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« on: May 07, 2005, 04:14:39 AM »

I got this from another website, here is the link if you are interested:
http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=30389

I am an xbox fan, but this has impressed me. I am definitely getting it too...if this is true, can anyone confirm?

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The following are online entries from a former Nintendo employee, who now works in a company that is developing for the Revolution.
It's a long read, but well worth the effort. I nearly ruined a good pair of pants.

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Aries Says:
April 26th, 2005 at 4:41 pm

Here you go:

Brooke got some things right, but much of it is flawed. I don’t know whether he just made up a lot of that stuff, because many of the points have been disproven before. For instance, Game Informer wrote an article on the next generation consoles in which it claims the Revolution’s controller will have one giant touch screen. I’m thinking this is where Brooke got that idea. The Revolution will not have a touch screen. Iwata has stated this before. The controller will be quite normal in the sense that it will have a d-pad and buttons. Like I said, I’m not going to tell you the revolutionary aspect of the system. Nintendo has some cool pre E3 plans for that.

First off, the 3D visuals he mentioned have nothing to do with the system. Nintendo isn’t crazy.

It will also have gyroscopic controls, but like Brooke said, not all the games will use it. For instance, earlier I mentioned Nintendo has a Halo killer in development for the Revolution. This game will use the gyroscopic controls for aiming as wel as other things. Our game isn’t using this function.

The controller will be wireless; he’s right about that. As you also know, the Xbox 360’s controllers will be wireless as well. Where do you think they got this idea? That’s why Nintendo is still trying to determine what to show at E3. From what I’ve heard, they will show the design of the system as well as games. I’ll tell you about the software later though.

The controller will also be pressure sensitive. The pressure you put into it will determine certain things, such as movement. This is another optional capibility. Someone on Nintendo’s board mentioned this months ago. They said that “touching is good, but feeling is better.” This may sound strange, but it provides great controls. Racing games will really be helped by this control setting.

The Nintendo Revolution will also include voice control more advanced than anything seen so far. Nintendogs is just the beginning. To achieve this, Nintendo sent us headsets (similar to ones you can use for Xbox Live) that are wirelessless communicating with the console. Imagine being able to merely call for an airstrike or reload your gun by giving out commands orally. So far, we have put this feature to the test the most; as you can see, I’m excited over this feature.

From a graphical perspective, the Nintendo Revolution is very powerful. Many people seem to think this won’t be the case, but rest assured. The games I saw while working at Nintendo were very beautiful. I’ll tell you about those later.

As Nintendo has stated before, the system will be online. In my eyes, the online system they have set up is the most revolutionary part of the system. While Sony and Microsoft are busy turning their systems into trojan horses for their other electronic devices, Nintendo is going to use the Revolution for direct communication with gamers. The only way I can describe it is as an internet service. Imagine turning it on and checking your mail on the system. You see previews and demos of DS and Revolution games that you can download. A magazine similar to Nintendo Power will be exclusive to the system, and you will be able to access it on the Revolution’s homepage. As you check you mail, you will also see various invitations from gamers on your buddy list who want to play you. There are so many other ways this is going to be used. Once the Revolution comes out, there will be no reason to hang out on message boards. Message boards as well as chat rooms will be available on the Revolution so that gamers can discuss and challenge each other all day. And the best thing is that the entire thing is totally free and easy to use. Why play Madden on Xbox Live when you’ll be able to play it for free on the Revolution with much better services?

That’s all I’m going to reveal for now. There are some very interesting games in the horizon for the Revolution; I’ll talk about them later.  



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April 26th, 2005 at 5:04 pm

Like Brooke said, console ideas are nothing without good games. Once you see the games, you will understand. I would go as far to say that the Revolution isn’t as revolutionary as Nintendo is saying. It should be called the Nintendo Simplicity, because every aspect I mentioned greatly simplifies the gaming experience. For instance, the pressure sensitive grips on the controller make racing games much easier to control and play. Wave Race (yes, it will be at E3) is going to be very impressive because it will use this function. It will be sort of like controlling a game with one of those stress balls. You squeeze it and you go faster. It’s hard to explain though.

Don’t expect to see too much if any of the controller at E3 though. Nintendo is still trying to decide what to show and what not to show. The games will be revealed, as well as specs and the system design. But the controller is still being considered.

To Jesus: when you see the voice controls, you will be blown away. Go back and watch some sci fi movies with voice controlled vehicles (such as AI or I am Robot).  



