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« on: July 23, 2006, 12:46:32 AM »

Some Pre-vis CG work on a unnamed Star wars game for next gen consoles - you can check it out  here

/crosses fingers that the real game looks like this and of course that it's on the Wii  :-)

[EDIT] Links working again. :-)
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2006, 01:22:20 AM »

Link's not working. frown
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 01:40:08 AM »

It's on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC3bqyq9QQY
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 02:04:51 AM »

SWEET MERCIFUL CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2006, 02:07:37 AM »

I want to throw stormtroopers at tie-fighters now.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2006, 02:19:36 AM »

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I want to throw stormtroopers at tie-fighters now.

Same here.

Holy crap!
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2006, 02:36:17 AM »

Next Jedi Knight game?  biggrin


I need whatever game that will become.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2006, 03:03:20 AM »

Okay, ever since Jedi Outcast came out, I've wanted a crazy badass Sith game, where you almost literally tear through your enemies with insanely vicious force powers, like a force crush, or force rip, or force explode.

I'm not sure if that makes me a bad person, or a visionary.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2006, 05:00:12 AM »

that game seems to be too easy if you allow to do all that stuff
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2006, 05:05:21 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2006, 02:18:54 PM »

O-M-G!

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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 02:53:36 PM »

Holy shit....I think I need to change my shorts
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2006, 03:04:39 PM »

As cool as that is, doesn't it scream 'pre-rendered cut scene' to anyone else?  If it's not...Ho.  Lee.  Shit.   :shock:
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2006, 03:11:12 PM »

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As cool as that is, doesn't it scream 'pre-rendered cut scene' to anyone else?  If it's not...Ho.  Lee.  Shit.   :shock:


I don't think it looks pre-rendered, in fact I'd say in comparison to what we're seeing from the 360 and PS3, this trailer looks decidedly this generation but with more stuff in the scene.
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2006, 03:20:41 PM »

The reason why it looks prerendered is that the enemies are dynamically reacting to new positioning using the AI muscle movement system.

Basically they have AI controlling basic muscle movements so that the AI will actually do things like reach out to grab ledges if they're falling, dynamically get up after falling no matter how they land, etc...

In this video, you see a stormtrooper grab on to a ledge while being thrown around by force powers.  This is part of that AI system and you can see how he holds on tight as the jedi yanks him away.
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2006, 04:47:48 PM »

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As cool as that is, doesn't it scream 'pre-rendered cut scene' to anyone else?  If it's not...Ho.  Lee.  Shit.   :shock:


It is pre-rendered, although they are calling it pre-vis which is more of a visual effects term than a game term and might be a result of the supposed integration of ILM assets into the rest of Lucas's offshoots.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2006, 05:49:52 PM »

Poor Stormstroopers.  Always getting force tossed around.  If I got assigned to duty, I'd throw up my hands and say, "What's the point?  We've got blasters, they've got laser swords and magic powers."  I hope they get good benefits and healt coverage.
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2006, 05:53:45 PM »

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Poor Stormstroopers.  Always getting force tossed around.  If I got assigned to duty, I'd throw up my hands and say, "What's the point?  We've got blasters, they've got laser swords and magic powers."  I hope they get good benefits and healt coverage.


The "Jedi" was using all dark powers anyway...so its probably an internal struggle between bad vs bad  :twisted:   It looks cool though!
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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2006, 06:52:39 PM »

No way, that video was bullshit. There's no way the game is going to play and look like that, it was definately pre-rendered and if its not then those environment look like shit. Plus, there was no aiming mechanism, its obvious when the Jedi picks up that debri and throws it at the tie fighter.

I'll get excited when I see some in-game footage, assuming it doesn't look crummy like most other Star Wars games.
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2006, 07:09:12 PM »

Ok, I was keeping my opinion to myself, because it looked liked people enjoyed it and I didn't want to rain on someone else's parade.  However, I see some other people have the same dissenting viewpoint I had...

It reminds me exactly of the 'trapper town' demo before Hl2 came out.  It's not pre-rendered, but so heavily scripted that it lacks any punch.  (doing something on rails is just boring.)  The lack of a target cursor, as ridah pointed out, is pretty much an indicator.  The whole final bit, with the stormtrooper crying out and grabbing that ledge just seems fake.  If turtle is right, and that is just a feature of ai + articulation, then cool.  However, absolutely nothing in any of those shots looked dynamic to me.  It justs looks scripted.
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2006, 07:33:15 PM »

Sorry if I wasn't clear in my initial post - i don't think any of this is gameplay.

