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« on: September 23, 2010, 07:59:34 AM »

well, as long as GOG isn't pulling any more shenanigans I'll be grabbing Baldur's Gate tomorrow and hopefully be playing it all the way through.  I remember getting it when it originally came out and playing some, but then a friend of mine who was playing on the same PC accidentally saved over my save game and after that I could never get back into it, especially the first chapter where a piece of paper could knock your character over.  On the plus side load times should be non-existent, unlike when the first game came out.  Hopefully there's a widescreen mod that will work with the GOG release too.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 08:18:57 AM »

I suggest getting the mod that links BG and BG2 with expansions, and you get the interface of BG2 in BG as well. Its pretty damn good. Megamod I think its called - I'll try and dig up a link or two for it.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 08:21:39 AM »

Quote from: Razgon on September 23, 2010, 08:18:57 AM

I suggest getting the mod that links BG and BG2 with expansions, and you get the interface of BG2 in BG as well. Its pretty damn good. Megamod I think its called - I'll try and dig up a link or two for it.

thanks Raz.  I don't have BG2 though, so I don't think it'll matter.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 04:11:11 PM »

ah ok - well, there are some pretty god mods for BG1 as well, as far as I remember - try searching for Megamod and see if you find anything intersting :-)
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 04:31:34 PM »

bought it as soon as i could get into their site.

now i just need to keep bugging razgon with pm's for the megamod and how to install it....
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 04:39:13 PM »

you didnt send me anything!

you never do anymore :-(

not after I send you those pictures of me in my relaxation clothes...
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 04:39:39 PM »

I have BG1 and 2, but need the expansions.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 04:49:30 PM »

I still have my BG discs floating around here somewhere, but I could never get very far into BG2. I literally could never finish the first dungeon. Pathetic, I know.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 05:04:19 PM »

Lower than pathetic  icon_wink
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 05:20:13 PM »

Quote from: Eel Snave on September 23, 2010, 04:49:30 PM

I still have my BG discs floating around here somewhere, but I could never get very far into BG2. I literally could never finish the first dungeon. Pathetic, I know.

I got further than you, but I never finished either.  I also have my discs floating around.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2010, 05:25:47 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on September 23, 2010, 04:39:13 PM

you didnt send me anything!

you never do anymore :-(

not after I send you those pictures of me in my relaxation clothes...

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but in all seriousness, you better be prepared to provide support in this thread for the folks who are going to try to install the megamod this weekend.   icon_wink
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 05:31:34 PM »

Quote from: Eel Snave on September 23, 2010, 04:49:30 PM

I still have my BG discs floating around here somewhere, but I could never get very far into BG2. I literally could never finish the first dungeon. Pathetic, I know.

FWIW, the opening dungeon is the worst part of the entire game.  In fact, there's a number of mods that start your party outside that dungeon (one of them is even called "Dungeon-B-Gone", which is where the game really starts to shine.

I played through BGII a couple years back, and had a great time with it.  Got burned out before finishing the expansion though.  Ugly sprites aside, the Infinity Engine games have actually aged quite well, and BGII is a wonderfully epic tale.  Be sure to track down the widescreen mods for it, as they make a world of difference.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 06:26:55 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on September 23, 2010, 05:25:47 PM

Quote from: Razgon on September 23, 2010, 04:39:13 PM

you didnt send me anything!

you never do anymore :-(

not after I send you those pictures of me in my relaxation clothes...

 icon_lol

but in all seriousness, you better be prepared to provide support in this thread for the folks who are going to try to install the megamod this weekend.   icon_wink

Its been a while, but I seem to remember its one of the easiest installations of a mod I ever tried. they made an awesome installer for it, and you simply select which ones you want, and the installer downloads and installs it.

Its huuuuge though - I think the mod is about 2-3 gigs...
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2010, 09:14:03 PM »

excellent!  i'll look for it tonight.  thanks for the heads up!
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2010, 11:51:38 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on September 23, 2010, 04:11:11 PM

ah ok - well, there are some pretty god mods for BG1 as well, as far as I remember - try searching for Megamod and see if you find anything intersting :-)

there's a bunch of stuff, but I think I might give it a go in it's original format.  Once they release BG 2 I'll probably do the megamod deal.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2010, 02:25:10 AM »

OK, got it installed.  wow, talk about clunky.  no choice for screen resolutions and keys can only be changed through the launcher, not in game.  graphically it doesn't look bad, but I'm running it on a netbook right now so YMMV with bigger screens.  the touch pad seems perfect for this game so far.
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2010, 03:01:20 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 24, 2010, 02:25:10 AM

OK, got it installed.  wow, talk about clunky.  no choice for screen resolutions and keys can only be changed through the launcher, not in game.  graphically it doesn't look bad, but I'm running it on a netbook right now so YMMV with bigger screens.  the touch pad seems perfect for this game so far.

