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« on: December 19, 2007, 11:03:31 PM »

http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/nomad.xml

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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2007, 11:16:38 PM »

Interesting if extremely plain and kind of..standard. Why does it look like it came out in 1999? Seriously?
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2007, 11:22:37 PM »

What's the ETA on this game?  I know officially "when it's done", but unofficially, any educated guesses?
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2007, 11:46:40 PM »

Quote from: Calvin on December 19, 2007, 11:16:38 PM

Interesting if extremely plain and kind of..standard. Why does it look like it came out in 1999? Seriously?

Guess I'm not the only one.  I'm sure they want every mom and pop (or more accurately every 엄마 and 아빠) Internet Cafe to be able to run the thing, but I really expected more of a graphical overhaul. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 12:11:15 AM »

I like the look.  It's not over the top.  Seems just right to me.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 01:44:24 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 19, 2007, 11:46:40 PM

Quote from: Calvin on December 19, 2007, 11:16:38 PM

Interesting if extremely plain and kind of..standard. Why does it look like it came out in 1999? Seriously?

Guess I'm not the only one.  I'm sure they want every mom and pop (or more accurately every 엄마 and 아빠) Internet Cafe to be able to run the thing, but I really expected more of a graphical overhaul. 

same here.  the wow factor is not happening.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 01:47:42 AM »

So, I guess this is their tier 2 construction unit combined with the detection and scouting abilities of the science ship?  I never really played Starcraft 1, so I don't know how things worked with the terrans.

What turrets did the terrans have before?  Was it only bunkers and AA turrets?
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 01:49:02 AM »

Quote from: Turtle on December 20, 2007, 01:47:42 AM

What turrets did the terrans have before?  Was it only bunkers and AA turrets?

yep.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 06:33:14 PM »

imho, all over the top graphics and excessive system requirements do is make it harder for RTS games to sell (I have no doubt it hurt my fave Company of Heroes, a game many gamer buds of mine simply assumed they couldn't run; and probably did no good for C&C3 to have FPS-type system requirements).

Still, I do think they're hugging the original games' look and viewing angle almost too closely. I understand the "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" mentality along with the obsession of not alienating the South Korean market that worships SC1, but it does almost look more like an expansion upgrade or some "corporate sponsored fan mod project," rather than a new game.

Certainly it's nothing like the visual jump from Warcraft II to Warcraft III. But hey, did you ever buy a Blizzard game because the graphics blew you away? I know I didn't. smile

Goliaths are my all time favorite SC unit, maybe all time RTS unit. Even if I'd send a bunch to their doom, just loved 'em and the "Goliath online!" voice line.  icon_cool
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2007, 07:03:24 PM »

Awesome, Veritec...I mean Viking mech   thumbsup
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2007, 07:34:06 PM »

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Awww hell....why you gotta go changing my mind like that?  These guys are cool. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2007, 07:54:54 PM »

Thanks for the link, leo.

 
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2007, 08:08:00 PM »

The animation of the units I saw of StarCraft II at GenCon was actually quite impressive.  There's a lot personality to the troops.  The gameplay seemed pretty solid already, although they admitted that they needed to do some balancing yet.  Even StarCraft didn't look all that great when it was first released, and I'm tired of feeling like I need to purchase a video card that costs the same as the PS3 to run new games.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2007, 08:15:35 PM »

Quote from: Graham on December 20, 2007, 08:08:00 PM

The animation of the units I saw of StarCraft II at GenCon was actually quite impressive.  There's a lot personality to the troops.  The gameplay seemed pretty solid already, although they admitted that they needed to do some balancing yet.  Even StarCraft didn't look all that great when it was first released, and I'm tired of feeling like I need to purchase a video card that costs the same as the PS3 to run new games.

Yeah when I watched the videos that came out a bit ago, I was drooling with anticipation.  I never played SC online.  I played quite a bit of WC3.  I'm just looking forward to continuing the storyline!
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2007, 10:00:43 PM »

I think it looks exactly how it should look.

I'm also excited that the system requirements will very likely allow me to run it very happily on my year and a half old laptop.

If ever there was a game that needed to be pretty, but with the most minimal system requirements possible... this is it. And it looks like they're doing exactly that. The game is beautiful in motion, the effects, explosions, and all that stuff are great, and the look is packed with so much personality I couldn't care less that the engine itself could probably have been technically possible two, three, or even four years ago.

It just doesn't matter.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2007, 10:49:29 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 19, 2007, 11:46:40 PM

Quote from: Calvin on December 19, 2007, 11:16:38 PM

Interesting if extremely plain and kind of..standard. Why does it look like it came out in 1999? Seriously?

Guess I'm not the only one.  I'm sure they want every mom and pop (or more accurately every 엄마 and 아빠) Internet Cafe to be able to run the thing, but I really expected more of a graphical overhaul. 

Wow, you speak Korean, KD?  icon_surprised eek
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2007, 11:11:40 PM »

Quote from: namatoki on December 20, 2007, 10:49:29 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on December 19, 2007, 11:46:40 PM

Quote from: Calvin on December 19, 2007, 11:16:38 PM

Interesting if extremely plain and kind of..standard. Why does it look like it came out in 1999? Seriously?