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April 26th, 2005 at 2:14 pm

You guys are still talking about the 3D angle of that article? Check the date of the patent in question. This has already been used in a game that’s out right now. I would suggest you pay attention to IGN or N-Sider more.

Like I said, I’m going to give out some details on the next gen hardware, especially the Nintendo Revolution. You guys already know a lot of information on the Xbox 360; you guys have already seen the specs of the system. Gamespy released them around GDC. I was at GDC, and I’ll fill you in on some stuff that IGN can’t talk about. Specs and details on the Nintendo Revolution were given out to developers during the conference. I can verify that my company as well as EA and Midway received them at GDC. I’m positive other publishers received them as well.

From what I’ve heard, Capcom and Namco are sold on the Revolution and are currently playing around with the development kits. I don’t know whether they are actually making games for it though. I was suprised to hear that Square Soft has a game in development for the Revolution. It will be at E3 as well as some other next gen titles for the PS3.

I’m currently working on a game for the Revolution as well. I can’t guarantee that it will be at E3 though. I think people are going to be very suprised. When I worked with Nintendo, I was able to see the earliest builds of the system. It has come a long way, to say the least. There are a lot of graphics whores out there who feel the Revolution will be a weak system. They will be very suprised come E3. Microsoft is banking on stealing the show, but I think they will be upstaged by Nintendo as well as Sony. It’s going to be very funny to see them trying to get people excited about Perfect Dark 0 when both Nintendo and Sony will be showing off Halo killers.  



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I’m not going to share specs with you because they aren’t really that important. I think Iwata said something like that when asked the same question. All three consoles are going to be very powerful, trust me. I’ll give you some information though: it will be more powerful than the Xbox 360. Much more powerful. Many gamers seem to think it will be as powerful as the GBA or something. That isn’t the case at all. From what I saw during my time their as well as our game, it will be very capible.

But having the most powerful console doesn’t guarantee that gamers are going to buy it. Software sells the games. And if that statement holds true next generation, the Nintendo Revolution will be very popular.

In my next post I will “spill the beans” on everything I know about the Revolution. I’ll give you some hints though. All the rumors out there are not mere rumors. Some are planted by people who are working on the consoles. In fact, Nintendo is doing this right now with the information they’ve released on the Revolution. You are going to see why Nintendo hasn’t just come out and said confirmed that the Revolution is going to be very powerful. You’re going to be punk’d by them in a couple weeks. Pay attention to the boards, especially Nintendo’s board. It’s much better than OurColony.
 



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April 27th, 2005 at 6:10 am

Silicon
Knights is not developing for the Nintendo Revolution right now. They
will show off some Xbox 360 games at E3; I can confirm that. Matt saw
the game, and he knows what they are up to. Once he is able to talk
about it, he will reveal his information to you.

Like I said, I
know as much about Resident Evil 5 as you do. I would guess it is going
to be a current generation game. If Capcom could have it ready for the
holidays (to combat the Xbox 360), it would come out then. But that’s
just my own speculation (and hope; RE4 is amazing).

I can
confirm that Nintendo is currently working on many Revolution titles.
Most are just in the planning stages, but I have seen video of seven.
I’m sure at least three or four of these games will be at E3 in video
form. Perhaps more; we will see at E3. Outside of our game, there are
six 3rd party games that I have heard of. As I mentioned earlier,
Square Enix (happy now?) is developing a new game for the Revolution.
EA, Sega, Zoonami, Namco, and Activision are currently working on games.

3rd party information:

EA
is playing around with the Revolution’s capibilities, implementing them
into another Madden game. This isn’t really news though. From what I’ve
heard, they are really going out of their way to make this more than
just a port. Voice controls are being used to the max in this title.
Calling out audibles will be used this way. The wireless capibilities
of the system are also going to be used. Like I said, there will be no
reason to buy Madden for the Xbox 360 when the Revolution version comes
out.

Sega is developing three games for the Revolution that
should be at E3. I’m not going to reveal too much on what they are up
to for obvious reasons. The three games I listed does not include the
game we are developing for them. You will be very suprised at what they
are doing. I’m sure you have heard of the Xbox 360 title Condemned that
they are working on. This game is something that many wouldn’t expect
Sega to make; you won’t expect what you will see at E3. The other game
they have is a typical, quirky Sega game. It’s very interesting in the
sense that it uses all the system’s capibilities.