sounds just like the original game.  the original BG didn't have any resolution options and was stuck at what would now be considered pretty low res.  they didn't increase the resolution of the Infinity engine games until BG2, and even then it is still pretty low by current standards.  fortunately, the artwork in those games is good enough that it should still look decent stretched to a larger screen, or at least the backgrounds should.  the characters and interface elements will be pretty clunky.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2010, 05:56:50 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 24, 2010, 02:25:10 AM

OK, got it installed.  wow, talk about clunky.  no choice for screen resolutions and keys can only be changed through the launcher, not in game.  graphically it doesn't look bad, but I'm running it on a netbook right now so YMMV with bigger screens.  the touch pad seems perfect for this game so far.

aye, thats why many of the things in the megamod was originally made - first off, to allow you to play BG with BG2 interface. I dont know if its possible without BG2 though.
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2010, 12:07:01 PM »

Quote from: disarm on September 24, 2010, 03:01:20 AM

sounds just like the original game.  the original BG didn't have any resolution options and was stuck at what would now be considered pretty low res.  they didn't increase the resolution of the Infinity engine games until BG2, and even then it is still pretty low by current standards.  fortunately, the artwork in those games is good enough that it should still look decent stretched to a larger screen, or at least the backgrounds should.  the characters and interface elements will be pretty clunky.

http://www.gibberlings3.net/widescreen/
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2010, 01:24:19 PM »

Where can we buy BG 2 and does it work on windows 7 64?

I do not think I can go back to BG 1, but I would like to tap bg2 again if it still works and can be bought.
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2010, 02:27:38 PM »

Quote from: Morgul on September 24, 2010, 01:24:19 PM

Where can we buy BG 2 and does it work on windows 7 64?

I do not think I can go back to BG 1, but I would like to tap bg2 again if it still works and can be bought.

GOG is supposed to get it eventually.
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2010, 05:09:17 PM »

Not sure about 7 but my copy of BG2 works fine in Vista.
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2010, 01:42:38 AM »

Im thinking of re purchasing it and have been reading up on multiplayer. After reading how difficult it sounds I can't believe I ever played it MP. I recall being able to do certain maps or missions but not the full campaign. I was let down back then.
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2010, 01:44:30 AM »

Quote from: morlac on September 24, 2010, 05:09:17 PM

Not sure about 7 but my copy of BG2 works fine in Vista.

BG1 works fine udner Windows 7, so BG2 should be fine too.
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2010, 03:53:28 AM »

This thread has made me dig out all the discs.  I picked up BG: The Complete Saga after realizing my original copy in the huge slipcase went walkabout.  I also just dug out BG 2, Throne of Bhaal, and even all the old paperwork.  Somehow, my case for Tales of the Sword Coast case wound up empty.  crybaby Luckily, the BG: TCS installer tells me that it includes it.
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2010, 04:16:55 AM »

Quote from: Daehawk on September 25, 2010, 01:42:38 AM

Im thinking of re purchasing it and have been reading up on multiplayer. After reading how difficult it sounds I can't believe I ever played it MP. I recall being able to do certain maps or missions but not the full campaign. I was let down back then.

If memory serves, the entire game can be played multiplayer. But it has been...years since I've thought about playing it multiplayer.
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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2010, 12:56:31 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on September 25, 2010, 04:16:55 AM

Quote from: Daehawk on September 25, 2010, 01:42:38 AM

Im thinking of re purchasing it and have been reading up on multiplayer. After reading how difficult it sounds I can't believe I ever played it MP. I recall being able to do certain maps or missions but not the full campaign. I was let down back then.

If memory serves, the entire game can be played multiplayer. But it has been...years since I've thought about playing it multiplayer.

Correct.  Same with BG2.  Exact same campaign but playing it multiplayer enables you to create multiple characters to play with.   I always start with at least 2 self made players because I can never settle on just one.
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2010, 09:14:56 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 25, 2010, 03:53:28 AM

This thread has made me dig out all the discs.

Me too (actually, I found them yesterday).  I played a lot of BG when my second son was a baby and needed to be held upright to sleep.  I spent a lot of very late nights (back in the Gone Gold days) holding him with the left arm and playing BG with the right.  My wife thought I was a saint, letting her sleep at night and still getting up for work the next morning.

Well, now he's almost 9 years old and I still haven't gotten much past the Nashkel Mines (pitiful, I know).  It might be time to load up BG again and make some more progress.  BG2 and TOB are still unopened in The Box O' Shame and occasionally call out to me in the night.
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2010, 10:50:55 PM »

I prefer BG1 to BG2 anyway. I still have all the discs. BG1 just seems a more "level" game. More replayable as well.
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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2010, 01:35:17 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 24, 2010, 02:27:38 PM

Quote from: Morgul on September 24, 2010, 01:24:19 PM

Where can we buy BG 2 and does it work on windows 7 64?