Guess I'm not the only one.  I'm sure they want every mom and pop (or more accurately every 엄마 and 아빠) Internet Cafe to be able to run the thing, but I really expected more of a graphical overhaul. 

Wow, you speak Korean, KD?  icon_surprised eek

A little bit, yes.  smile  I'm going to be taking Japanese soon as well.
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2007, 07:22:17 PM »

Quote from: Graham on December 20, 2007, 08:08:00 PM

The animation of the units I saw of StarCraft II at GenCon was actually quite impressive.  There's a lot personality to the troops.  The gameplay seemed pretty solid already, although they admitted that they needed to do some balancing yet.  Even StarCraft didn't look all that great when it was first released, and I'm tired of feeling like I need to purchase a video card that costs the same as the PS3 to run new games.

Well said.  I'm glad I'll get to play Starcraft 2. I am done playing the upgrade game on my PC. If it required a monster PC, I would have had to pass even though the original was probably my favorite game of all time.
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2007, 07:37:46 PM »

Quote from: Graham on December 20, 2007, 08:08:00 PM

Even StarCraft didn't look all that great when it was first released, and I'm tired of feeling like I need to purchase a video card that costs the same as the PS3 to run new games.

You and me both.  I'll probably still be plugging away with my 6800GT when this comes out, and I'll bet that'll be enough to run it.
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2007, 05:15:55 PM »

Glad they aren't going bleeding edge with the graphics either. They are colorful, and clean so you will know easily what everything is right away. Also seeing it in motion the animation looks really good with nice effects. Blizzard has never pushed the envelope with graphics and it hasn't hurt them before.
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« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2007, 12:56:09 AM »

Quote from: Jumangi on December 24, 2007, 05:15:55 PM

Glad they aren't going bleeding edge with the graphics either. They are colorful, and clean so you will know easily what everything is right away. Also seeing it in motion the animation looks really good with nice effects. Blizzard has never pushed the envelope with graphics and it hasn't hurt them before.

Doesn't mean it won't this time (as if there is any chance of this not selling like gangbusters...)
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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2007, 03:20:47 AM »

I don't particularly care that they aren't going for bleeding graphics, their animantions should make up for it.

Though from what i've seen its still old school conservative RTS fare, which sucks.
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« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2007, 06:02:14 AM »

Quote from: Thin_J on December 20, 2007, 10:00:43 PM

I think it looks exactly how it should look.

Yeah, that's my reaction as well.  It looks almost exactly like the original game, just in 3D.  And I mean that in a totally good way. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2007, 05:45:40 PM »

Quote from: CSL on December 25, 2007, 03:20:47 AM

I don't particularly care that they aren't going for bleeding graphics, their animantions should make up for it.

Though from what i've seen its still old school conservative RTS fare, which sucks.

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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2007, 01:52:41 AM »

Quote from: CSL on December 25, 2007, 03:20:47 AM

Though from what i've seen its still old school conservative RTS fare, which sucks.

Unless you like old-school RTS games, and dislike the new ones, in which case it's great  icon_wink
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2007, 06:09:35 PM »

I am not too terribly impressed with the graphics. While not a huge point with me, it seems like that could have found a better balance between the range of machines out there. Meaning, add more graphic bells and whistles to push top of the line machines yet still keeping the base graphics looking good. You know, scalability. But, that being said, I seem to recall some article that talked about multiplayer matches where all sides did a zergling rush. This basically puts max units on the screen and supposedly is rather graphically intensive. So folks thinking they don't need hearty machines to run it might not be as thrilled as they think they will be in certain cases.

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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 01:26:21 AM »

StarCraft II  bowdown bowdown bowdown bowdown bowdown
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2008, 05:33:44 PM »

SIEGE TANK
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2008, 12:16:15 AM »

I think there's a video on gametrailers that goes into the campaign somewhat.  It outlined a break from traditional RTS mission screens in that you can talk to NPC's and explore your command center (a battlecruiser for Jim Raynor).  You can also buy upgrades between missions and maybe select between various missions.  Anyway, I was mildly excited before seeing these videos and very excited afterward.  I don't think Blizzard is planning on sticking with the same-old same-old.  This won't be just Starcraft in 3d.
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 01:25:08 AM »

Quote from: Lockdown on January 11, 2008, 05:33:44 PM


am I remembering it wrong or does it seem like they toned down it's power?
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« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2008, 06:56:57 AM »

I love the graphics, and I'm a graphix whore. Loaded with personality.
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« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2008, 04:10:20 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on January 12, 2008, 01:25:08 AM

Quote from: Lockdown on January 11, 2008, 05:33:44 PM


am I remembering it wrong or does it seem like they toned down it's power?

I'm sure there still loads of testing to go, but it did take a few shots on those footmen.
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2008, 05:09:31 PM »

Hmm i'm getting quite excited about this game - colour me on the side that enjoys the looks of all the units
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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2008, 07:00:37 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2008, 10:46:01 PM »

Took a couple shots for the medic to die but it was taking out a couple marines at a time with one shot, which seems to be on par with the original siege tank. Love the new model looks so much better than the old one.
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