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« on: August 04, 2013, 06:16:48 PM »

The WiiU finally has a game!  My copy finished downloading about two hours ago and Iíve been having a blast.  Pikmin 3 is completely charming and well worth your money. 

Gameplay isnít much changed from the past games but it is highly refined.  The biggest change is that you can now throw party members to locations you canít reach on foot and you can also assign waypoints for them to follow, allowing you to cover more ground at a time.  Small changes to the control interface go a long way towards making controlling your Pikmin more fluid and responsive.  Iím using the Wiimote + Nunchuck control scheme and it feels very much like controlling an RTS with a mouse and keyboard.  You can play with just the gamepad, and they even have extra options on the touch pad to make that easier, but I prefer the speed and accuracy of the pointer.

Graphically, this is the best looking game Nintendo has ever put out.  The environments are beautifully rendered and at times it feels more like youíre looking out a window at your garden than playing a game.  The exception to this is the Pikmin and protagonists themselves, who are very cartoony, but all in all it makes finding them easy and is very pleasing to look at.

If you are not a fan of the Pikmin formula this probably wonít change your mind but if you have even a passing interest and have a WiiU there is really no reason not to pick this up.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 05:41:51 PM »

I picked up a physical copy of this yesterday and ended up playing it quite a bit.  I think I got to day 14 but have still not recovered the Captain.  So far I'd say it is very enjoyable, and I never really played the other Pikmin games (beyond a demo disc). 

I have been playing entirely with the gamepad up to this point, and it's not too bad.  I think it could be instantly improved by making the pointer controlled by the right stick instead of the left, though.  Since the left stick both moves you and aims at the same time there have been quite a few times I have had to run around in a circle and wiggle back and forth to get the pointer pointing in the right direction but to still be close enough to where I can throw the Pikmin where I need to.

I also wish the days were a bit longer.  It seems I'm just getting my feet wet and figuring out what I need to do and the sun is already setting so I have to run all the way back to the ship to not lose my pack.

Anyway, I'm having fun and will keep playing for a while.  smile
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 08:57:36 PM »

I was really interested in this game until I heard it uses the old Wii controller. I detested that thing. And from what I've read the regular game pad controls are unintuitive, and I've long since passed the point in my life where I'm willing to spend time fighting a control scheme.

but I'm happy to hear that some people are really enjoying the game.

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 09:13:07 PM »

Quote from: Dante Rising on August 06, 2013, 08:57:36 PM

I was really interested in this game until I heard it uses the old Wii controller. I detested that thing. And from what I've read the regular game pad controls are unintuitive, and I've long since passed the point in my life where I'm willing to spend time fighting a control scheme.

but I'm happy to hear that some people are really enjoying the game.


Honestly, the Wii Remote is damn near perfect for this game. It doesn't use the "waggle," but rather the pointer, and the ability to aim while moving is a godsend.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 10:49:49 PM »

Quote from: davidrobots on August 06, 2013, 09:13:07 PM

Quote from: Dante Rising on August 06, 2013, 08:57:36 PM

I was really interested in this game until I heard it uses the old Wii controller. I detested that thing. And from what I've read the regular game pad controls are unintuitive, and I've long since passed the point in my life where I'm willing to spend time fighting a control scheme.

but I'm happy to hear that some people are really enjoying the game.


Honestly, the Wii Remote is damn near perfect for this game. It doesn't use the "waggle," but rather the pointer, and the ability to aim while moving is a godsend.

This x1000.  I hate touch and motion controls with a passion but the Wii Remote works perfectly for controlling this game. 



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I also wish the days were a bit longer.  It seems I'm just getting my feet wet and figuring out what I need to do and the sun is already setting so I have to run all the way back to the ship to not lose my pack.

I donít believe this is true, as long as your Pikmin are selected and near a commander they should make it back to the ship automatically.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 03:33:07 AM »

Quote from: Dante Rising on August 06, 2013, 08:57:36 PM

I was really interested in this game until I heard it uses the old Wii controller. I detested that thing. And from what I've read the regular game pad controls are unintuitive, and I've long since passed the point in my life where I'm willing to spend time fighting a control scheme.

but I'm happy to hear that some people are really enjoying the game.

I think the WiiMote may be the "real" way to play, but so far I've put in several hours using only the gamepad and it's not that bad at all.  I certainly don't regret the purchase, and I went in knowing I didn't want to use the old Wii controls and that might be a deal breaker. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2013, 03:34:35 AM »

Quote from: Lordnine on August 06, 2013, 10:49:49 PM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 05, 2013, 05:41:51 PM

I also wish the days were a bit longer.  It seems I'm just getting my feet wet and figuring out what I need to do and the sun is already setting so I have to run all the way back to the ship to not lose my pack.

I donít believe this is true, as long as your Pikmin are selected and near a commander they should make it back to the ship automatically.

Oh man, that's a game changer!  For some reason I thought the tutorial said you had to be within the ship's circle at nightfall or you'd lose those Pikmin. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 05:03:05 AM »

So I beat this yesterday.  I really enjoyed most of the game, but I have to say the boss fights, and especially the final maze level and boss fight, really burned all the goodwill everything else had built up. 

I was ready to give up on the last level several times, and ready to smash my controller in the final fight.  I didn't even feel a sense of accomplishment when I was finished, just relief and frustration.  If Shigeru Miyamoto himself had been sitting next to me I probably would have broken my controller on his face.   icon_evil

It's funny, for a game that most of the time is so laid back and lets you do things in your own time, the boss fights are just terribly punishing.  Especially for someone who chose to use the gamepad.  I didn't even keep track, but on the last level and boss fight I must have used at least 10 in-game days, which is just ludicrous.

So all in all, if you haven't finished the game, just enjoy finding all the fruit and then quit.   icon_frown
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 04:29:12 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 13, 2013, 05:03:05 AM

It's funny, for a game that most of the time is so laid back and lets you do things in your own time, the boss fights are just terribly punishing.  Especially for someone who chose to use the gamepad.  I didn't even keep track, but on the last level and boss fight I must have used at least 10 in-game days, which is just ludicrous.

So all in all, if you haven't finished the game, just enjoy finding all the fruit and then quit.   icon_frown

Not to rub it your face butÖ so far the boss fights are pretty easy with the WiiMote + Nunchuck.  Being able to both run and throw pikmin in an opposite direction with pinpoint accuracy is clearly the way they intended the game to be played.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 11:50:57 PM »

Yeah, the fact that they mapped the Pikmin aiming to the movement stick and not the camera stick just seems silly.  Console gamepads have had 2 sticks for years and years, make use of them like a sane person, Nintendo!

That's also one of my main complaints about games to be played with the nunchuck and Wiimote, there is no right stick to control the camera.  I am a camera control freak and hate most default cameras (especially those from Japanese studios in general).
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 12:07:16 AM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on August 13, 2013, 11:50:57 PM


That's also one of my main complaints about games to be played with the nunchuck and Wiimote, there is no right stick to control the camera.  I am a camera control freak and hate most default cameras (especially those from Japanese studios in general).
With the WiiRemote + Nunchuck you can snap the camera to the direction your character is currently facing with a single button press.  Not quite the free roaming camera you are looking for but it works well enough for Pikmin.
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