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« on: November 24, 2007, 03:47:33 AM »

5 minutes into Mass Effect I got my first Xbox 360 failure. I'm disappointed because this is the game I've been waiting all year to play.

Luckily it is of the "three ring" variety so I'll be fine. Anyway, I called up my friend and told him about my bad luck. He graciously invited me over to join him in playing Mass Effect at his house. 30 minutes into the game his Xbox 360 gives him three red lights. We've dubbed our misfortune the the "Mass Effect Effect".  It also goes by the term "The Kevin Grey Karma Ripple", as he was the last person I poked fun at who had this exact same problem.

BTW, I bought an extended warranty at EBGames last year when I purchased the console in November 2006. I just can't find my warranty receipt to verify what DAY in November I made the purchase. I'm assuming Gamestop will have this warranty in their database? Correct?


Oh, and to any of you playing Mass Effect-----> A plague of locusts upon you!

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2007, 03:54:16 AM »

Kevin Grey Karma Ripple...that is hilarious.

Sorry about your unfortunate luck.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2007, 04:10:39 AM »

Quote from: Dante Rising on November 24, 2007, 03:47:33 AM

BTW, I bought an extended warranty at EBGames last year when I purchased the console in November 2006. I just can't find my warranty receipt to verify what DAY in November I made the purchase. I'm assuming Gamestop will have this warranty in their database? Correct?

Maybe. I'd keep digging around and find that warranty just to be sure.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2007, 04:25:43 AM »

Quote from: Dante Rising on November 24, 2007, 03:47:33 AM

It also goes by the term "The Kevin Grey Karma Ripple", as he was the last person I poked fun at who had this exact same problem.

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Well, you can always console yourself by reading some of the mixed reactions and think "yeah, I'm not missing much".... but then again I think it's pretty damn great. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2007, 04:27:51 AM »

COINCIDENCE?
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2007, 05:14:09 AM »

Quote from: gellar on November 24, 2007, 04:27:51 AM

COINCIDENCE?
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2007, 05:20:28 AM »

it's pretty damn obvious at this point that the rrod is the real 'mass effect' around here...
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2007, 06:26:51 AM »

I got hit with it too.  I'll join you in blaming it on Kevin.  smile
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2007, 07:13:20 AM »

Having just gone through the PRP process for a friend, you don't need your reciept, but it helps speed things up immensely.

As long as you have the serial number of your xbox the store can call and get the other info you need.  It'll probably take 20-30 minutes however.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2007, 07:30:00 AM »

Quote from: Jarrodhk on November 24, 2007, 07:13:20 AM

Having just gone through the PRP process for a friend, you don't need your reciept, but it helps speed things up immensely.

As long as you have the serial number of your xbox the store can call and get the other info you need.  It'll probably take 20-30 minutes however.

Funny....I somehow recall this process
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2007, 09:20:13 AM »

now you're scaring me,as my xbox froze about 3 hrs into mass effect! icon_eek
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 02:47:14 PM »

My September born system have been playing ME for 6-8 hour stretches for the past couple of days with no hiccups. This coming off of 8hr stretches over the weekend with Assassins Creed. She seems to be pulling her weight well, and to my surprise it is not running hot at all. If it survives till January with all the hours its been putting in, I would be inclined to assume Microsoft fixed the problems.

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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 04:00:36 PM »

I know people are gonna hate me for this, but once you get your systems patched up and you play the exclusives you want.  Consider getting a PS3.
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 04:49:25 PM »

Quote from: Turtle on November 24, 2007, 04:00:36 PM

I know people are gonna hate me for this, but once you get your systems patched up and you play the exclusives you want.  Consider getting a PS3.

I think you've posted that enough times now.

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2007, 06:05:34 PM »

Quote from: gellar on November 24, 2007, 04:49:25 PM

Quote from: Turtle on November 24, 2007, 04:00:36 PM

I know people are gonna hate me for this, but once you get your systems patched up and you play the exclusives you want.  Consider getting a PS3.

I think you've posted that enough times now.

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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2007, 02:03:09 PM »

Quote from: Dante Rising on November 24, 2007, 03:47:33 AM

BTW, I bought an extended warranty at EBGames last year when I purchased the console in November 2006. I just can't find my warranty receipt to verify what DAY in November I made the purchase. I'm assuming Gamestop will have this warranty in their database? Correct?

