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« on: May 10, 2007, 03:30:50 PM »

Detailed figures here.

TLDR: DS + Wii take up 26 of the top 30 spots.  Dayum.
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 03:43:22 PM »

No 360 games is not surprising, but no PS3 games?



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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 03:57:26 PM »

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No 360 games is not surprising, but no PS3 games?



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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2007, 04:06:26 PM »

This one will never get old!

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2007, 04:41:24 PM »

Looks like Nintendo is back on top.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2007, 04:48:42 PM »

In addition, I read somewhere else that Nintendo has just passed 10 million DS Lites sold in Japan, with a global sales figure of around 22 million (and total DS sales totaling about 40 million).

The scary part? There's only ~120 million people in Japan. That means that one out of every 12 people own a DSL.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2007, 05:30:20 PM »

Further proving Japan is no longer the video game capital of the world.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2007, 05:47:06 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2007, 07:24:25 PM »

Software shmoftware, look at the hardware, you can check out the Hardware for 4/22 to 4/29, the Wii practically outsold the PS3 10:1. I expect much of the same for 4/30 - 5/06
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2007, 07:36:45 PM »

Quote from: Tebunker on May 10, 2007, 07:24:25 PM

Software shmoftware, look at the hardware, you can check out the Hardware for 4/22 to 4/29, the Wii practically outsold the PS3 10:1. I expect much of the same for 4/30 - 5/06

At least the PS3 managed to outsell the PS2 that week!  (by 200 units)
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2007, 07:43:12 PM »

Is there a Wii Sports that sells seperately, or is that a direct correlation with the number of Wiis sold?
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2007, 07:49:50 PM »

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Is there a Wii Sports that sells seperately, or is that a direct correlation with the number of Wiis sold?

For some reason Wii Sports is included with the system everywhere but Japan.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2007, 07:57:08 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on May 10, 2007, 07:49:50 PM

Quote from: javahead on May 10, 2007, 07:43:12 PM

Is there a Wii Sports that sells seperately, or is that a direct correlation with the number of Wiis sold?

For some reason Wii Sports is included with the system everywhere but Japan.

Why include it when they (obviously) will buy it anyway?
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2007, 07:57:24 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on May 10, 2007, 07:49:50 PM

Quote from: javahead on May 10, 2007, 07:43:12 PM

Is there a Wii Sports that sells seperately, or is that a direct correlation with the number of Wiis sold?

For some reason Wii Sports is included with the system everywhere but Japan.
Other than Baseball, perhaps the other sports aren't as popular in Japan?
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2007, 08:10:41 PM »

Quote from: javahead on May 10, 2007, 07:57:24 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on May 10, 2007, 07:49:50 PM

Quote from: javahead on May 10, 2007, 07:43:12 PM

Is there a Wii Sports that sells seperately, or is that a direct correlation with the number of Wiis sold?
For some reason Wii Sports is included with the system everywhere but Japan.
Other than Baseball, perhaps the other sports aren't as popular in Japan?
Tennis is huge in Japan, I believe golf is pretty popular as well, and I do remember seeing some bowling alleys when I was there.  No idea about boxing.

I think it more has to do with Nintendo knowing they'd have an easier time gaining acceptance for the Wii in Japan compared to the rest of the world.  As a tech demo and through word-of-mouth, I think Wii Sports was pretty crucial to system's success here.

Besides, the 4/30-5/06 week lists the LTD sales as 1.4million Wii Sports and 2.2million Wii systems.  Two out of three ain't too shabby.
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2007, 08:33:45 PM »

Quote from: Tebunker on May 10, 2007, 07:24:25 PM

Software shmoftware, look at the hardware, you can check out the Hardware for 4/22 to 4/29, the Wii practically outsold the PS3 10:1. I expect much of the same for 4/30 - 5/06

Where do you get the hardware sales figures? I couldn't find them on the NeoGaf site when I followed the link at the top of this thread.
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2007, 08:47:41 PM »

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Quote from: Tebunker on May 10, 2007, 07:24:25 PM

Software shmoftware, look at the hardware, you can check out the Hardware for 4/22 to 4/29, the Wii practically outsold the PS3 10:1. I expect much of the same for 4/30 - 5/06

Where do you get the hardware sales figures? I couldn't find them on the NeoGaf site when I followed the link at the top of this thread.