Zoonami has
already given out some hints on what they are working on. I have always
felt that Sam Fisher is a much better character than Solid Snake.
Zoonami just might have some characters that are better than both of
them.

Namco is working on a Revolution game, but I don’t have
details on it. I am sure that it is not a Soul Caliber III port. I
don’t see why they just won’t add online play and Link and Ganon to the
game and release it as a launch title. That would be a very smart move.

Activision
is working on some ports for the Revolution. You will see what they
have for the Xbox 360 at E3. At least one of these games will be ported
to the Revolution for its launch.

On 1st party information:

Like
I said, I have seen seven Nintendo titles, some of which will be at E3.
When the DS was launced, it had one sub par 1st party game. This will
not be the case with the Revolution’s launch. If they were to release
all the games I’ve seen at launch, it would easily be the best launch
ever for a console.

I can confirm that Nintendo is working on a
new, orignal Mario game. In my opinion, the last few Miyamoto games
havn’t been that interesting. This will change with this game. Like
Mario 64 for the N64, this game will introduce all of the capibilities
of the console. It will use the pressure sensitive controls mainly, but
the voice controls as well as gyroscopic controls will be used as well.
From what I saw, this game will use mini games to introduce many of
these schemes. All of these mini games could be released as stand alone
games.

A new Super Smash Bros. Melee is in the works as well.
This game will demonstrate the online functions of the Revolution.
Nintendo has added many new things into the game, included a deeper
combat system. Many more special moves are included as well as some
very cool suprises. The levels will include some destructible
environments, and the characters will be fully customizable. Want to
play as Mario in his 80’s outfit? Or would you prefer the 90’s look?
It’s your choice. The most innovative part of the game is the different
modes. In previous games, you were allowed to play in giant mode, metal
mode, small mode, etc. That has changed. You will be able to choose to
play in a “Paper” mode (a la Paper Mario), a cel shaded mode (Wind
Waker), or Viewtiful Joe-esque mode.

As I said earlier, Retro is working on a Halo killer. This game is going to be one of the best games at E3. In my opinion, StarCraft was the best RTS ever. This game is going to use some similar ideas. In most FPS, you play as a hero trying to save the day. In Retro’s game, they allow you to choose which storyline you want to play, just like StarCraft allows you to play as Terran, Zerg, etc. Biological weapons will play a major part in the game. Imagine fighting in a chemical plant, where toxics are stored everywhere. By shooting them, you emit the toxic. If you get hit by this stuff, many different things may happen. For instance, you may lose sight on the screen, your controls might be inverted or slowed down, etc. Or, if your character gets the fever, the controller might get hot. Very hot. The alien races are very interesting also. You will be able to switch to 3rd person in order to move faster (similar to running in Odd World: Stranger’s Wrath). You will be able to “impregnate” human players by grabbing on to them for a certain amount of time. This will implant a NPC in them, which will burst out at your command, instantly killing the human player. You will then be able to use voice control to command the NPC.

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I haven’t heard anything about a new Nights game, which is sad; Nights was a brilliant game. I have heard talk of a new Virtual Fighter though. Just talk though.
Vectorman isn’t coming out for the PS2. Sega was going to bring it to the current consoles, but the plan was scrapped. And no I don’t work for Pseudo Interactive. Or Silicon Knights. Funny you bring them up though. They will have one of the best games at E3. Outside of Zelda, Nintendo’s FPS (developed by Retro), and PD0, it will be the one of the best showings of E3.

I don’t have details on what game Squaresoft is working on. I know that it will be at E3 along with Final Fantasy 3 and FF:CC for the DS.

I’m not going to give out the secret. It’s going to be very fun; wait until E3. Nintendo is going to roll out a trojan horse: something that looks innocent and weak and them bam, it will be unveiled. Just don’t make up your mind on the first day of E3.

There is not a Sonic game in development for the Revolution. It is an exclusive Gamecube game. This one is totally seperate from Shadow the Hedgehog, which will be multi console (and should hit the PSP as well).

That’s all for today. I will be back. Hopefully Brooke will update his site by then. I want to hear more of what he allegedly knows.

