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« on: October 29, 2004, 05:55:29 PM »

KOTOR 2 is due out in December and I'm Jonesin!

I played through as good the first time and was wondering if it's worth the time investment to play through again as evil in order see both sides of the story.

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2004, 06:38:15 PM »

Abso-freaking-lutely. Play it immediately.

Caveat: Playing it through a second time is MUCH better on the PC. The load times alone are so much better that it is painful toplay thru on XBox again (I seriously seriously hope they fix the load issues in KOTOR 2).

Either way, the game feels different gonig thru the Dark Side, and it tends to be lots of fun to be bad. Go for it!

And ignore LE...at least about this game.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2004, 07:26:26 PM »

just keep in mind that this game allows you to be as evil as any game ive ever seen

this isnt burning villages cuz your bored evil this is make me shudder while i select the option evil

i enjoyed it immensely, if a game can make me feel bad about doing something then i think it did a fine job.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2004, 09:37:43 PM »

The evil option opens up some chilling options.  It's very cool what they did with it, but my nature tends to like to play the good guys I guess.  I think they went more for psychopath than for chilling evil guy, though.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2004, 09:42:00 PM »

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The evil option opens up some chilling options.  It's very cool what they did with it, but my nature tends to like to play the good guys I guess.  I think they went more for psychopath than for chilling evil guy, though.


Naw, you could be lukewarm evil. I mean hey, evil can wear bunny-slippers, right? I'm sure Darth Vader would go for a pedicure... if he still had his toes, that is.

There were moments in that game where *I* couldn't physically choose the most vile path. The wookies were one of them (I still pissed em off though) and the woman on tatooine who wanted to get off the planet.

It was just plain wrong. I don't need that kind of pseudo-karma destroying me.  :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2004, 06:25:12 AM »

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i enjoyed it immensely, if a game can make me feel bad about doing something then i think it did a fine job.

I share that sentiment.  Some of the evil dialogue/options are more sociopathic than anything...but some of them are brutal.

Definitely go PC version if you can.

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2004, 03:45:59 PM »

I'm actually about haflway through as evil after beating it on good and it's been interesting seeing all the little changes.  Also interesting doing the planets in a different order.  Pretty amazing how they got that part of the game to dynamically change in difficulty based on how many planets you've cleared, not to mention having the main events in different parts.

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2004, 10:05:14 PM »

I tried playing it twice through as different sides but...frankly, i couldn't get past that certain point where I just got so angry at what they'd done to me that I fell to the Dark Side..

Frankly...I wish they'd get away from the whole dark side / light side thing.  It's obvious thats a false belief that the force has two sides.  The force just exists.  How it's used does effect it's nature.  The real question posed by star wars is does anger really always lead to suffering.  Or, could there be righteous anger which leads to good and the diminishing of suffereing.

Some of the worst evil can be done by those devoid of anger and truely believing that they're doing good and right.  They're just mixed up, like a lot of the old republic jedi council was.  The Jedi, in an effort to walls themselves off from the rest of the universe and set themselves apart, bound themselves to overly restrictive code which was designed to subdue emotion and encourage blind faith.  This was done after the great Sith wars when the real destruction of Jedi out of control was apparent.  Unfotunately, it was taken to far, and by the time of Anakin Skywalker, the Jedi were a case of the blind leading the blind.

The effect was that anger, frustration, love, kindness were given no outlets. Jedi were basically not allowed to show emotion.  They were to take a hands off policy with regard to the world around them.  They refused to judge anyone or anything but bound themselves to a blind, passive service to the republican sentate which they simply watched deteriorate around them while they did nothing but watch and listen on the side.

So, eventually, their system breaks, anger builds and no outlet is allowed.  Thus, the only outlet available for Jedi was to turn to the mythical "dark side" and be consumed by anger.   The anger at the jedi system and the jedi trying to force them to kill their emotions but at the same time listen to their feelings is what drove the jedi to be so consumed by their anger when they finally let it out.

Thus....my character's boiling point, where I never could get past without going utterly dark side and being consumed with anger at the Jedi system.  The light Jedi are sick, they allow themselves to get away with murder of MILLIONS with zero punishment if they eventually "turn back to the light".  They are far worse than the jedi they call "dark" because they stand up for nothing.

Why would you want to play light side all the way through that game?  The light jedi are a bunch of pansies who have been blinded by thousands of years of fear of emotions.  They are insane.

Enough of my ranting about dark side/light side star wars games....
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2004, 10:42:56 PM »

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I tried playing it twice through as different sides but...frankly, i couldn't get past that certain point where I just got so angry at what they'd done to me that I fell to the Dark Side..

Frankly...I wish they'd get away from the whole dark side / light side thing.  It's obvious thats a false belief that the force has two sides.  The force just exists.  How it's used does effect it's nature.  The real question posed by star wars is does anger really always lead to suffering.  Or, could there be righteous anger which leads to good and the diminishing of suffereing.

Some of the worst evil can be done by those devoid of anger and truely believing that they're doing good and right.  They're just mixed up, like a lot of the old republic jedi council was.  The Jedi, in an effort to walls themselves off from the rest of the universe and set themselves apart, bound themselves to overly restrictive code which was designed to subdue emotion and encourage blind faith.  This was done after the great Sith wars when the real destruction of Jedi out of control was apparent.  Unfotunately, it was taken to far, and by the time of Anakin Skywalker, the Jedi were a case of the blind leading the blind.

The effect was that anger, frustration, love, kindness were given no outlets. Jedi were basically not allowed to show emotion.  They were to take a hands off policy with regard to the world around them.  They refused to judge anyone or anything but bound themselves to a blind, passive service to the republican sentate which they simply watched deteriorate around them while they did nothing but watch and listen on the side.

So, eventually, their system breaks, anger builds and no outlet is allowed.  Thus, the only outlet available for Jedi was to turn to the mythical "dark side" and be consumed by anger.   The anger at the jedi system and the jedi trying to force them to kill their emotions but at the same time listen to their feelings is what drove the jedi to be so consumed by their anger when they finally let it out.

Thus....my character's boiling point, where I never could get past without going utterly dark side and being consumed with anger at the Jedi system.  The light Jedi are sick, they allow themselves to get away with murder of MILLIONS with zero punishment if they eventually "turn back to the light".  They are far worse than the jedi they call "dark" because they stand up for nothing.

Why would you want to play light side all the way through that game?  The light jedi are a bunch of pansies who have been blinded by thousands of years of fear of emotions.  They are insane.

Enough of my ranting about dark side/light side star wars games....

You're voting republican, aren't you? slywink

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2004, 11:33:15 PM »

Only because the Libertarians don't stand a chance=P
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2004, 03:10:06 PM »

The evil path is decent. For the most part, it just consists of being a thug, but there are some good evil things you can do. The dark side powers are pretty nice though so messing with them is probably worth it if you haven't burned yourself out yet.
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