They don't have them yet for this week. Scroll down and click on the 4/23-4/29 week, then you'll see hardware sales underneath the software.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2007, 10:55:14 PM »

Quote from: Ridah on May 10, 2007, 05:30:20 PM

Further proving Japan is no longer the video game capital of the world.

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 Japan proved to be one of the main reasons Sony dominated so well last two generations, and why Nintendo was so big prior to that, but now that their tastes don't align with your tastes, they're not as relevant? Right.

Japanese developers see how big the Wii is in there home market, it only becomes natural to develop for the big player in your home market. They see it has great sales in the other territories too, and then they develop for the system. The cycle repeats itself. By the end of the year Nintendo will have a near unassailable lead in Japan, and will probably be close, if not in the number 1 hardware sales slot worldwide, software follows. No it won't be PS2 like domination, but I certainly see the market place being more 40% Wii, 35% 360 and 25% PS3, I just don't see one system ruling the roost. Japan alone will make the Wii more and more relevant.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2007, 12:05:40 AM »

Quote from: Tebunker on May 10, 2007, 10:55:14 PM

No it won't be PS2 like domination, but I certainly see the market place being more 40% Wii, 35% 360 and 25% PS3, I just don't see one system ruling the roost. Japan alone will make the Wii more and more relevant.

Although with how the consoles are selling in Japan, it's more like this:

Absolutely nobody wants a 360, a few people want a PS3, and everybody wants a Wii (and DS).
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2007, 12:18:57 AM »

Oh it's domination alright, but not by the Wii.
Since the first of the year, you''ve seen pretty much the same thing every week in Japan:

Wii console sales for the week = sales of every non-Nintendo game system added together.
DS sales = 2x Wii sales.
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2007, 06:30:34 AM »

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Japan proved to be one of the main reasons Sony dominated so well last two generations, and why Nintendo was so big prior to that, but now that their tastes don't align with your tastes, they're not as relevant? Right.

All I'm saying is, Japan is proving to be only capable of supporting one console per generation. Last generation it was Sony, this generation it looks like Nintendo (at least until the PS3 software starts taking off). On the other hand, North America doesn't have a big problem with all three major platforms holding a nice slice of pie, and Europe also has proven to be a market that can support at least two major platforms. If I were a game company, I'd definately be aiming at the more open-minded regions.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2007, 11:31:29 AM »

Quote from: Ridah on May 11, 2007, 06:30:34 AM

If I were a game company, I'd definately be aiming at the more open-minded regions.

Here's the thing, though. Hardware sales in japan drives software development in Japan. We've already seen this (e.g. Dragon Quest migrating to DS). This, in turn, drives console sales outside of Japan. Not disagreeing with your premise that more than one console can exist in the US/Europe, but we haven't felt the full effects of this yet.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2007, 01:08:07 PM »

Quote from: Misguided on May 11, 2007, 11:31:29 AM

Quote from: Ridah on May 11, 2007, 06:30:34 AM

If I were a game company, I'd definately be aiming at the more open-minded regions.

Here's the thing, though. Hardware sales in japan drives software development in Japan. We've already seen this (e.g. Dragon Quest migrating to DS). This, in turn, drives console sales outside of Japan. Not disagreeing with your premise that more than one console can exist in the US/Europe, but we haven't felt the full effects of this yet.

