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« Reply #240 on: May 14, 2011, 08:26:01 PM »

Quote from: ericb on May 14, 2011, 02:28:44 PM

These asshats (person/group responsible for the Sony breach) should be banned from computers and mobile phones forever even if they are minors.  They should also be sentenced to community service every week for life.  As someone who was likely hacked directly because of this breach I have absolutely zero sympathy for any of their excuses.  Not the mention the millions of people whose lost information, will be hacked, have their ID stolen or the billions in lost revenue from the trickle down effects of this.

Do you include Sony employees that were responsible for PSN/SOE?
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« Reply #241 on: May 14, 2011, 09:32:17 PM »

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Quote from: ericb on May 14, 2011, 02:28:44 PM

These asshats (person/group responsible for the Sony breach) should be banned from computers and mobile phones forever even if they are minors.  They should also be sentenced to community service every week for life.  As someone who was likely hacked directly because of this breach I have absolutely zero sympathy for any of their excuses.  Not the mention the millions of people whose lost information, will be hacked, have their ID stolen or the billions in lost revenue from the trickle down effects of this.

Do you include Sony employees that were responsible for PSN/SOE?


If you feel incompetence is a criminal act, yes.  I don't, though.  And thankfully, most reasonable human beings don't either.  Almost everything in this world can be hacked if you devote enough time and effort to the process.  Networks evolve because of this.  I'm with Ericb.  These guys are criminal assholes.  The IT team at Sony may have made mistakes, but blaming them is like blaming the homeowner who gets robbed because they forgot to lock a window one night.  
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« Reply #242 on: May 14, 2011, 09:48:49 PM »

just saw this...not very comforting

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/13/us-sony-idUSTRE74C70420110513

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Sony Corp's computer networks remain vulnerable to attack three weeks after the company learned that it had been victim of one of the biggest data breaches in history, according to an Internet security expert.

The expert found a handful of security flaws in Sony's networks while remotely studying its systems via the Internet to see how difficult it would be to penetrate the electronics giant's systems in the wake of the attacks.
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« Reply #243 on: May 14, 2011, 10:27:34 PM »

I had one online account that shared a password with my SOE info, and I intentionally hadn't changed it because I was curious if/when something would be compromised.  It happened this morning. 

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« Reply #244 on: May 14, 2011, 11:34:15 PM »

new firmware is out

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We have been working on a new PS3 system software update that requires all PSN users to change their password once PlayStation Network is restored. The update (v3.61) is mandatory and is available now.

If using a PS3, your password can only be changed on your own PS3 (or a PS3 on which your PSN account was activated), as an added layer of security. If you have never downloaded any content using your account on the system, an email will be sent to the registered sign-in ID (email address) associated with your account when you first attempt to sign-in to PSN. This e-mail will contain a link that will enable you to change your password. In this email, click on the link and follow the instructions to change your password. Once you have changed your password you can sign-in to your account using your new password.

We strongly recommend that all PSN account holders with PS3s update their systems to prepare for when PlayStation Network is back online. The release of this update is a critical step as we work to make PlayStation Network significantly more secure. Thank you for your continued support and patience.
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« Reply #245 on: May 14, 2011, 11:51:49 PM »

I will wait for when PSN is actually up to dig my PS3 back out of the Wardrobe  Tongue
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« Reply #246 on: May 15, 2011, 12:04:53 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 14, 2011, 11:51:49 PM

I will wait for when PSN is actually up to dig my PS3 back out of the Wardrobe  Tongue

It's back now

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/14/kazuo-hirai-playstation-network-relaunch-announcement/

Although, I still can't login.... =\
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« Reply #247 on: May 15, 2011, 12:07:22 AM »

I have download 3.61 and installed.  Still get "undergoing maint" message.
Waiting . . . waiting . . . waiting . . .
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« Reply #248 on: May 15, 2011, 12:10:25 AM »

So I updated and according to Sony this is supposed to make me change my password, but I'm not able to, nor am I prompted to change my password....what about you guys?
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« Reply #249 on: May 15, 2011, 12:20:06 AM »

Quote from: leo8877 on May 15, 2011, 12:10:25 AM

So I updated and according to Sony this is supposed to make me change my password, but I'm not able to, nor am I prompted to change my password....what about you guys?
won't happen until your region\state is activated.
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« Reply #250 on: May 15, 2011, 12:22:52 AM »

Quote from: ras752000 on May 15, 2011, 12:20:06 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on May 15, 2011, 12:10:25 AM

So I updated and according to Sony this is supposed to make me change my password, but I'm not able to, nor am I prompted to change my password....what about you guys?
won't happen until your region\state is activated.

Bummer, according to that video, Kaz said it should be up.  I guess they released it too soon.
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« Reply #251 on: May 15, 2011, 12:34:10 AM »

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/14/play-on-%E2%80%93-psn-restoration-begins-now/
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« Reply #252 on: May 15, 2011, 12:37:52 AM »

what if this is the hackers and they've taken over all of the Sony websites too?
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« Reply #253 on: May 15, 2011, 12:38:29 AM »

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what if this is the hackers and they've taken over all of the Sony websites too?