I do not think I can go back to BG 1, but I would like to tap bg2 again if it still works and can be bought.

GOG is supposed to get it eventually.

Hey buddy, if/when  you see it toss me a pm or make a post?  Your the guy that is always "in the know".  I really like to play it again.   Go for the eyes boo!

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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2010, 02:53:08 PM »

Goddamit.  I own the original releases of both BG1 and BG2.  Never got around to actually playing them.  Never bought the expansions.  I feel like if I'm going to finally play through them, I should do it with the expansions, which means GOG gets another $20 from me.  Whenever BG2 comes out over there.
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« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2010, 03:00:57 PM »

There are other, cheaper methods to re-acquiring the full set.
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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2010, 03:26:09 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 30, 2010, 03:00:57 PM

There are other, cheaper methods to re-acquiring the full set.

Do you think the downloaded version are somehow modified to work on win 7, 64 bit or the box version will be the same and work fine?
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2010, 03:34:47 PM »

I would guess they aren't modified to work on Windows 7.  I'll hold out for the gog.com release of BG2 so I don't have to go through the hassle of addressing all the little issues that will probably arise from trying to play the original releases on a newer system.
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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2010, 03:35:47 PM »

I found a forum post from someone with the 4-in-1 that is running Windows 7 and he reported no issues.  No info on bit version.  The GOG version specifically mentions Win 7, both versions.
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2010, 03:41:39 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 30, 2010, 03:35:47 PM

I found a forum post from someone with the 4-in-1 that is running Windows 7 and he reported no issues.  No info on bit version.  The GOG version specifically mentions Win 7, both versions.

Yea, I guess I better hold out.  I seen toee there too.  (allot of people didnt like it because of the bugs, but I loved that game)
Also icewind dale...


Uhmm, maybe I will just go with BG1 and use that widescreen mod linked above.   (I might grab red baron and MoM just for kicks/nostalgia)

That gog site has some blasts from the past..
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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2010, 03:43:19 PM »

Quote from: Morgul on September 30, 2010, 03:41:39 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 30, 2010, 03:35:47 PM

I found a forum post from someone with the 4-in-1 that is running Windows 7 and he reported no issues.  No info on bit version.  The GOG version specifically mentions Win 7, both versions.

Yea, I guess I better hold out.  I seen toee there too.  (allot of people didnt like it because of the bugs, but I loved that game)
Also icewind dale...

When gog.com releases the Icewind Dale series AND Temple of Elemental Evil, I will disappear for about 6 months so I can finally finish all these freakin' fantastic games. 
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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2010, 05:38:39 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on September 30, 2010, 03:43:19 PM

Quote from: Morgul on September 30, 2010, 03:41:39 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 30, 2010, 03:35:47 PM

I found a forum post from someone with the 4-in-1 that is running Windows 7 and he reported no issues.  No info on bit version.  The GOG version specifically mentions Win 7, both versions.

Yea, I guess I better hold out.  I seen toee there too.  (allot of people didnt like it because of the bugs, but I loved that game)
Also icewind dale...

When gog.com releases the Icewind Dale series AND Temple of Elemental Evil, I will disappear for about 6 months so I can finally finish all these freakin' fantastic games.  

Those were 2 of my favorite games at the time.  Neither were dialogue heavy, and both were focused on the fun of turning things into giblets.  I liked how both IWD games were like tactical puzzle games...picking and choosing the right mix of spells and abilities in the right situation.  And those games weren't afraid to punish me for making bad tactical choices.  ToEE was an underrated experience for people that like tactical turn based games.  It's really a fun a game.  My only complaint was I wish they had released higher level modules using the same turn based engine.  

Edit to add:  I loved how criticals were handled in the BG and IWD titles.  The screen shook, and then the bad guy was turned into meat bits.  Who can ever forget the part of the story when the PC runs into Drizzt turning hobgoblins into meat bits?  I remember thinking at the time, "This guy is a badass!"  And I had no idea who he was, having never read any of the fiction.  My second thought was, "I need those swords!"  My third thought was, "Wow, that was quick", as my party lay strewn about the field in giblets of meat and piles of armor.  
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2010, 06:10:32 PM »

IWD great game...not given enough credit because it is so linear but still a lot of fun to play....

Neverwinter Nights was linear and dull because it never had the fun of IWD......
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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2010, 06:22:20 PM »

LOL, I had never read the books then either...  I think I killed drizzt...

But yea good stuff.  I went ahead and ordered BG1..  I will download tonight.

But I cannot wait to do some bg2, IWD and ToEE...  I had finished all 3 of those, but never did any of the expansions

That be enough to keep me busy for a long while, and pretty cheap too compared to those $60 PS3 games that collect dust after two weeks hah

I do not think I ever did play too far in bg1..   Maybe I was hooked on a MUD or everquest or something at the time.  Maybe it will be great and new.
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