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« on: August 18, 2006, 03:10:32 AM »

So, Ninety-Nine Nights is in stores.  I was looking forward to it.  Enjoyed the demo and everything.  The reviews have completely scared me off.  Has anyone actually tried the full game?  Where are those impressions?
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2006, 03:26:34 AM »

Hit my doorstep just before I left for work.  I'll get impressions in tomorrow. smile
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2006, 04:45:13 AM »

I have it and I've spent a little time with it. Graphics are amazing at times, however there is one HUGE drawback. There is a strange blurring of the distant objects. So, everything in the foreground is nice and sharp, but everything in the background appears like being viewed through a dirty glass. It's strange and honestly, it was giving me a headache. On the plus side, the combos are cool and some of them look really impressive. On the negative side, the voice acting is abysmally bad, like as in porno acting bad. The voices don't match the lip movements either, so it looks like a badly dubbed kung fu movie.

I really enjoyed the demo but I have not played the full game enough to say whether or not I like it. I WANT to like it because I do enjoy Dynasty Warrior type of mindless hack and slash games. The bad voice acting doesn't bother me much because let's face it, how many Japanese made games have decent voice acting? The blurring effect is what I am concerned about most. If it is always so bad that it gives me a headache every time I play it, then it's going on my shelf to await trade-in.

I think what it comes down to is this. If you like games like Dynasty Warriors and have not gotten tired of the endless sequels, then chances are you'll like N3. If you don't like Dynasty Warriors, there is nothing about N3 that would change your mind.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2006, 04:58:00 AM »

For anyone that's interested, I saw that this one is going for $39.99 with free shipping from Outpost.com
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2006, 06:17:16 AM »

The little I've had time to play has been much fun.  I love seeing 50+ goblins flying through the air.  The gameplay is very simple:  Hack your way through the peons, find the boss(s) take them out.  I like the items and the combos. 

The distance blur is noticable, but, it hasn't been a big deal so far for me.

I do wish you had more than one character to choose from the start, however, she does have a lot of fun moves.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2006, 07:20:35 AM »

Okay, I've spent another couple of hours with the game. So the blur effect doesn't bother me as much as it did in the beginning. It's still noticeable, but really your focus is on the killing of goblins right near you. Mission 2 is the same one as in the demo and it took me three tries to get through it. The game almost lost my interest at this point because there are no checkpoints in the game. If you die, you have to restart the entire level over again and of course I died a couple of times right at the end where you fight the troll boss. I was almost about to turn off the 360 and call it a night, but I tried one more time and succeeded. After I completed that level, the next level drew me right back in. It's nothing more than a massive massacre for your character. Here is where it was really fun because filling the power meter was done quickly due to the sheer number of enemies you can kill, which enabled the special moves and then the ultimate power up where it is insta-death for any enemies that come near you. The number of dead bodies on the ground was impressive. The level felt like one of the huge battles in the Lord of the Rings movies. Very, very cool.

Despite the faults (bad voice acting, no checkpoints, blurry horizon), I'm really enjoying the game so far. When you're killing literally a thousand orcs, the game looks quite good.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2006, 08:27:50 AM »

And one good point:

Digital cleavage on Inphy.  Tongue

Otherwise, I'll just wait for this one to hit the bargain bin and pick it up as an example of how many models a 360 can render on screen at once.

Did they do anything to fix the friendly unit AI?  They seemed to just stand there and take hits.  I've been in situations where the last 5-6 goblins in an army wipes out half my guard unit because the friendly AI is so inept.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2006, 11:18:35 AM »

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on August 18, 2006, 07:20:35 AM

I died a couple of times right at the end where you fight the troll boss.

I'm going to guess you had low health going into this fight, because I found him much easier to take out than during the demo (for one thing, Asphaar actually helps, unlike Inphyy during the demo). My suggestion, save your blue orb attack until you get to the boss area. Unleash that on the peons then run around and grab everything that drops.

That's as far as I've had a chance to play so far but have found it enjoyable.

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I've never played a game like this. I wanted N3 for the story/visuals/music.
Inphyy feels more fluid than Asphaar does because she moves a bit differently.
I'd pay marketplace points for a pack with the Japanese voice track and subtitles.
Yeah the blur effect is strong.
The game looks great. I don't remember seeing those guys that summon the lightning bolts in the demo. Suddenly I had something to do beyond bashing goblins.