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« Reply #254 on: May 15, 2011, 12:43:57 AM »

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huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?
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« Reply #255 on: May 15, 2011, 12:44:47 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on May 15, 2011, 12:43:57 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on May 15, 2011, 12:34:10 AM


huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.
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« Reply #256 on: May 15, 2011, 02:05:00 AM »

EQ2 and Vanguard is back up...I also have my EQ2 account reactivated (even though I cancelled it about 6 months ago) and the 45 days added.  Probably wait until tomorrow to update the PS3 and my PSN info.
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« Reply #257 on: May 15, 2011, 02:53:21 AM »

I seem to be on PSN right now.  Huzzah?

edit -  store seems to be down, though.
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« Reply #258 on: May 15, 2011, 02:54:46 AM »

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Quote from: leo8877 on May 15, 2011, 12:34:10 AM


huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


we "acquired" it when you guys weren't looking.  you better look out.
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« Reply #259 on: May 15, 2011, 02:56:58 AM »

Quote from: kadnod on May 15, 2011, 02:53:21 AM

I seem to be on PSN right now.  Huzzah?

edit -  store seems to be down, though.

Store won't be back in this phase.
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« Reply #260 on: May 15, 2011, 03:03:00 AM »

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OMG, they've taken New England and Califor-... meh, they've taken New England!

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« Reply #261 on: May 15, 2011, 03:04:50 AM »

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Quote from: leo8877 on May 15, 2011, 12:34:10 AM


huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.

That also always include the USVI also (United States Virgin Islands)
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« Reply #262 on: May 15, 2011, 03:05:51 AM »

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Quote from: leo8877 on May 15, 2011, 12:34:10 AM


huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.

That also always include the USVI also (United States Virgin Islands)

well if it was so important why isn't it on Sony's map?  huh?  HUH?
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« Reply #263 on: May 15, 2011, 03:09:00 AM »

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huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.

That also always include the USVI also (United States Virgin Islands)

well if it was so important why isn't it on Sony's map?  huh?  HUH?

It is, see the dots off to the right of PR. Tongue
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« Reply #264 on: May 15, 2011, 03:10:23 AM »

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huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.

That also always include the USVI also (United States Virgin Islands)

well if it was so important why isn't it on Sony's map?  huh?  HUH?

It is, see the dots off to the right of PR. Tongue

yeah, but they're not named.  I mean c'mon, even Vermont got named, and that state is about as useless as tits on a bull  icon_twisted
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« Reply #265 on: May 15, 2011, 03:13:19 AM »

the video was lol-worthing.

so what companies do?
do what sony did!

you mean not upgrade your servers and not encrypt data? yeah...no. how about preventing them in the first place.
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« Reply #266 on: May 15, 2011, 03:13:40 AM »

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huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.
And No none of the territories pay taxes. Thats why they remain territories all the benefits of been American with out the taxes. Every election the option is on the ballets and every election its voted down by the people to remain a territory and not become the 51st State.
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« Reply #267 on: May 15, 2011, 03:16:53 AM »

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huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.
And No none of the territories pay taxes. Thats why they remain territories all the benefits of been American with out the taxes. Every election the option is on the ballets and every election its voted down by the people to remain a territory and not become the 51st State.

really?  I saw this on Wiki:

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The U.S. Government classifies Puerto Rico as an independent taxation authority by Federal Law 48 U.S.C. 734. Puerto Rico residents are required to pay U.S. federal taxes, import/export taxes,[100] federal commodity taxes,[101] social security taxes etc. Individuals working with the Federal Government pay federal income taxes while the rest of the residents are required to pay federal payroll taxes (Social Security[102] and Medicare),[103] as well as Commonwealth of Puerto Rico income taxes. All federal employees,[104] plus those who do business with the federal government,[105] in addition to Puerto Rico-based corporations that intend to send funds to the U.S.,[106] and some others[107] also pay federal income taxes. In 2009, Puerto Rico paid $3.742 billion into the US Treasury.[108]
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« Reply #268 on: May 15, 2011, 03:23:11 AM »

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huh,I had no idea Puerto Rico was part of the US..is it a U.S. State?


it's a territory or a commonwealth or something that pays taxes.
And No none of the territories pay taxes. Thats why they remain territories all the benefits of been American with out the taxes. Every election the option is on the ballets and every election its voted down by the people to remain a territory and not become the 51st State.

