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« on: October 16, 2004, 09:29:55 PM »

PIC HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN

Notice the 1-2 players thing on the back...everyone is going crazy over this on the various GTA forums right now.

Rockstar has been strong arming sites into banning anyone that posts leaked info or scans of the manual/boxart. IGN/Gamespot and GTAGaming have been banning anyone that even mentions the boxart or manual scans. Luckily, some sites are telling Rockstar to shove it and are allowing talk about it.  It's just a game Rockstar, chill.

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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2004, 09:30:57 PM »

Lemme make some phone calls....I'm not big on rampant speculation. smile
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2004, 09:42:30 PM »

Yeah, in a certain mission, you save a girl, and she becomes your girlfriend. Then in certain driveby shooting missions, she's in your ride, and one person drives, and the other shoots. That's basically it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2004, 09:44:54 PM »

Bleh was hoping for more.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2004, 10:39:12 PM »

Woah...looks like Rockstar is freaking out over these images of the box art. Looks like the cat was let out of the bag too soon...

From GTAGaming.com:

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I've been asked specifically by Rockstar to do what I can to prevent these images from spreading anywhere.

We're going to have to take the tough line on this and ban anyone who reproduces them on the forum.


IGN is also threatening bans to anyone that posts the pictures....

So is Gamespot.

Sheesh. :?
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2004, 10:43:13 PM »

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Yeah, in a certain mission, you save a girl, and she becomes your girlfriend. Then in certain driveby shooting missions, she's in your ride, and one person drives, and the other shoots. That's basically it.


If it's just that, then why is Rockstar freaking out about people finding out about it?

Something tells me there might be a co-op mode that was going to be a big secret...but the cat was let out of the bag a little too soon.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2004, 01:52:31 AM »

FINALLY.
I've been waiting to play GTA with my fiance multiplayer since I found out GTA 3 wouldn't have the multiplayer of GTA 2.

If this is true KUDOS ROCKSTAR.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2004, 02:34:42 AM »

So how long before we hafta take the pic down Ron? smile
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2004, 06:12:21 PM »

If they put 1-2 players on the back just for a couple instances of using some girl in drive bys then thats sad.  Now, co-op sounds awesome, but do you think it would work very well?
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2004, 07:24:23 PM »

Actually, I heard that it would unlock 2 person missions on the map that can be played co-op through both (shows up different from 1 person missions) and there are several under wraps 2 player minigames.

This is the kind of polished multiplayer Rockstar abandoned deathmatch in GTA3 for.  They wanted a multiplayer experience as immersive as their single player experience (Read Co-op).  It sounds like more than drivebys and that the 2 player stuff might happen throughout rather than just in specific missions, but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2004, 08:32:08 PM »

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Lemme make some phone calls....I'm not big on rampant speculation. smile


So, did you find out anything Ron? Or did the Rockstar thugs get to you as well...  :wink:
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2004, 08:42:32 PM »

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Lemme make some phone calls....I'm not big on rampant speculation. smile


So, did you find out anything Ron? Or did the Rockstar thugs get to you as well...  :wink:

Well, look at it this way - has that picture been removed or has this thread been locked? biggrin

In all honesty though... *checks mailbox*... Well, I haven't been told to pull it yet. So, enjoy your picture while it lasts. smile
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2004, 10:27:02 PM »

Heh, lets see if this gets the thread locked...  :wink:

A German magazine has leaked the whole map for San Andreas. 2/3rds of the map was revealed already, but Las Ventura is new.


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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2004, 02:02:25 AM »

Actually, that map's not completely correct.  It was ripped off the German official website and Rockstar admitted it was a placeholder map of sorts.  The official Las Venturas map will be out soon and look at least a little different I believe.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2004, 01:14:23 PM »

Regardless of the extent of 2-player gameplay in the new GTA, that copy on the box back is horribly written! Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2004, 06:56:14 PM »

Rockstar Games and Interscope Records Reveal Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Soundtrack Details

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Double CD and 8 CD Box Soundtrack Set available in November

New York, NY – October 18, 2004 - Rockstar Games, the world-renowned publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTWO), and Interscope Records, a part of Universal Music Group, proudly announce the release of a double CD soundtrack as well as an 8 CD box set soundtrack to the highly-anticipated videogame Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, the next installment in the best-selling Grand Theft Auto franchise. The double CD and box set are scheduled for release on November 23rd, 2004 in the US and November 22nd, 2004 throughout Europe.

