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« on: November 17, 2006, 09:02:25 PM »

Let me preface this by saying I love everything playstation and love the dual shock, so I am being totally honest here.  I stopped in at EB Games during lunchtime to try out the PS3 (I do love Sony, but not so much that I will join the launch insanity.  I'll probably wind up waiting a year or so to get a PS3 because I have a huge current-gen backlog, plus I'm getting married in May).

I picked up the sixaxis and couldn't believe that this is what Sony has come up with after all this time.  The loss of rumble is unforgivable, but I already knew about that.  What I couldn't believe was the R2 L2 triggers.  They feel like they are going to pop off the controller and like I have heard others say, they are really hard to keep your fingers on.  Did they make them convex just so they were different than the Xbox?  It seems a no brainer to shape a trigger like...a trigger!  If Sony has any brains they will release a rumble-capable version with usable triggers within six months.  Microsoft realized their mistake with the original Xbox, controller, I only wonder if Sony is not too thickheaded, considering all the ridiculous comments they have made recently.  On the other hand, they did add HDMI support to the core version.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2006, 10:34:41 PM »

"Flying Breakfast Car"

I think it'll become the next "Hit the weak point for maximum damage"
I'm sayin no, they won't rebuild the controller.  Here is the other thought though - without in-game support, no third party controllers will have rumble either...
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2006, 10:51:26 PM »

What I don't get is the "Sixaxis" name. It sounds like a sexual disease. Or like a new Axis of Evil that includes three more countries. Anything buy a video game controller.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2006, 12:18:07 AM »

I liked the triggers fine.  The last thing they need to do is make it more like the Xbox controller  thumbsdown
Sony isn't going to redesign the controller.  It's stayed basically the same ever since the Playstation 1.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2006, 12:35:55 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 17, 2006, 10:34:41 PM

"Flying Breakfast Car"
Haha, what the heck does that mean?
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2006, 12:36:23 AM »

Quote from: Canuck on November 18, 2006, 12:18:07 AM

I liked the triggers fine.  The last thing they need to do is make it more like the Xbox controller  thumbsdown
Sony isn't going to redesign the controller.  It's stayed basically the same ever since the Playstation 1.

The 360 controller is the best controller i have ever used.  I hate with a passion the dual shock controllers.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2006, 01:18:32 AM »

I do like the 360 controllers a lot.  If they had a D-pad that was worth a damn.  Then I would be even happier!
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2006, 01:53:58 AM »

While I don't think the lack of rumble is huge (though I did like it), without the rumble the controllers feel so much lighter and less sturdy than the PS2 dual shock. I prefer my controllers heavier.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2006, 03:08:54 AM »

Quote from: Arkon on November 18, 2006, 12:36:23 AM

Quote from: Canuck on November 18, 2006, 12:18:07 AM

I liked the triggers fine.  The last thing they need to do is make it more like the Xbox controller  thumbsdown
Sony isn't going to redesign the controller.  It's stayed basically the same ever since the Playstation 1.

The 360 controller is the best controller i have ever used.  I hate with a passion the dual shock controllers.

I really like the ps2 controllres, but the 360 controller is hands down the best controller ever.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2006, 03:14:49 AM »

I can't believe they didn't at least move the left analog stick into it's proper spot since we are no longer in the days of PS1 and it is the main control used.  Dillholes.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2006, 04:46:35 AM »

I hope some 3rd party releases a copy of the boomerang version of the controller, still curious if something like that would be comfortable.

Plus it would be fun to fight crime with it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2006, 05:44:23 AM »

The funny thing is that their original "boomerang" style was kind of similar to Microsoft's Sidewinder Freestyle Pro that they released for the PC a number of years back.  And that one actually contained the tilt-sensing stuff (but didn't have dual analog sticks, since that wasn't the norm back then).  The world is a weird, backwards place.

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2006, 07:35:00 AM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 18, 2006, 05:44:23 AM

The funny thing is that their original "boomerang" style was kind of similar to Microsoft's Sidewinder Freestyle Pro that they released for the PC a number of years back.  And that one actually contained the tilt-sensing stuff (but didn't have dual analog sticks, since that wasn't the norm back then).  The world is a weird, backwards place.