If you can't find the receipt, they can track down the warranty info (via phone) based on your serial number.
It can take a little while, especially this time of year, but it can certainly be done.
Giving them as much info as possible will help.
For instance, if you're sure it was November '06 that will be a big help.
Also, knowing which store it was purchased at will be very helpful.
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2007, 03:39:18 PM »

Quote from: Misguided on November 25, 2007, 02:03:09 PM

Quote from: Dante Rising on November 24, 2007, 03:47:33 AM

BTW, I bought an extended warranty at EBGames last year when I purchased the console in November 2006. I just can't find my warranty receipt to verify what DAY in November I made the purchase. I'm assuming Gamestop will have this warranty in their database? Correct?

If you can't find the receipt, they can track down the warranty info (via phone) based on your serial number.
It can take a little while, especially this time of year, but it can certainly be done.
Giving them as much info as possible will help.
For instance, if you're sure it was November '06 that will be a big help.
Also, knowing which store it was purchased at will be very helpful.

Thanks for the info. I know the store and the month, so hopefully I won't make their job too difficult. I'm praying that I'm not outside my extended warranty window. If I am it is only by a few days or weeks and that would be frustrating. I'd still be covered by MS, but I don't want to wait through the process or end up with a refurbished unit.
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2007, 09:50:56 PM »

My January 2006 system is still going strong and has handled some 6 hours stretches of Mass Effect (knock on wood).
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2007, 10:21:07 PM »

Quote from: Azhag on November 25, 2007, 09:50:56 PM

My January 2006 system is still going strong and has handled some 6 hours stretches of Mass Effect (knock on wood).

My 6 month or so old console also is running fine with very long stretches of the game.

And I don't need to knock on wood - I still have a good Gamestop warranty. biggrin
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM »

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2007, 04:49:58 AM »

Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2007, 05:51:02 AM »

Quote from: Hrothgar on November 26, 2007, 04:49:58 AM

Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.

hmmm, maybe I should take this off my christmas list.  I do not want to deal with this
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2007, 08:30:16 AM »

Quote from: naednek on November 26, 2007, 05:51:02 AM

Quote from: Hrothgar on November 26, 2007, 04:49:58 AM

Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.

hmmm, maybe I should take this off my christmas list.  I do not want to deal with this

Um...it has nothing to do with Mass Effect man.
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2007, 01:40:27 PM »

Quote from: Calvin on November 26, 2007, 08:30:16 AM

Quote from: naednek on November 26, 2007, 05:51:02 AM

Quote from: Hrothgar on November 26, 2007, 04:49:58 AM

Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.
hmmm, maybe I should take this off my christmas list.  I do not want to deal with this
Um...it has nothing to do with Mass Effect man.

Yup - just a VERY poorly designed console. When it's time to die, it dies. Doesn't matter what game is in it.
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2007, 02:43:18 PM »

Quote from: Calvin on November 26, 2007, 08:30:16 AM

Quote from: naednek on November 26, 2007, 05:51:02 AM

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Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.

hmmm, maybe I should take this off my christmas list.  I do not want to deal with this

Um...it has nothing to do with Mass Effect man.

How do you know? Is it probably a coincidence? Yes. But is it also possible that Mass Effect makes the 360 run harder than usual and thus is more likely to overheat? Maybe.
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2007, 09:20:06 PM »

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on November 26, 2007, 02:43:18 PM

Quote from: Calvin on November 26, 2007, 08:30:16 AM

Quote from: naednek on November 26, 2007, 05:51:02 AM

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Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.

hmmm, maybe I should take this off my christmas list.  I do not want to deal with this

Um...it has nothing to do with Mass Effect man.

How do you know? Is it probably a coincidence? Yes. But is it also possible that Mass Effect makes the 360 run harder than usual and thus is more likely to overheat? Maybe.
Sure, I definitely think that the game is capable of breaking 360s. It's that technically demanding. I hope my intention is dripping here.
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2007, 09:20:50 PM »

Quote from: Calvin on November 26, 2007, 09:20:06 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on November 26, 2007, 02:43:18 PM

Quote from: Calvin on November 26, 2007, 08:30:16 AM

Quote from: naednek on November 26, 2007, 05:51:02 AM

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Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.

hmmm, maybe I should take this off my christmas list.  I do not want to deal with this

Um...it has nothing to do with Mass Effect man.