But rather pre-visual work (possibly using the early models and artwork) to demonstrate what the goal for the final game should be like.

in other words pretty much in the same vein as everything Sony showed at E3 2005.  ;-)
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2006, 07:45:58 PM »

Looks amazing. smile
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2006, 07:55:34 PM »

"However, absolutely nothing in any of those shots looked dynamic to me. It justs  looks scripted."
That's the goal of Lucasart's new Euphoria technology.  The AI will react dynamically to the player's actions and their environment, which would explain the disarmed stormtrooper's attempt to retake his gun, and the one clinging to the wreckage.  There's an article about how the technology is used in the new Indiana Jones game here.
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2006, 08:03:39 PM »

To me it looks like in-engine scripted stuff, although it is so very pretty.  Sooooo pretty.....

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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2006, 11:10:03 PM »

being a star wars freak i am.....a couple of questions

how come he used forced lightning?....thats a dark jedi/sith power

if it was that easy to just destroy the enemy(yes i am talking about stormtroopers into the TIEs)...then wouldnt episodes 1 and 2 battles(as well as clone wars)...been somewhat easier...i think they are overpowering the jedi!!

yes, i would have to say that it was proberbly cut scenes...but what the hell,it still looked good
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2006, 11:36:22 PM »

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being a star wars freak i am.....a couple of questions

how come he used forced lightning?....thats a dark jedi/sith power


In Jedi Outcast you can use Force Lightning and still be good- same for Jedi Academy and, IIRC,  Knights of the Old Republic.  

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if it was that easy to just destroy the enemy(yes i am talking about stormtroopers into the TIEs)...then wouldnt episodes 1 and 2 battles(as well as clone wars)...been somewhat easier...i think they are overpowering the jedi!!


He threw alot more than a Stormtrooper into the Tie Fighter, plus he was up against alot less than what most of the Jedi would have fought in the Clone Wars.
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2006, 11:46:28 PM »

actually someone suggested that this could be KOTOR3...i hope it is




yeah,maybe they were up against more,but bringing a ship down like that in any situation would of been good
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2006, 11:56:49 PM »

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Sorry if I wasn't clear in my initial post - i don't think any of this is gameplay.

But rather pre-visual work (possibly using the early models and artwork) to demonstrate what the goal for the final game should be like.

in other words pretty much in the same vein as everything Sony showed at E3 2006.  ;-)


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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2006, 12:14:06 AM »

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Sorry if I wasn't clear in my initial post - i don't think any of this is gameplay.

But rather pre-visual work (possibly using the early models and artwork) to demonstrate what the goal for the final game should be like.

in other words pretty much in the same vein as everything Sony showed at E3 2006.  ;-)


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Nope was referring to the 2005 E3 when they showed off stuff like those MotorStorm and Killzone videos as if they were "actual gameplay".

But thanks for playing.
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2006, 12:26:57 AM »

Hey man, I was there this year. I wasn't impressed with their continued smoke and mirrors attitude because what they did have on the floor not only wasn't impressive but it was also available on the 360 and looked the exact same.
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« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2006, 02:32:03 AM »

I hope it's new Jedi Knight game..
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« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2006, 12:04:48 PM »

Neat, but didn't knock my socks off.  The first few shots, with multiple troopers, looked like gameplay.  The last shot felt very scripted.  If it's scripted, my first impression is that this game has potential.  If it's new AI tech at work... this game'll be amazing.
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« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2006, 01:18:18 PM »

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Quote from: "DarkEL"
Sorry if I wasn't clear in my initial post - i don't think any of this is gameplay.

But rather pre-visual work (possibly using the early models and artwork) to demonstrate what the goal for the final game should be like.

in other words pretty much in the same vein as everything Sony showed at E3 2006.  ;-)


Fixed.


They did all their big show in 2005... what DID they show in 2006? You can shoot stuff in-game? I think the original version is correct.
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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2006, 02:00:35 AM »

IGN has an interview with a chap from LucasArts about this pre-vis video.
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2006, 03:23:13 PM »

Alternate link? It's been taken off YouTube.
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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2006, 04:10:59 PM »

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Alternate link? It's been taken off YouTube.


IGN has it on their site.
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