Half the shit nintendo is claiming about their motion sensing was also in that Sidewinder controller-I actually pointed this out well over a year ago-I find it very interesting more people didn't catch on to this.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2006, 02:18:12 PM »

Quote from: Calvin on November 18, 2006, 07:35:00 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 18, 2006, 05:44:23 AM

The funny thing is that their original "boomerang" style was kind of similar to Microsoft's Sidewinder Freestyle Pro that they released for the PC a number of years back.  And that one actually contained the tilt-sensing stuff (but didn't have dual analog sticks, since that wasn't the norm back then).  The world is a weird, backwards place.


Half the shit nintendo is claiming about their motion sensing was also in that Sidewinder controller-I actually pointed this out well over a year ago-I find it very interesting more people didn't catch on to this.

Innovation through imitation.  Its all the rage with the kids these days. slywink

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2006, 02:34:21 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on November 18, 2006, 04:46:35 AM

I hope some 3rd party releases a copy of the boomerang version of the controller, still curious if something like that would be comfortable.

Plus it would be fun to fight crime with it.

Same here. I like having a longer extension on the grip to lay across the palm of my hand, so I thought the boomerang controller looked great.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2006, 08:37:52 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 18, 2006, 02:18:12 PM

Quote from: Calvin on November 18, 2006, 07:35:00 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on November 18, 2006, 05:44:23 AM

The funny thing is that their original "boomerang" style was kind of similar to Microsoft's Sidewinder Freestyle Pro that they released for the PC a number of years back.  And that one actually contained the tilt-sensing stuff (but didn't have dual analog sticks, since that wasn't the norm back then).  The world is a weird, backwards place.


Half the shit nintendo is claiming about their motion sensing was also in that Sidewinder controller-I actually pointed this out well over a year ago-I find it very interesting more people didn't catch on to this.

Innovation through imitation.  Its all the rage with the kids these days. slywink


Yeah, yeah-my point was that I called them out on it firstishish biggrin
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2006, 09:01:37 PM »

Rumble is not coming back to Sony, at least not for a long time.  For those who don't know the story, a company successfully sued MS and Sony about their rumble technology.  MS settled a few years ago and then bought part of the company.  Sony keeps appealing and getting higher and higher judgements against them.  Sony won't settle because then MS would profit.

Nintendo's rumble tech is apparently different.

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2006, 09:11:25 PM »

Quote from: Calvin on November 18, 2006, 08:37:52 PM

Yeah, yeah-my point was that I called them out on it firstishish biggrin

We'll have to go back through the archives to see about this...  icon_wink
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2006, 01:01:43 AM »

Quote from: Sarkus on November 18, 2006, 09:01:37 PM

Rumble is not coming back to Sony, at least not for a long time.  For those who don't know the story, a company successfully sued MS and Sony about their rumble technology.  MS settled a few years ago and then bought part of the company.  Sony keeps appealing and getting higher and higher judgements against them.  Sony won't settle because then MS would profit.

Nintendo's rumble tech is apparently different.



What does Nintendo do differently with their controllers so that they avoid the lawsuit?
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2006, 03:25:19 AM »

Quote from: Dafones on November 19, 2006, 01:01:43 AM

What does Nintendo do differently with their controllers so that they avoid the lawsuit?

If I remember correctly, the Gamecube (as well as the N64 and I'm assuming the Wii) only use one rumble device for their rumble feature. The Xbox/PS2/360 use two (of slightly different sizes), which is what the patent is for.
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2006, 05:58:53 AM »

Quote from: Louis Cypher on November 18, 2006, 12:35:55 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 17, 2006, 10:34:41 PM

"Flying Breakfast Car"
Haha, what the heck does that mean?

It was in an interview with a Sony PR tool who, in response to complaints about backward-compatabilty problems with the PS3, said, "I would like my car to fly and make me breakfast, but that's an unrealistic expectation."
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2006, 01:25:14 PM »

Quote from: adamsappel on November 19, 2006, 05:58:53 AM

Quote from: Louis Cypher on November 18, 2006, 12:35:55 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 17, 2006, 10:34:41 PM

"Flying Breakfast Car"
Haha, what the heck does that mean?