How do you know? Is it probably a coincidence? Yes. But is it also possible that Mass Effect makes the 360 run harder than usual and thus is more likely to overheat? Maybe.
Sure, I definitely think that the game is capable of breaking 360s. It's that technically demanding. I hope my intention is dripping here.

Maybe poorly programmed games cause the 360 to break more? slywink

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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2007, 01:40:40 AM »

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on November 26, 2007, 02:43:18 PM

Quote from: Calvin on November 26, 2007, 08:30:16 AM

Quote from: naednek on November 26, 2007, 05:51:02 AM

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Quote from: Cleric7 on November 26, 2007, 04:36:47 AM

My third 360 red-ringed 5 minutes into Mass Effect.
Add a couple of reboots on mine, and it was the same story.  That was my third as well.

hmmm, maybe I should take this off my christmas list.  I do not want to deal with this

Um...it has nothing to do with Mass Effect man.

How do you know? Is it probably a coincidence? Yes. But is it also possible that Mass Effect makes the 360 run harder than usual and thus is more likely to overheat? Maybe.

Ding Ding, it's quite easy to put two and two together.  Does it mean it's the reason for all recent deaths?  No, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence that quite a few members have reported that their machine crapped out when they were playing this game
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2007, 01:42:37 AM »

Quote from: naednek on November 27, 2007, 01:40:40 AM

Ding Ding, it's quite easy to put two and two together.  Does it mean it's the reason for all recent deaths?  No, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence that quite a few members have reported that their machine crapped out when they were playing this game

FWIW, despite the aforementioned "Kevin Grey Karma" it was actually Assassin's Creed that did my 360 in. 
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2007, 02:01:27 AM »

I was fully expecting mine to die sometime during the running of the AC/Rock Band/Mass Effect gauntlet.  I just didn't expect it to happen the day before.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2007, 03:08:30 AM »

It really does seem somewhat random.  It'll die as much from being left alone as playing a very intense game.

There's as many people saying the system dies the day before as during gameplay, which is really odd if you think about it.  I'm just glad costco exchanged my system so I could play mass effect over the break.
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2007, 04:51:56 AM »

Quote from: naednek on November 27, 2007, 01:40:40 AM

Ding Ding, it's quite easy to put two and two together.  Does it mean it's the reason for all recent deaths?  No, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence that quite a few members have reported that their machine crapped out when they were playing this game
i'd say it has much more to do with the extended play sessions that people are currently having with ME/AC/RB than a problem in the actual coding of the game itself.  with all three of these games released at once, hardcore gamers are likely spending a lot more time with their 360 on than they have in the previous weeks...enough time that it brings failures that have been brewing for a long time to the surface.  if the recent rash of RRoDs were really due to a problem with Mass Effect, it would be much more widespread...every 360 that runs the game would eventually be affected.
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2007, 05:42:33 PM »

Any idea if they have fixed some of these Xbox 360 issues in the new Elite console?  I'm considering getting one right now, but I'm not sure if the newer systems would avoid these issues.
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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2007, 06:44:53 PM »

Theoretically every game should tax the system to the max.  The reason is that there's no incentive to optimize beyond the point where 100% of the system's power provides acceptable performance.  Games that look better should simply have systems that run more leanly for one reason or another.  It's possible Mass Effect is more demanding of the max power in more situations, but I wouldn't think it's any more demanding than Call of Duty or Gears of War. 

The only thing I think Mass Effect does substantially more frequently than other games is disc access - it really crunches the disc a lot.  But I don't think that has much at all to do with overall temperature.  It's probably more just a big game that lots of people are playing (and playing for long periods), and since lots of people are playing, you're going to get more failures.  Essentially a self-fufilling prophecy.
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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2007, 07:46:58 PM »

Quote from: kathode on November 28, 2007, 06:44:53 PM

It's probably more just a big game that lots of people are playing (and playing for long periods), and since lots of people are playing, you're going to get more failures.  Essentially a self-fufilling prophecy.

That's how I see it too. Every older console will fail once you hit a certain number of hours, based simply on poor design of the console. Who knows what your 'magic number' is.

That said - I haven't heard of any issues of the newer consoles failing, but your mileage may vary.
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