Saddle up! The Red Dead Redemption impressions thread.

[rickfc]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

[Bullwinkle]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into town.

[rickfc]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into town.

Which town???  any?

[Isgrimnur]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into town.

Which town???  any?

Spoiler for Hiden:

Zoom out on the map for a Stranger quest.

[rickfc]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into town.

Which town???  any?

Spoiler for Hiden:

Zoom out on the map for a Stranger quest.

kthxbai!

[rickfc]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into town.

Which town???  any?

Spoiler for Hiden:

Zoom out on the map for a Stranger quest.

Spoiler for Hiden:

WTF?  I didn't see shit...I went to Bonnie's ranch and then to Armadillo...and..nothing.  I looked all over the map and saw a couple of stranger quests that I started with John but never finished.  One was the movie one where I have to win a game of liar's dice in Thieves Landing and the other was some dude that wants to fly in Mexico.  Other than that, I bought a paper and found that the agent that killed John retired to some small cabin by a lake in Cholla Springs, but I can't find anything, and I want to kill that fucker.  Thoughts?  I don't care if you guys spoil anything.  I'm done with the main storyline, so I'm not going to be upset by learning any secrets.

[Isgrimnur]

Spoiler for Hiden:

You need to look into your "Other than that" thing.

[MaxSteele]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into town.

Which town???  any?

Spoiler for Hiden:

Zoom out on the map for a Stranger quest.

Spoiler for Hiden:

WTF?  I didn't see shit...I went to Bonnie's ranch and then to Armadillo...and..nothing.  I looked all over the map and saw a couple of stranger quests that I started with John but never finished.  One was the movie one where I have to win a game of liar's dice in Thieves Landing and the other was some dude that wants to fly in Mexico.  Other than that, I bought a paper and found that the agent that killed John retired to some small cabin by a lake in Cholla Springs, but I can't find anything, and I want to kill that fucker.  Thoughts?  I don't care if you guys spoil anything.  I'm done with the main storyline, so I'm not going to be upset by learning any secrets.

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into Blackwater.  As you're entering the town, there's a gazebo nearby the train station.  There will be an agent there to talk to.

[rickfc]

Question about post-game play:

Spoiler for Hiden:

Do any other 'missions' or anything like that pop-up when playing as Jack?  I finished the main storyline yesterday, but didn't get to do much as Jack other than ride the horse for a bit...

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into town.

Which town???  any?

Spoiler for Hiden:

Zoom out on the map for a Stranger quest.

Spoiler for Hiden:

WTF?  I didn't see shit...I went to Bonnie's ranch and then to Armadillo...and..nothing.  I looked all over the map and saw a couple of stranger quests that I started with John but never finished.  One was the movie one where I have to win a game of liar's dice in Thieves Landing and the other was some dude that wants to fly in Mexico.  Other than that, I bought a paper and found that the agent that killed John retired to some small cabin by a lake in Cholla Springs, but I can't find anything, and I want to kill that fucker.  Thoughts?  I don't care if you guys spoil anything.  I'm done with the main storyline, so I'm not going to be upset by learning any secrets.

Spoiler for Hiden:

Head into Blackwater.  As you're entering the town, there's a gazebo nearby the train station.  There will be an agent there to talk to.

THANK YOU.

[CeeKay]

Spoiler for Hiden:

I like traffic lights, but only when they're green.

[metallicorphan]

Spoiler for Hiden:

I like traffic lights, but only when they're green.

Spoiler for Hiden:

not heard that for years....MP FTW!!...and that doesn't mean Multiplayer

[CeeKay]

Red Dead Record?

[Caine]

Red Dead Record?

odd people.  i thought this news was for a sales record. 

[rshetts2]

whats suprises me is that 40 hours of consecutive game play would actually be a record, I figured the currrent record would be higher than that.  Im thinking CeeKay needs to contact Guiness.  Im sure hes posted new threads for at least 40 consecutive hours, probably on several occasions.

[Daehawk]

The music for Red Dead. Love the harmonica. Still want  to play one.

[CeeKay]

finally got back to this the other night for a bit.  I'm not sure I'm feeling the magic anymore 

[whiteboyskim]

finally got back to this the other night for a bit.  I'm not sure I'm feeling the magic anymore 

Ditto. Just trying to beat it now. May rack up a few achievements for good measure but then I'm done.

[Caine]

i hear you on that ceekay.  i have a handful of achievements that wouldn't take more than a night to get and i'd rather be playing something else, even on the pc without some form of gs tracking. 

i have a buddy who is pretty determined to get the 1100 though and has since gotten more of them than i have.  at the rate i see him on live, he might soon pass my mp rank on the way to 50 too. 

[whiteboyskim]

I'm on the final few missions now and I swear to God that Rockstar couldn't understand dramatic pacing if someone held guns to their heads. At this point, I'm all about closing it out, finishing a few other things, and then I'm done. This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played... since GTA4. Fancy that. I love the atmosphere, hate the core game. Sigh. Another failure by Rockstar that others in the gaming press went ga-ga for.

