off one guy's hat and then killed him then did the same to the next and it counted.

you could do that with reloading though,i got half of that one on the first Act 3 mission and then got the rest of it in a hideout side mission
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« Reply #995 on: May 30, 2010, 07:44:41 PM »

OK, finished the game, through the credits... discussion below contains post-final, final, final mission discussion.

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First of all, I was really thrown off by the whole Ranchville series of missions. Scaring off crows, herding cows, not exactly the ending I was expecting after gunning down a zillion Indians followed by Dutch. And then the Army comes to get me, I must be a pretty dangerous dude. OK, after John Marston dies, I'm thinking, what a downer kind of ending. And then we do the whole Jack Marston thing. Now I see what was intended.

 Still, the end missions were kind of a letdown. I expected we'd find out why the government was employing John Marston to do all the hunting and killing. Oh well, I guess Jack getting revenge for his father will have to do.
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« Reply #996 on: May 30, 2010, 10:14:53 PM »

About the ending:

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Yeah, I was a little disappointed in the end.  I actually thought that Marston's family would die while the Bureau was trying to kill him.  Jack getting his revenge will have to suffice
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« Reply #997 on: May 30, 2010, 10:43:49 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 29, 2010, 10:53:15 PM

I keep expecting De Santa to call someone a 'cock-a-roach'  icon_lol

LOL, I said the same thing to Hark when we were playing while in chat.
He also sounded like the head guy (same character played both roles in the movies) in Miami Vice and Fast and Furious
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« Reply #998 on: May 30, 2010, 10:46:19 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on May 29, 2010, 12:33:34 PM

I've finished all the story missions and all the ambient challenges, and I think I've done all the stranger requests too. Thought this would be enough for 100% game completion, but there's still a lot to do apparently. I guess I'll never reach that milestone.

Be warned: For some bizarre reason the game actually hides the final mission from you. I thought the game was over, but there was one more mission to go that I wouldn't have seen if I hadn't looked it up online. I have no idea why they did this.


The Ambient challenges include completing some specific random world encounters as well.
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« Reply #999 on: May 30, 2010, 10:49:42 PM »

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haven't even cracked open the manual.  Opened up the fold out map once.

That's a map? I only looked at soft-core porn picture on the other side.

You get three soft porn pictures when you do a certain Stranger mission. (pretty hilarious actually)
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