As a bonus the official soundtrack double CD will feature a separate stand-alone DVD containing 'The Introduction', the cinematic prologue to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. ‘The Introduction’ tells the full story of the events leading up to CJs return to San Andreas. Why was he forced to come back? What is he leaving behind and what is he really walking into? This exclusive prequel is not available anywhere else and has been crafted with the highest production standards Rockstar is famous for. Look for some familiar faces making a surprise return. With the game set in the early 1990’s, the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas soundtrack will feature a large variety of tracks spanning the FM radio dial of the West Coast during this particularly influential period in American music and culture. The double CD will feature a mix of select tracks from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas’ many in-game radio stations while each album of the 8 CD box set will replicate a music station from the game featuring a broader selection of tracks ranging from contemporary west coast and classic east coast hip-hop, funk, rare groove, new jack swing and contemporary soul, alternative rock, classic rock, reggae and country.

In-game radio stations have become one of the signature aspects of the Grand Theft Auto franchise, delivering a realistic radio experience by allowing players to tune the radio station in the huge selection of vehicles in the game to any station they like, complete with hours of satirical commercials and DJ banter that cleverly parodies a wide mix of radio formats. The radio stations in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas will feature the most staggering selection of music ever assembled for a video game with over one-hundred and fifty tracks from artists including James Brown, Willie Nelson, 2 Pac, and Rage Against the Machine plus many, many more that encompass a great deal of the radio spectrum of the early 90’s The double CD also includes as a bonus track an exclusive cover of the Nine Inch Nails early 90s industrial staple “Head Like A Hole” by Northern Californian punk band AFI, who formed in 1991. The track has been recorded by AFI specifically for the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas soundtrack album and as a tribute to this unique era in music.

The complete track listing for the double CD is as follows:
CD 1
1. The Theme From San Andreas
2. Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name
3. 2 Pac - I Don't Give A Fuck
4. James Brown - The Payback
5. Ronnie Hudson - West Coast Poplock
6. Guy - Groove Me
7. Eddie Money - Two Tickets To Paradise
8. Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill A Man
9. The Maytals - Pressure Drop
10. Slick Rick - Children's Story
11. Rick James - Cold Blooded
12. Raze - Break 4 Love

CD 2
1. Ohio Players - Funky Worm
2. Heart - Barracuda
3. Compton's Most Wanted - Hood Took Me Under
4. Lyn Collins - Think About It
5. Public Enemy - Rebel Without A Pause
6. Faith No More - Midlife Crisis
7. Bell Biv Devoe - Poison
8. Max Romeo & The Upsetters - Chase The Devil
9. Eric B & Rakim - I Know You Got Soul
10. Willie Nelson - Crazy

Bonus Track:
11. AFI - Head Like A Hole
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2004, 07:59:57 PM »

The game has 150 different songs? That's ridicurous!
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2004, 08:52:45 PM »

Yeah, I hope the other 127 songs are better than the 23 that are on that 2CD set...  :?
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2004, 09:54:51 PM »

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Yeah, I hope the other 127 songs are better than the 23 that are on that 2CD set...


No accounting for taste.   :lol:
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2004, 11:47:21 PM »

:lol:

Yeah, well I like a couple of the songs, but most are songs I have never heard of before. I am hoping that the full soundtrack has a few more popular songs on it and not just "easy/cheap to license" throwaways.

Anyway, someone on the IGN boards has the manual and put up a couple pics of it, before the whole topic was deleted over on their forums... :\
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2004, 01:50:15 AM »

I'm willing to give Rockstar the benefit of the doubt considering the excellent job they did on the Vice City soundtrack.

I know the RATM, Eddie Money, Slick Rick, PE, Heart, FNM, BBD, and Willie Nelson tunes.  I'm pretty sure the 2pac song is the song Mike Bolton is listening to during the commute in Office Space.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2004, 02:28:37 AM »

If I recall the scene in Office Space correctly, the song Michael Bolton is listening to is "No Tears" by Scarface.