[msduncan]

I'm on the final few missions now and I swear to God that Rockstar couldn't understand dramatic pacing if someone held guns to their heads. At this point, I'm all about closing it out, finishing a few other things, and then I'm done. This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played... since GTA4. Fancy that. I love the atmosphere, hate the core game. Sigh. Another failure by Rockstar that others in the gaming press went ga-ga for.

And yet you played through the whole shitty thing until the very end.

[CeeKay]

I'm on the final few missions now and I swear to God that Rockstar couldn't understand dramatic pacing if someone held guns to their heads. At this point, I'm all about closing it out, finishing a few other things, and then I'm done. This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played... since GTA4. Fancy that. I love the atmosphere, hate the core game. Sigh. Another failure by Rockstar that others in the gaming press went ga-ga for.

And yet you played through the whole shitty thing until the very end.

of course you have to play the whole thing through if you want to be able to rip on it with any kind of authority 

[whiteboyskim]

I'm on the final few missions now and I swear to God that Rockstar couldn't understand dramatic pacing if someone held guns to their heads. At this point, I'm all about closing it out, finishing a few other things, and then I'm done. This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played... since GTA4. Fancy that. I love the atmosphere, hate the core game. Sigh. Another failure by Rockstar that others in the gaming press went ga-ga for.

And yet you played through the whole shitty thing until the very end.

of course you have to play the whole thing through if you want to be able to rip on it with any kind of authority 

Basically. I've made complaints in the past about certain games and been roundly bashed with the caveat "oh, well you didn't play it enough." Aside from being a blatant achievement whore, I do genuinely love the Wild West and RDR got the atmosphere down cold. Riding around just doing things is what's fun. But the second the story kicks in, it becomes Days of Our Lives in Dusters.

[Purge]

No, it's more like Aesop's Fables retold by Ann Rand on Quaaludes.

There isn't one single story that has a happy ending, and there's a whole BUNCH of stories. It's nihilism despite success; I understand wanting grim, but really? John Marston was a loser-magnet.

[CeeKay]

The whole 'mission is going fine oh wait the car/wagon/horse has broken down' bit really annoyed me the other night. I just shut down the 360 at that point, didn't even pay attention to see if it might have been saving.

[Teggy]

I thought I had a great time with the game but I guess I just got tricked by the gaming press.

[CeeKay]

Don't get me wrong, I had a blast with the game until I put it down and got back to it months later.

[Bullwinkle]

I thought I had a great time with the game but I guess I just got tricked by the gaming press.

+1

I think, apart from weak parts in Mexico, the story was told very well, and the pacing was remarkable.

[MaxSteele]

I'm on the final few missions now and I swear to God that Rockstar couldn't understand dramatic pacing if someone held guns to their heads. At this point, I'm all about closing it out, finishing a few other things, and then I'm done. This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played... since GTA4. Fancy that. I love the atmosphere, hate the core game. Sigh. Another failure by Rockstar that others in the gaming press went ga-ga for.

And yet you played through the whole shitty thing until the very end.

of course you have to play the whole thing through if you want to be able to rip on it with any kind of authority 

Basically. I've made complaints in the past about certain games and been roundly bashed with the caveat "oh, well you didn't play it enough." Aside from being a blatant achievement whore, I do genuinely love the Wild West and RDR got the atmosphere down cold. Riding around just doing things is what's fun. But the second the story kicks in, it becomes Days of Our Lives in Dusters.

I think the "You didn't play it enough" argument is the same as the "Let's see you make a better game!" argument.  Neither really address the issue someone is having with the game.  They're only used to refute the opinion of someone without giving any acknowledgment to the opinion itself.

[Bullwinkle]

I'm on the final few missions now and I swear to God that Rockstar couldn't understand dramatic pacing if someone held guns to their heads. At this point, I'm all about closing it out, finishing a few other things, and then I'm done. This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played... since GTA4. Fancy that. I love the atmosphere, hate the core game. Sigh. Another failure by Rockstar that others in the gaming press went ga-ga for.

And yet you played through the whole shitty thing until the very end.

of course you have to play the whole thing through if you want to be able to rip on it with any kind of authority 

Basically. I've made complaints in the past about certain games and been roundly bashed with the caveat "oh, well you didn't play it enough." Aside from being a blatant achievement whore, I do genuinely love the Wild West and RDR got the atmosphere down cold. Riding around just doing things is what's fun. But the second the story kicks in, it becomes Days of Our Lives in Dusters.

I think the "You didn't play it enough" argument is the same as the "Let's see you make a better game!" argument.  Neither really address the issue someone is having with the game.  They're only used to refute the opinion of someone without giving any acknowledgment to the opinion itself.

Sometimes, but it is also true that people have made their minds up about a game ten minutes in or given up after an hour, and that is not enough time.

[wonderpug]

I'm on the final few missions now and I swear to God that Rockstar couldn't understand dramatic pacing if someone held guns to their heads. At this point, I'm all about closing it out, finishing a few other things, and then I'm done. This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played... since GTA4. Fancy that. I love the atmosphere, hate the core game. Sigh. Another failure by Rockstar that others in the gaming press went ga-ga for.