Bug report:
During my fight with the troll boss, he ran to pick up a log when his heath was getting low. He suddenly stopped attacking and stood there while we pummeled him. Apparently he was stuck on geometry or something and the item he dropped was unretrievable.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2006, 11:22:12 AM »

There are several unlockable characters in game according to reviews.  Pretty much anyone interesting has to be unlocked.

You can even play a troll, albiet for only two missions.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2006, 12:27:55 PM »

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on August 18, 2006, 04:45:13 AM

The bad voice acting doesn't bother me much because let's face it, how many Japanese made games have decent voice acting?

Most games, no matter where they are from, have decent voice acting these days.  And the fact that it was Japanese developed isn't an excuse- it's published by Microsoft who certainly has the resources to do a decent localization. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2006, 12:41:41 PM »

Hell these days even bad anime has decent voice acting.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2006, 03:08:55 PM »

IMPRESSIONS™ by Purge

Video - Graphics are amazing, the blur effect is an enhancement. Very little pop-up noticed (faraway enemies are blurred and become more detailed as the distance closes.) My Glasses need replacing (getting some today, AAMOF) so when I sit a fair distance away I have problems seeing the chests in the distance and items.

Sound - Battle sounds are great, and so is custom music tracks (as I'm not too fond of the ingame music). Didn't pay too much attention to sound as of right now. I really don't mind the voices; there's a lot WORSE out there. I would give the voices a good rating (B+).

Controls - The controls in this game are WAY BETTER than the Dynasty Warrior franchise. You get some awesome strings for combos as well as different power attacks.

Gameplay - This is the big one folks. The gameplay in N3 is better than DW in every way possible. From on-the-fly equipment changes to ordering your troops, it all makes sense. The AI DOES actually do something, whereas the DW universe has more soldiers standing around than not. (which explains why the Chinese population dropped from 40+million to 16million in 120 years during the romance of the 3 kingdoms). Use "defend" to pull your troops back to isolate the opponents and get them out of melee combat. Hold your troops back and draw your foes into their own traps (like the stones etc). Use Attack to get them to charge into the opponents as well. Terrain plays a part in the combat, although not to the detail of the Total War series.

The hack-n-slash is varied, and all of your favorite combo build up. I found the game to be hard on the second level (the one included in the demo) as you don't have any powerups and your level is pretty low. go down the dead-end paths to get powerups ( the south-west one is a wash with only a cursed necklace which gives you -50% attack power). Get the 2nd and 3rd swords from this level (3rd is past the troll; let them battle it out while you go plundering chests! icon_twisted)

Inphyy is a fluid fighter, and although she doesn't really get the stopping power of her brother until the 3rd and 4th missions, she does really well. There is at least 6 characters to play in the game; I'm on the 6th mission ATM. See spoiler below.  eek

The only gripe I had initially is that there are no in-game saves, which artificially inflates the play time. Given that there is mission ratings though, I'd have to say it's fair to assume you are GOING to be playing them over again (one achievement is getting an A rating on all levels). The camera was fine, although YMMV based on what you're used to. The DW series didn't even let you pivot the camera manually (you had to block to center camera; in N3 you can do this as well).

Spoiler for Hiden:
Inphyy just slaughtered old, sick, women and children orcs ingame ... she's a vicious person filled with hatred.
I am not regretting this purchase one bit.
I give it a solid A for now; the game is designed as a single player experience... the only thing I would have liked to have seen is a live co-op mode as well.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2006, 03:18:37 PM »

I'm not going to lie - I want to rent/buy the game because I want to play as that Inphy girlie   paranoid saywhat
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2006, 03:20:22 PM »

Quote from: depward on August 18, 2006, 03:18:37 PM

I'm not going to lie - I want to rent/buy the game because I want to play as that Inphy girlie   paranoid saywhat

you are seriously such a noob dep biggrin Thank god you have fooled some girl into believing you might not be right now!!

As for N3-a rental when I have nothing else to play, but its the type of game that gets old very fast for me.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2006, 05:09:56 PM »

About the army AI of the demo compared to the full game, it feels like the AI in the full game is smarter. I have not had my units completely killed off in any missions yet and when I stand around watching them, they do seem to actively fight the enemies instead of standing around looking confused.

As for the voice acting, I guess I have higher expectations. I think it's horrible in the game. Then again, I prefer original Japanese audio with subtitles whenever I watch anime.