Ehhh..to some extent. I think you are vastly overstating the effect of the japanese developers and Japanese games on the US and Euro market. I would venture a guess without access to hard numbers that Western developed games in total vastly outsell Japanese developed games in Europe and the US.
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2007, 11:35:18 PM »

Perhaps.  I wonder what it would look like if you removed yearly sports releases from the picture.
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2007, 01:21:28 PM »

Quote from: Canuck on May 11, 2007, 11:35:18 PM

Perhaps.  I wonder what it would look like if you removed yearly sports releases from the picture.

I think Calvin's question is an interesting one. So is yours, Canuck, but that's like asking what if we removed RPGs from the picture biggrin
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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2007, 02:26:15 PM »

Is there a site somewhere that shows total 360 and Wii sales in North America since they were released?
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2007, 06:27:57 PM »

I see that my Sam's has oodles and oodles of Wii's now.  Maybe the shortage is near an end.  As a matter of fact they had gobs of all three now. 
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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2007, 12:36:46 AM »

Quote from: Canuck on May 11, 2007, 11:35:18 PM

Perhaps.  I wonder what it would look like if you removed yearly sports releases from the picture.

It doesn't look like there are any on the list.


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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2007, 02:46:59 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 13, 2007, 12:36:46 AM

Quote from: Canuck on May 11, 2007, 11:35:18 PM

Perhaps.  I wonder what it would look like if you removed yearly sports releases from the picture.

It doesn't look like there are any on the list.

I think he's talking about games sold in western countries--which don't typically show up on Japanese sales charts. ;)
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2007, 05:13:58 PM »

Quote from: mikeg on May 12, 2007, 06:27:57 PM

I see that my Sam's has oodles and oodles of Wii's now.  Maybe the shortage is near an end.  As a matter of fact they had gobs of all three now. 

I've yet to see a Wii available for online purchase at futureshop.ca, bestbuy.ca or toyrus.ca. So at least in Canada the Wii is still in very short supply. It's also not available in any of the EB or Walmart stores in my area; was just checking for a friend yesterday. In contrast, by this time last year the 360 was available at most retailers.
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« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2007, 05:22:51 PM »

I have to be honest - the Wii hasn't gotten much playtime in my house.  Once the initial luster wore off I felt kinda cheated again.  :/
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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2007, 05:34:43 PM »

BTW I noticed that the NeoGAF site has now posted the hardware sales for week covered in the link. The hardware trend for the previous week were more or less maintained with the exception of the DS which increased by 30k units.
Which poses the question, how the freaking hell did Nintendo manage to increase their weekly sales by 30k in Japan when they're already selling 1/4 million units/week!?  icon_eek
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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2007, 07:32:24 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on May 13, 2007, 05:34:43 PM

Which poses the question, how the freaking hell did Nintendo manage to increase their weekly sales by 30k in Japan when they're already selling 1/4 million units/week!?  icon_eek

Impressive, no?

What's even scarier is that in about 4 weeks, the Wii will have outsold the PS3 in total lifetime sales (LTD) 3 to 1 (currently 2371k verses 874k, with the Wii pushing about 90k more consoles a week than the PS3). And the 360 is dead there, but we already knew that.

At this rate, it looks like it might be the weakest of the 'next-gen' consoles that'll win this console 'generation'. Again. Anybody have any guesses as to why?
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2007, 07:40:56 PM »

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At this rate, it looks like it might be the weakest of the 'next-gen' consoles that'll win this console 'generation'. Again. Anybody have any guesses as to why?

I think it is very short-sighted to even begin trying to determine which console will be the winner, we still have another 4-5 years left! If your asking for a guess as to why the Wii is doing so well, I think we've already determined that it's a fad and simply the popular consumer product right now. If you disagree, ask people who bought a Wii at launch why they don't touch it anymore and don't see too many reasons to blow the dust off any time soon. I really wish Microsoft and Sony would team up and put out a motion-sensor controller identical to the Wii's along with a cheap compilation of sports games, that might put the Wii to bed.
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2007, 09:35:04 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on May 13, 2007, 05:22:51 PM

I have to be honest - the Wii hasn't gotten much playtime in my house.  Once the initial luster wore off I felt kinda cheated again.  :/

Ditto, which is why I gave mine the boot and sold it.