It was in an interview with a Sony PR tool who, in response to complaints about backward-compatabilty problems with the PS3, said, "I would like my car to fly and make me breakfast, but that's an unrealistic expectation."

Woops!  Yea, you are right, that is where the flying breakfast car comes from.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2006, 08:17:01 PM »

Quote from: adamsappel on November 19, 2006, 05:58:53 AM

Quote from: Louis Cypher on November 18, 2006, 12:35:55 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 17, 2006, 10:34:41 PM

"Flying Breakfast Car"
Haha, what the heck does that mean?

It was in an interview with a Sony PR tool who, in response to complaints about backward-compatabilty problems with the PS3, said, "I would like my car to fly and make me breakfast, but that's an unrealistic expectation."
I read that and couldn't even begin to believe that Sony lets their PR people spout such incredibly arrogant bullshit.
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2006, 08:35:42 PM »

Quote from: adamsappel on November 19, 2006, 05:58:53 AM

Quote from: Louis Cypher on November 18, 2006, 12:35:55 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 17, 2006, 10:34:41 PM

"Flying Breakfast Car"
Haha, what the heck does that mean?

It was in an interview with a Sony PR tool who, in response to complaints about backward-compatabilty problems with the PS3, said, "I would like my car to fly and make me breakfast, but that's an unrealistic expectation."

IIRC the same dude said in that interview that the Wii had no backward compatibility  retard
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2006, 11:57:08 PM »

Again, let me push my agenda of getting "Flying Breakfast Car" into every stupid statement that Sony makes from now on.... slywink
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2006, 02:01:12 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 19, 2006, 11:57:08 PM

Again, let me push my agenda of getting "Flying Breakfast Car" into every stupid statement that Sony makes from now on.... slywink

You do that, Ron, and...well, I don't know what I'll do, but I'll be a very happy GTer.  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2006, 04:24:33 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 19, 2006, 11:57:08 PM

Again, let me push my agenda of getting "Flying Breakfast Car" into every stupid statement that Sony makes from now on.... slywink

Please do. I want to see it on the front page as much as possible. It has to become a sweet running gag on GT.
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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2006, 12:53:01 PM »

Quote from: Dafones on November 20, 2006, 04:24:33 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on November 19, 2006, 11:57:08 PM

Again, let me push my agenda of getting "Flying Breakfast Car" into every stupid statement that Sony makes from now on.... slywink

Please do. I want to see it on the front page as much as possible. It has to become a sweet running gag on GT.

I'm sorry, but the cast of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang just called. They'd like their car back. Toot sweet.
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2006, 02:24:46 PM »

I used to like the Dualshock. The s-controller for the Xbox then ruined it for me, and the 360 controller absolutely perfected the things the s-controller made an attempt at.

There was a time when the Dualshock (call it the sixaxis if you want.. it's the same damn thing) was satisfactory. It isn't anymore.
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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2006, 07:06:26 PM »

I wonder if dildo companies get sued for using rumble pack as well?
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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2008, 07:47:44 AM »

Well it took longer than 6 months but Sony did put rumble back in the controller! No redesign though.
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2008, 10:34:18 PM »

holy threadzerrection batman!

yeah, i wouldn't call adding a motor a redesign either, but it helps with two of my problems with the original.  no rumble and no weight.

i still think that the best option for those of us no longer honeymooning with a 9? year old design is the ps360 controller mod by benheck. 
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2008, 10:54:51 PM »

That or the rumored transformable PS3 controller that a patent and FCC report hinted at.

Even now, I still say I would have given the boomerang controller a fair shot.

Unfortunately, Benheck isn't making those mods anymore due to time and lower profit margin.

Someone could make a killing releasing some kind of snap op DS3 attachment that included a replaceable battery pack, better grips, and those snap on trigger covers that curved the triggers outward instead of inward.
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