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« on: November 28, 2006, 10:42:41 AM »

I remember a few months ago reading horror stories about how Sony was going to make it so that only the original purchaser of a game would be able to play it on their own PS3.  So now that the PS3 is out, for those that bought it, is there any indication that you won't be able to resell your game once you tire of it?  Or were those reports all fearmongering?
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 12:19:59 PM »

Quote from: Canuck on November 28, 2006, 10:42:41 AM

I remember a few months ago reading horror stories about how Sony was going to make it so that only the original purchaser of a game would be able to play it on their own PS3.  So now that the PS3 is out, for those that bought it, is there any indication that you won't be able to resell your game once you tire of it?  Or were those reports all fearmongering?

That was simply a rumor.  Gamestop has already gotten a few used PS3 games in.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 12:25:31 PM »

Quote from: Canuck on November 28, 2006, 10:42:41 AM

I remember a few months ago reading horror stories about how Sony was going to make it so that only the original purchaser of a game would be able to play it on their own PS3.  So now that the PS3 is out, for those that bought it, is there any indication that you won't be able to resell your game once you tire of it?  Or were those reports all fearmongering?

This is unlikely for many reasons. For starters, it would start a war with all rental companies (Gamefly, Blockbuster, etc). Second, all stores that make a huge profit off used games would suffer, like EB and Gamestop, which would not be good business for Sony. Third, well, I just have to believe Sony has learned from their past mistakes (rootkits).
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 02:06:24 PM »

Also contrary to some pictures that were floating around the internet in the months before the launch, the PS3 will not grill both sides of your food at once and Knock-Out-the-Fat™.

Sony bastards™.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 03:47:12 PM »

Quote from: The_Man on November 28, 2006, 12:19:59 PM

Quote from: Canuck on November 28, 2006, 10:42:41 AM

I remember a few months ago reading horror stories about how Sony was going to make it so that only the original purchaser of a game would be able to play it on their own PS3.  So now that the PS3 is out, for those that bought it, is there any indication that you won't be able to resell your game once you tire of it?  Or were those reports all fearmongering?

That was simply a rumor.  Gamestop has already gotten a few used PS3 games in.


Not a rumor good sir...just not implemented. (yet)
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2006, 04:20:13 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 28, 2006, 03:47:12 PM

Quote from: The_Man on November 28, 2006, 12:19:59 PM

Quote from: Canuck on November 28, 2006, 10:42:41 AM

I remember a few months ago reading horror stories about how Sony was going to make it so that only the original purchaser of a game would be able to play it on their own PS3.  So now that the PS3 is out, for those that bought it, is there any indication that you won't be able to resell your game once you tire of it?  Or were those reports all fearmongering?

That was simply a rumor.  Gamestop has already gotten a few used PS3 games in.


Not a rumor good sir...just not implemented. (yet)

So Sony actually entertained the notion of making sure their games couldn't be rented through huge companies like Blockbuster (Gamefly, etc), or sold as used via Eb and Gamestop? I guess that also makes returns (from stores that allow them) out of the question. Also, you can't bring your game to a friend's house to play co-op? Anything else I missed (of course I did, come join in the fun!)?

Wow. Rootkits caused enough issues. This will destroy them in the long run. 

 
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2006, 04:28:29 PM »

Quote from: lokiju on November 28, 2006, 04:20:13 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 28, 2006, 03:47:12 PM

Quote from: The_Man on November 28, 2006, 12:19:59 PM

Quote from: Canuck on November 28, 2006, 10:42:41 AM

I remember a few months ago reading horror stories about how Sony was going to make it so that only the original purchaser of a game would be able to play it on their own PS3.  So now that the PS3 is out, for those that bought it, is there any indication that you won't be able to resell your game once you tire of it?  Or were those reports all fearmongering?

That was simply a rumor.  Gamestop has already gotten a few used PS3 games in.


Not a rumor good sir...just not implemented. (yet)

So Sony actually entertained the notion of making sure their games couldn't be rented through huge companies like Blockbuster (Gamefly, etc), or sold as used via Eb and Gamestop? I guess that also makes returns (from stores that allow them) out of the question. Also, you can't bring your game to a friend's house to play co-op? Anything else I missed (of course I did, come join in the fun!)?

It was just a patent for the technology that the rumor grew from, there's other things they could do with the concept besides locking down the normal library of games. 

  • DIVX style blu-ray rentals that you can "rent" from an ordinary store for $4 that can only be used on your system and expire after a week
  • Games you buy in a store but are small enough to fit on the hard drive.  This tech could make it so you could buy the game, install it, and then play it without putting the disc back in the drive, without allowing you to pass it on to all your friends
  • In-store expansion packs.  Similar to the above, letting you install an expansion pack and then store the disc away, without allowing you to give everyone you know the expansion pack for free.
Then again, this is Sony, so perhaps it's not irrational to assume the worst.
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2006, 06:00:22 PM »

Sony does have a patent that basically gives them the rights to do this. The question though is if they'll put it into effect.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2006, 08:19:10 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on November 28, 2006, 04:28:29 PM

Quote from: lokiju on November 28, 2006, 04:20:13 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 28, 2006, 03:47:12 PM

Quote from: The_Man on November 28, 2006, 12:19:59 PM

Quote from: Canuck on November 28, 2006, 10:42:41 AM

I remember a few months ago reading horror stories about how Sony was going to make it so that only the original purchaser of a game would be able to play it on their own PS3.  So now that the PS3 is out, for those that bought it, is there any indication that you won't be able to resell your game once you tire of it?  Or were those reports all fearmongering?

That was simply a rumor.  Gamestop has already gotten a few used PS3 games in.

The rental that expires is an unlikely possibility until the price of the discs themselves comes down in a year or two.


Not a rumor good sir...just not implemented. (yet)

So Sony actually entertained the notion of making sure their games couldn't be rented through huge companies like Blockbuster (Gamefly, etc), or sold as used via Eb and Gamestop? I guess that also makes returns (from stores that allow them) out of the question. Also, you can't bring your game to a friend's house to play co-op? Anything else I missed (of course I did, come join in the fun!)?

It was just a patent for the technology that the rumor grew from, there's other things they could do with the concept besides locking down the normal library of games. 

  • DIVX style blu-ray rentals that you can "rent" from an ordinary store for $4 that can only be used on your system and expire after a week
  • Games you buy in a store but are small enough to fit on the hard drive.  This tech could make it so you could buy the game, install it, and then play it without putting the disc back in the drive, without allowing you to pass it on to all your friends
  • In-store expansion packs.  Similar to the above, letting you install an expansion pack and then store the disc away, without allowing you to give everyone you know the expansion pack for free.
Then again, this is Sony, so perhaps it's not irrational to assume the worst.
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2006, 03:43:23 AM »

Quote from: lokiju on November 28, 2006, 12:25:31 PM

I just have to believe Sony has learned from their past mistakes (rootkits).

Haha, good one.  icon_wink
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2006, 03:51:00 AM »

Calvin, you really need to learn where to type your responses.  icon_wink
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2006, 01:41:12 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 29, 2006, 03:51:00 AM

Calvin, you really need to learn where to type your responses.  icon_wink

Nah, it's like playing "Where's Waldo"!
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2006, 07:39:40 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on November 29, 2006, 01:41:12 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 29, 2006, 03:51:00 AM

Calvin, you really need to learn where to type your responses.  icon_wink

Nah, it's like playing "Where's Waldo"!

Ok ok every one shut up. I have serious problems with quotes smile Here you go:

"The rental that expires is an unlikely possibility until the price of the discs themselves comes down in a year or two."
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