I respect that Nintendo is doing well, but for me, there is literally NOTHING I feel like playing on any of their systems anymore. There are probably 25 titles I want on the 360 in 2007, 15 or so more for the PS3, and before I sold my DS and Wii, there maybe was 5....combined, that I was interested in, and that interest was just moderate.
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2007, 11:19:30 PM »

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At this rate, it looks like it might be the weakest of the 'next-gen' consoles that'll win this console 'generation'. Again. Anybody have any guesses as to why?

I think it is very short-sighted to even begin trying to determine which console will be the winner, we still have another 4-5 years left! If your asking for a guess as to why the Wii is doing so well, I think we've already determined that it's a fad and simply the popular consumer product right now. If you disagree, ask people who bought a Wii at launch why they don't touch it anymore and don't see too many reasons to blow the dust off any time soon. I really wish Microsoft and Sony would team up and put out a motion-sensor controller identical to the Wii's along with a cheap compilation of sports games, that might put the Wii to bed.

Who's determined that it's just a fad? I would imagine there are more people actively playing their Wii's then there are actively playing their PS3's.

Also, why would you want to the Wii to put to bed? How would that improve the console marketplace? Isn't competition always a good thing?
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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2007, 11:20:58 PM »

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At this rate, it looks like it might be the weakest of the 'next-gen' consoles that'll win this console 'generation'. Again. Anybody have any guesses as to why?

I think it is very short-sighted to even begin trying to determine which console will be the winner, we still have another 4-5 years left! If your asking for a guess as to why the Wii is doing so well, I think we've already determined that it's a fad and simply the popular consumer product right now. If you disagree, ask people who bought a Wii at launch why they don't touch it anymore and don't see too many reasons to blow the dust off any time soon. I really wish Microsoft and Sony would team up and put out a motion-sensor controller identical to the Wii's along with a cheap compilation of sports games, that might put the Wii to bed.
Huh? Speak for yourself. I would wager more people on this board are satisfied with the Wii than not. I believe the general consumer who has bought the system is very happy with it. Anecdotally speaking, I watched a guy at Gamestop pick one up yesterday with 4 games, only one of them a Nintendo game. Soooo.... I say we still wait till the beginning of 2008 before we say anything else. I do believe that the Wii will win in Japan, and I feel comfortable saying that now, it will take a miracle/disaster for the PS3 to make hay there.
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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2007, 01:16:57 AM »

Yep, wait a while, maybe even years to see how things turn out.  Frankly I'm not looking for a "winner" in this generation of consoles.  I'm looking for fun games and features.

A system doesn't have to "Win" to be successful and profit.  Remember that before nintendo got strong with the DS and Wii, they were still doing well with the gamecube despite it not "winning".

For example, everybody loves to bash the psp, but it's actually a financial success.  It's making money, maybe not as much as the DS, sure, but it's still making money.

Likewise, forget the PS3.  Do you realize that the PS2 is still going very strong?  In fact, it's probably the overall winner of this and the last console generation.  It's certainly not the "winner" in many people's minds, but it's still making money for sony, game sales for the PS2 are still going on strong.

My suggestion to people is stop looking for the winner, and start looking for what you like.

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« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2007, 02:57:44 AM »

Man.  People forget about the first 6-8 months of the DS's life when there weren't any good games.
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« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2007, 03:06:09 AM »

Quote from: warning on May 14, 2007, 02:57:44 AM

Man.  People forget about the first 6-8 months of the DS's life when there weren't any good games.

Or any console launch, really. If Final Fantasy doesn't push sales up for the PS3, then I think it's really doomed. Though for 600 I still won't get one even when FF13 hits.
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