Don't ask why I know this. :twisted:
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2004, 02:42:33 AM »

One cool feature I read about was that the music quality varies depending on teh quality of the car itself (more bass, etc).
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2004, 12:08:55 PM »

More leaked info from the manual scans that were posted last night. Full Track Lists for 2 of the Stations:

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CSR - 103:2
Contemporary Soul Radio

SWV - I'm so into you
Soul II Soul - Keep on Movin
Samuelle - So You Like What You See
En Vogue - My Lovin' (Never Gonna Get It)
Johnny Gill - Rub you the right way
Ralph Tresvant - Sensitivity
Guy - Groove Me
Aaron Hall - Don't Be Afraid
Boyz II Men - Motownphilly
Bell Biv Devoe - Poison
Today - I got the feelin'
Wreckx-N-Effect - New Jack Swing
Bobby Brown - Don't Be Cruel


Playback Classic Hip-Hop

DJ Forth Right MC- (Chuck D)

- Kool G. Rap & DJ Polo - Road To The Riches
- Big Daddy Kane - Warm It Up Kane
- Spoonie Gee - The Godfather
- Masta Ace - Me & The Biz
- Slick Rick - Children's Story
- Public Enemy - Rebel Without a Pause
- Eric B. & Rakim - I Know you got Soul
- Rob Base & DJ EZ Rock - It Takes Two
- Gang Starr - B.Y.S
- Biz Markie - The Vapors
- Brand Nubian - Brand Nubian
- Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2004, 01:11:05 PM »

So I assume Rockstar demanded that the pic be taken down? Or did the link of the pic just get removed?
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2004, 01:29:49 PM »

I don't know what happened to the pic. Rockstar probabily had it removed from whoever was hosting it, cause it was a big red X this morning.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2004, 04:34:10 PM »

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I don't know what happened to the pic. Rockstar probabily had it removed from whoever was hosting it, cause it was a big red X this morning.

I was wondering, as to my knowledge, we here at CG didn't do anything to it.

I did save it though. Maybe if you ask real nice, I can boost it onto my local Cox account... biggrin
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2004, 05:42:56 PM »

I got the pic saved, if anyone really wants to see it.
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2004, 06:00:07 PM »

Mmm, pre-ordered and was told I can pick this up Monday evening.  W00t!
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2004, 09:33:51 PM »

Here is more of what IGN is banning people for, the whole music list for the game...
Master Sounds 98.3

Charles Wright - Express Yourself
Maceo And The Macks - Cross The Tracks (We Better Go Back)
Harlem Underground Band - Smokin' Cheeba Cheeba
The Chakachas - Jungle Fever
Bob James - Nautilus
Booker T And The MGs - Green Onions
The Blackbyrds - Rock Creek Park
Bobby Byrd - Hot Pants
Bobby Byrd - I Know You Got Soul
James Brown - Funky President
James Brown - The Payback
Lyn Collins - Think About It
Lyn Collins - Rock Me Again And Again
Maceo And The Macks - Soul Power 74
The JBs - Grunt
War - Low Rider
Gloria Jones - Tainted Love
Sir Joe Quarterman - So Much Trouble In My Mind

K-DST

Foghat - Slow Ride
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Green River
Heart - Barracuda
Kiss - Strutter
Toto - Hold The Line
Rod Stewart - Young Turks
Tom Petty - Running Down A Dream
Joe Cocker - Woman To Woman
Humble Pie - Get Down To It
Grand Funk Railroad - Some Kind Of Wonderful
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird
America - A Horse With No Name
The Who - Experience Front
Boston - Smokin'
David Bowie - Someone Up There Likes Me
Eddie Money - Two Tickets To Paradise
Billy Idol - White Wedding

Bounce FM

Zapp - I Can Make You Dance
Kool And The Gang - Hollywood Swinging
Ohio Players - Love Rollercoaster
Rick James - Cold Blooded
Maze - Twilight
Fat Back - Yum Yum
Isley Brothers - Between The Sheets
Ronnie Hudson - West Coast Poplock
Lakeside - Fantastic Voyage
George Clinton - Loopzilla
Dazz Band - Let It Whip
Cameo - Candy
Ohio Players - Funky Worm
MFSB - Love Is The Message
Johnny Harris - Odyssey
Roy Ayers - Running Away
The Gap Band - You Dropped A Bomb On Me

K-ROSE

Jerry Reed - Amos Moses
Conway Twitty And Lorretta Lynn - Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man
Hank Williams - Hey Good Lookin'
Juice Newton - Queen Of Hearts
Asleep At The Wheel - The Letter That Johnny Walker Read
The Desert Rose Band - One Step Forward
Willie Nelson - Crazy
Patsy Cline - Three Cigarettes In The Ashtray
Mickey Gilley - Make The World Go Away
Ed Bruce - Mamma Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be Cowboys
Merle Haggard - Always Wanting You
Whitey Shafer - All My Exes Live In Texas
Eddie Rabbit - I Love A Rainy Night
Statler Brothers - New York City
Statler Brothers - Bed Of Roses