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The U.S. Government classifies Puerto Rico as an independent taxation authority by Federal Law 48 U.S.C. 734. Puerto Rico residents are required to pay U.S. federal taxes, import/export taxes,[100] federal commodity taxes,[101] social security taxes etc. Individuals working with the Federal Government pay federal income taxes while the rest of the residents are required to pay federal payroll taxes (Social Security[102] and Medicare),[103] as well as Commonwealth of Puerto Rico income taxes. All federal employees,[104] plus those who do business with the federal government,[105] in addition to Puerto Rico-based corporations that intend to send funds to the U.S.,[106] and some others[107] also pay federal income taxes. In 2009, Puerto Rico paid $3.742 billion into the US Treasury.[108]

I was talking about the USVI, IDK how Puerto Rico got themselves into that mess.. SMH
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« Reply #269 on: May 15, 2011, 01:23:14 PM »

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« Reply #270 on: May 15, 2011, 02:40:14 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on May 14, 2011, 09:32:17 PM

Quote from: Victoria Raverna on May 14, 2011, 08:26:01 PM

Quote from: ericb on May 14, 2011, 02:28:44 PM

These asshats (person/group responsible for the Sony breach) should be banned from computers and mobile phones forever even if they are minors.  They should also be sentenced to community service every week for life.  As someone who was likely hacked directly because of this breach I have absolutely zero sympathy for any of their excuses.  Not the mention the millions of people whose lost information, will be hacked, have their ID stolen or the billions in lost revenue from the trickle down effects of this.

Do you include Sony employees that were responsible for PSN/SOE?


If you feel incompetence is a criminal act, yes.  I don't, though.  And thankfully, most reasonable human beings don't either.  Almost everything in this world can be hacked if you devote enough time and effort to the process.  Networks evolve because of this.  I'm with Ericb.  These guys are criminal assholes.  The IT team at Sony may have made mistakes, but blaming them is like blaming the homeowner who gets robbed because they forgot to lock a window one night.  

While I think that the hackers are a bunch of Aholes this analogy does not correlate to Sony's responsibility in this matter.  In the above only the homeowner is affected for their negligence. When you take on people's personal information and promise it to be safe and then fail spectacularly due to what appears to be nothing more than negligence then you have to burden some of the blame.  'Sorry opps' just doesn't work.
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« Reply #271 on: May 15, 2011, 02:44:21 PM »

Right now its all circumstantial, the evidence that Sony has been negligent. They may very well have been, but saying they are without any proof isn't normally the way we go about things.

The gaming media and others with a grudge are really going at it, though.
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« Reply #272 on: May 15, 2011, 03:12:50 PM »

Michael Pachter talks about the PSN situation in this week's Pach Attack. While he isn't privy to much insider information, he does know the legal stuff and economics.
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« Reply #273 on: May 15, 2011, 04:17:40 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on May 15, 2011, 02:44:21 PM

Right now its all circumstantial, the evidence that Sony has been negligent. They may very well have been, but saying they are without any proof isn't normally the way we go about things.

The gaming media and others with a grudge are really going at it, though.


There is certainly enough smoke to at least consider the fact Sony was not diligent enough.  

http://www.pcworld.com/article/227770/experts_on_psn_hack_sony_could_have_done_more.html

'Their comments follow the congressional testimony of Gene Stafford, a computer security professor at Purdue University, who told lawmakers that Sony used an outdated version of the Apache Web server software, and had no firewall installed. Hackers compromised the PlayStation Network on April 19, stole personal data, and forced Sony to rebuild its network from the ground up--a process that is still going on.

Sony has denied Stafford's claims, but other experts who spoke with PCWorld doubt that Sony took every precaution that it could have.

"Everything I've seen suggests that this very, very much could have been prevented," said Stan Stahl, president of the Los Angeles chapter of the Information Systems Security Association, which organizes conferences for security experts."


Pcworld isn't exactly the gaming media and I'm not sure what axe Stafford has to grind against Sony but if he is willing to testify in front of Congress they must of kicked his dog really hard or something.



edit:  Also, I never claimed Sony was negligent I was merely looking at the analogy put forth By hepcat about a negligent homeowner leaving their window unlcoked.


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« Reply #274 on: May 15, 2011, 05:40:57 PM »

UK has just come back online now icon_biggrin

EDIT:someone just posted this on Kotaku icon_lol
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« Reply #275 on: May 15, 2011, 06:09:04 PM »

Still down in Norway. Not that I care much. I pretty much never play multiplayer anyway.
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« Reply #276 on: May 15, 2011, 08:10:11 PM »

Any word on the free games we'll be getting yet?
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« Reply #277 on: May 15, 2011, 08:13:55 PM »

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Any word on the free games we'll be getting yet?

They still haven't announced what the Welcome Back package will be.  Kaz's message from yesterday said that would coming in a couple days.
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« Reply #278 on: May 15, 2011, 08:31:41 PM »

Since the PSN store won't be open until the end of the month, it's a bit premature to expect announcements about it just yet. You never know though.
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« Reply #279 on: May 16, 2011, 12:46:49 AM »

Undertow : PSN Edition!
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