--

Like Reggie said, Nintendo is changing. They aren’t going to sit around and let Sony and Microsoft steal all of their marketshare. I think they are going to do very well next generation. But it won’t be a cake walk or anything. I still think the PS3 is going to win the next generation. It is alot closer to completion than many think, and at E3 they will show off some amazing stuff as well.
I will tell you guys about the other four titles later. Zelda is not one of them, although I have seen some preliminary designs for the new one. Go look at the Elder Scrolls: Oblivion pics, and then put Link into those environments. A beautiful sight indeed.  
 



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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2005, 04:27:02 AM »

Totally unconfirmed.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2005, 04:33:18 AM »

I love how he says that Microsoft stole the idea for wireless controllers from Nintendo.  Come on now.

To me voice control of games does not seem all that exciting.  Also Nintendo has a LONG way to go to prove that they can compete with Microsoft in terms of online gaming.  I am rooting for the Revolution to be a success, but I have lost alot of faith in Nintendo over the last two years.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2005, 05:01:05 AM »

Sorry, but I'll see it when I believe it.  I doubt that Sony will upstage MS.  Sony has absolutely no buzz, and they are banking on the popularity of the PS2 to carry them.  I don't think that will happen once the Xbox 360 is out.

I still think Nintendo has a lot to learn, especially after the GC.  Japan cannot sustain them alone, and they have real competition in the handheld market with the PSP now.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2005, 05:49:06 AM »

Despite what people think about the N64 and the GC, Nintendo didnt just make a profit on it, they made a lot of profit.  And they completely own the handheld market, and have since the GameBoy; it's easy to build a solid fan base when you have absolutely no serious competition.  But now they might, so we'll have to see where it goes.  I personally cant see paying $350 for a handheld console, so that may hamper Sony's long term prospects.

I guess it's for that reason I cant really buy in to the whole "Nintendo doesnt know what they are doing" line.  Any company that can make a great profit without being required to be number one in their field deserves respect.  Secondly, Nintendo doesnt seem afraid to try new things.  Sure they could have done more as far as connecting the GC to a network or the internet.  But the machine wasnt built for that, so it was probably smart to work on that feature in their next console rather than throwing resources at making something do what it wasnt meant to do.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2005, 06:21:43 AM »

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I personally cant see paying $350 for a handheld console, so that may hamper Sony's long term prospects.


Whew, good thing that its only $250 then smile (Point still taken).
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2005, 06:48:42 AM »

Anyone remember how much hype they released about the PS2, and how poor it was in reality?

The only thing that saved the PS2 was a great lineup of games and name recognition.
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2005, 12:00:46 PM »

I do remember that when it was first released, I read a lot of articles about how constrained developers were by the lack of video memory (or something like that) in the PS2.  Although it's obvious that many developers have been able to work around those constrictions, I've always wondered how much better the PS2 games might look today if Sony had been a little bit more forward-thinking in their original design.

I'm really looking forward to some confirmed information about the next generation systems.  If the rumors are true and they're on track for release later this year, it's going to be a very interesting holiday season.

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2005, 01:25:11 PM »

IGN Cube's editor debunked Aries as a fraud. I wouldn't believe any of the stuff he posts, or at least not get my hopes up based on them.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2005, 10:35:10 PM »

I love the line of how Nintento has no intention of letting MS and Sony steal their marketshare. A news flash to Nintendo, Sony already did that...with the first playstation.

This whole back and forth e-mail thing sounds like it came straight out of that Reggie guys head.


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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2005, 01:08:59 AM »

Heh... An evidence of how behind-the-times this forum has gotten... I've discussed about that two weeks ago... on a Mac forum.

Talk about sad.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2005, 01:16:53 AM »

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Heh... An evidence of how behind-the-times this forum has gotten... I've discussed about that two weeks ago... on a Mac forum.

Talk about sad.

Nah, it's just that the members on that Mac forum are far more gullible... smile
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2005, 01:17:15 AM »

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Heh... An evidence of how behind-the-times this forum has gotten... I've discussed about that two weeks ago... on a Mac forum.

Talk about sad.
I believe what's sad would be any feelings of superiority you might get from discussing internet rumors on an online forum before other people.
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2005, 01:18:57 AM »

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Heh... An evidence of how behind-the-times this forum has gotten... I've discussed about that two weeks ago... on a Mac forum.

Talk about sad.


Yet you keep coming back.  Aren't we lucky. :roll:
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2005, 04:50:28 AM »

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Heh... An evidence of how behind-the-times this forum has gotten... I've discussed about that two weeks ago... on a Mac forum.

Talk about sad.


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