SF-UR
Jomanda - Make My Body Rock
808 State - Pacific
The Todd Terry Project - Weekend
NightWriters - Let The Music Use You
Marshall Jefferson - Move Your Body
Maurice - This Is Acid
Mr Fingers - Can You Feel It?
A Guy Called Gerald - Voodoo Ray
Cultural Vibe - Ma Foom Bey
Ce Ce Rogers - Someday
Robert Owens - I'll Be Your Friend
Frankie Knuckles - Your Love
Joe Smooth - Promised Land
28th Street Crew - I Need A Rhythm
Raze - Break 4 Love
Fallout - The Morning After

Radio Los Santos

Too Short - The Ghetto
2 Pac - I Don't Give A F**k
Compton's Most Wanted - Hood Took Me Under
Dr Dre - Nuthin' But A G Thang
Dr Dre - F**k Wit Dre Day
Dr Dre - Deep Cover
Kid Frost - La Raza
Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill A Man
The Doc - It's Funky Enough
NWA - Alwayz Into Something
NWA - Express Yourself
Ice Cube - It Was A Good Day
Ice Cube - Check Yo Self
Easy E - Easy-Er Said Than Done
Above The Law - Murder Rap
Da Lench Mob - Guerrillas In Tha Mist


RADIO:X - The Alternative

Helmet - Unsung
Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus
Faith No More - Midlife Crisis
Danzig - Mother
Living Colour - Cult Of Personality
Primal Scream - Movin' On Up
Guns N' Roses - Welcome To The Jungle
L7 - Pretend We're Dead
Ozzy Ozbourne - Hellraiser
Soundgarden - Rusty Cage
Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name
Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing
The Stone Roses - Fool's Gold
Alice In Chains - Them Bones
Stone Temple Pilots - Plush

K-Jah Radio West

Black Harmony - Don't Let It Go To Your Head
Blood Sisters - Ring My Bell
Shabba Ranks - Wicked Inna Bed
Buju Banton - Batty Rider
Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
Dennis Brown - Revolution
Willie William - Armagideon Time
I Roy - Sidewalk Killer
Toots And The Maytals - Funky Kingston
Dillinger - Cocaine In My Brain
The Maytals - Pressure Drop
The Pliars - Bam Bam
Barrington Levy - Here I Come
Reggie Stepper - Drum Pan Sound
Black Uhuru - Great Train Robbery
Max Romeo And The Upsetters - Chase The Devil
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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2004, 09:41:30 PM »

My opinion, some of the songs look good....but there are tons that were left out that would have been much better.

I mean, they have NWA, but why in the world do they have Express Yourself and Always Into Something....when they could have used F*ck the Police or 100 Miles and Runnin, I mean those songs were SCREAMING to be in this game!!   :?
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2004, 09:42:55 PM »

And just what is ozzy doing on the alternative channel?
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2004, 09:47:13 PM »

Good question.

Also where is Nine Inch Nails?? I mean they have a freaking cover version of Head Like A Hole on the CD, but not the original song in the game?

*sigh*

At least it has Freebird!  biggrin
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2004, 02:17:54 AM »

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Eminence Front

I think the Alt station looks terrific, not a song on there I don't like.  And to answer Rob's question, I can clearly remember hearing Ozzy on the alt-rock station in the early nineties.  The funk station should be great too.

The rap station should be good too, though I don't know why they didn't have any PE on there since Chuck D is the DJ.

Call me a fanboy, I think it will be great.
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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2004, 02:20:33 AM »

The only time I ever heard Ozzy on an Alternative station when the DJ was feeling goofy and played staying alive.
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2004, 02:25:53 AM »

Well, different markets I guess.  No More Tears was got regular play on the local Alt station (alt being defined as alternative/grunge).  Of course Metallica got play too.
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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2004, 02:26:25 AM »

BTW - Rockstar now has opened up the third map segment, and Gamespot has the new trailer.
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2004, 02:34:06 AM »

The only thing I can think why they are having a fit, is that they don't want it announced because maybe they are having problems with co-op mode, and if they can't get it fixed, they would just pull it and nobody would know the difference.  Now that the picture is out,  and people know of a co-op mode being in exisitence, there will be an outcry if they cut it.
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2004, 02:40:25 AM »

I think that's unlikely, the game ships in less than a week.  No way they could get new packaging redesigned, printed, and in the factory for  processing in time.

The simple explanation is that it's Rockstar's intellectual property and they didn't want unauthorized use of it on the web before they chose to have it on the web.  Anyway, that's my take.
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2004, 03:41:22 AM »

O M G

Parachutes. Story. Immense world to explore. Possible Co-Op action. No monthly fee.

This game can't be beat.
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