And yet you played through the whole shitty thing until the very end.

of course you have to play the whole thing through if you want to be able to rip on it with any kind of authority 

Basically. I've made complaints in the past about certain games and been roundly bashed with the caveat "oh, well you didn't play it enough." Aside from being a blatant achievement whore, I do genuinely love the Wild West and RDR got the atmosphere down cold. Riding around just doing things is what's fun. But the second the story kicks in, it becomes Days of Our Lives in Dusters.

I think the "You didn't play it enough" argument is the same as the "Let's see you make a better game!" argument.  Neither really address the issue someone is having with the game.  They're only used to refute the opinion of someone without giving any acknowledgment to the opinion itself.

Sometimes they could be the same, but I think more often "you didn't play it enough" means that the game takes a while to get into.  I see a lot of people give up on games while they're essentially still in the tutorial stage, and while a valid complaint may be that the game's intro is too long or uncompelling, I don't think it's far enough to judge the game itself.

[Razgon]

Depends on how you "judge" a game - If you judge a game according to your own likes and dislikes, well, then its exactly as you say it is. If you judge a game based on its own merits, its genre, contemporaries and in general in comparison to other current games, then its more of a technical judgement, and not subject to as much personal bias.

I think what people react to is the strong words that people like WBS use about the game . I liked the game, a lot - that means, when someone says its "This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played" I react strongly to the words, as of course was the intention behind the words.

[Bullwinkle]

Depends on how you "judge" a game - If you judge a game according to your own likes and dislikes, well, then its exactly as you say it is. If you judge a game based on its own merits, its genre, contemporaries and in general in comparison to other current games, then its more of a technical judgement, and not subject to as much personal bias.

I think what people react to is the strong words that people like WBS use about the game . I liked the game, a lot - that means, when someone says its "This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played" I react strongly to the words, as of course was the intention behind the words.

That was nicely summed up, Raz.

It's, of course, perfectly fine to judge a game based on your personal tastes.  You're playing it, you get to decide whether you like it or not.  But make your review or impression reflect that.  Often, the comments will make the jump to categorically dismissing something as though it was a technical judgement (with some explosive language), when it's really personal.

[naednek]

I think, apart from weak parts in Mexico, the story was told very well, and the pacing was remarkable slow and uneven.

[semiconscious]

Depends on how you "judge" a game - If you judge a game according to your own likes and dislikes, well, then its exactly as you say it is. If you judge a game based on its own merits, its genre, contemporaries and in general in comparison to other current games, then its more of a technical judgement, and not subject to as much personal bias.

I think what people react to is the strong words that people like WBS use about the game . I liked the game, a lot - that means, when someone says its "This is the most overwritten, self indulgent bullshit-fest I've played" I react strongly to the words, as of course was the intention behind the words.

well put, dude ...

when i judge a game, i try to include, & delineate between, both sets of criteria. & when i read impressions of games that don't do this, i don't feel like i've really learned as much about the games as i have about the people giving the impressions ...

afa rdr in particular, i had a great time - for all the parts i wasn't crazy about, there was much more i was constantly impressed by. &, as i think back on it, it's a game i'd consider falling into the 'whole is greater than the sum of the parts' category, & one in which the incredibly detailed environment, & overall ambiance, itself pretty much steals the show - iow, while experiencing the gameworld as marsden may've had it's ups'n'downs, experiencing the gameworld, period, was just plain amazing (&, if you haven't checked out this digital foundry time-lapse video, you should)...

[Caine]

the first of the paid DLC's are now available, called legends and killers.

for $10, you get all this:
eight "new" characters from Red Dead Revolver
nine new mp maps
tomahawk throwing weapon

i would hazard a guess and say that this isn't going to be all that popular around these parts.  even if you look at this as a map pack (which makes it single-handedly more of a value than the MW2 map packs) i don't think the buy-in is going to be very large. 

which prompts the next question, who here is still playing this one at all?

[Razgon]

Since I finished the sP portion, I havent played it at all...last time I tried, the matchmaking didnt work at all

[JCC]

I started the game on Sunday. It's very fun.

[Daehawk]

I just finished it. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE THE ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The way they let me play as i want the whole game then take away any control at the end SUCKS. I hate them.

Spoiler for Hiden:

Why ?????????? I could have killed the whole bunch of them. I could have riden off with my wife and child and started over. Why didn't they let me kill those backstabbing bastards!????? Theres nothing more in the whole game that i wanted to do was go kill those two shits that made me do everything. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF,. &*(^%*&%&*%&((%^$$#@$#%@!@@$%#%@@#$#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HATE THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that it???? John dies and all I can do is ride around and do nothing as his son??? LAME. Let me hunt those shits down and KILL them!!! Geezus Im so pissed now. Horrible story ending. it's unresolved till I kill them. John should live. BULLSHIT on Rockstar. Up their's.

[CeeKay]

I started the game on Sunday. It's very fun.

just don't leave it halfway through.  hard to get back in.

[Isgrimnur]

Daehawk, it's not quite over. 

Spoiler for Hiden:

You need to head back into Blackwater, I believe.