One tip I found helpful. It's beneficial to explore the maps and go to every dead end location possible. They usually have chests to break open for useful items.

Personally, I think the Gamespot review was a little too harsh. I like the game a lot and compared to Dynasty Warriors, it's a better game.
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2006, 06:59:15 PM »

Yep, co-op would have made this game even better.  I'm loving it so far. 

Played through all of Myifee's missions.  He's slow, but I like his combos a lot.  May go back and finish out Inphy's last mission later.  I got killed at the very end of it the other night and called it quits for a bit.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2006, 10:19:08 PM »

Quote from: Purge on August 18, 2006, 03:08:55 PM

Get the 2nd and 3rd swords from this level (3rd is past the troll; let them battle it out while you go plundering chests! icon_twisted)

Oh no! I didn't get the third one...should I replay the level?
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2006, 01:22:32 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2006, 02:26:19 AM »

No, I did not take the la - landslide, if you will.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2006, 03:08:15 AM »

Hack.  Slash.  Repeat.  Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.   I'm gonna put a bit more time into it but my first impression is "Am I gonna wear out my X and Y button with this game?"   
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2006, 03:17:28 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 19, 2006, 03:08:15 AM

Hack.  Slash.  Repeat.  Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.   I'm gonna put a bit more time into it but my first impression is "Am I gonna wear out my X and Y button with this game?"   

Have you played (and enjoyed) the Dynasty Warrior series of games?
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2006, 03:20:59 AM »

The Dynasty Warriors series was the same, unfortunately.  It got old very quickly.
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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2006, 03:37:38 AM »

Quote from: Eightball on August 19, 2006, 03:17:28 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 19, 2006, 03:08:15 AM

Hack.  Slash.  Repeat.  Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.   I'm gonna put a bit more time into it but my first impression is "Am I gonna wear out my X and Y button with this game?"   

Have you played (and enjoyed) the Dynasty Warrior series of games?

Yea, I've played them.  I was just hoping that this might bring something new to the table. 
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2006, 05:06:08 AM »

it does... you now have a use for the "BLOCK" button.  icon_biggrin eek
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2006, 05:10:14 AM »

Quote from: Purge on August 19, 2006, 05:06:08 AM

it does... you now have a use for the "BLOCK" button.  icon_biggrin eek

Didn't need it for the first 3 levels.  Didn't need the little dash move either.   icon_twisted
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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2006, 04:30:45 PM »

Experienced massive slowdown at a couple of points last night when there were lots of enemies. Interestingly, it almost seemed like the game went in to a slo-mo mode...it still looked good, which was odd.
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2006, 06:11:00 PM »

Yeah, there are a few places that the game slows down quite a bit.  It is still playable, and the spots/times are infrequent.  Another point where the game reminds me of Dynasty Warriors  icon_twisted

Don't expect anything more out of the game than pure hack and slash that looks good.  As long as you are fine with that, it is a really fun game.  I'm still finding new items/new levels of items right now.
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2006, 06:28:28 PM »

I did the Fort Wyandeek mission with Inphyy last night. I started the next one but got thrashed. Then I realized I could start Asphaar's campaign so I did the training mission with him. I found a level 2 item in that mission then found something else really cool in the Euvarria Mountain level but didn't make it through that one. I got completely hammered...not sure why.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2006, 10:59:32 PM »

Getting a couple of levels for each character helps a lot.  Also getting to know their move list helps quite a bit.

That said, having a good selection of items, and having the right ones equipped, can make the most difference.

I'm not sure how the game decides what items to kick out.  I've seen different ones with all three of the characters I've played so far.  Supposedly the missions level up when you repeat them.  I haven't noticed all that much difference however.
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2006, 08:47:04 PM »

This games reminds me of Ninja Gaiden in so many ways... like how many dents I can make in the wall beside the TV from the flying controller.

It's gone down to a B for the save thing. Seriously, I've gotten to mission 6 (swamp) where they jump you around, and if you want your troops for the final battle you spend forever hunting them down and backtracking.

Also, I hate named chars. No one except you does damage to them, and your special orb attacks do almost NOTHING to them. And they block. And block. And hit, then block. When you think you've hit them, they jump back, fly forward and smoke you for critical damage even though you're wearing an item that protects from critical damage.

So that makes it a B- ... Nice.
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