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« on: March 12, 2005, 05:38:26 AM »

So I'm getting some weird behavior when trying to run GT4 in 1080i mode.  When I go to the options menu and change it to 1080i, the screen will switch over to 1080i while the 'Accept new settings/Cancel' dialouge box is open.  However, once I accept it switches back to 480i.  

If I start a race it will switch back into 1080i, but as soon as I got back to a menu screen it goes back to 480i again.

Is this behavior normal?  I know I've seen screenshots of the menus in 1080i, and honest seeing the photo mode in 1080i is one of the things I was looking forward to the most.  I've tried it in 480p as well, but I get the exact same results as 1080i.

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2005, 06:13:54 AM »

I had the same thing, but I'm not certain that the races were running in 1080i.  If they were, there were still an awful lot of jaggies going on.  From all the "OMG!!! the graphics in 1080i are better than real life!" I was expecting something special.  They were nice, but still awfully jaggy.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2005, 06:18:52 PM »

The only thing I can think of is that the game isn't outputting a 1080i signal all the time. It's doing so during the races, but not the menu screens, for reasons unknown.

It's like KotOR on the Xbox and my surround sound system - during loading scenes, the game would stop outputting a surround signal, so my system would automagically reset itself to stereo output. Then, when the game fired back up again, it would reset itself to surround.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2005, 06:32:21 PM »

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I had the same thing, but I'm not certain that the races were running in 1080i.  If they were, there were still an awful lot of jaggies going on.  From all the "OMG!!! the graphics in 1080i are better than real life!" I was expecting something special.  They were nice, but still awfully jaggy.


Glad I am not the only one that thinks this.  I just do not see the special graphics this thing is supposed to have in 1080i mode
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 06:32:34 PM »

The game doesn't output 1080 in the menus, and it messes my friends tv up all sorts of bad...
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2005, 10:46:48 PM »

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I had the same thing, but I'm not certain that the races were running in 1080i.  If they were, there were still an awful lot of jaggies going on.  From all the "OMG!!! the graphics in 1080i are better than real life!" I was expecting something special.  They were nice, but still awfully jaggy.


Glad I am not the only one that thinks this.  I just do not see the special graphics this thing is supposed to have in 1080i mode


The 1080i graphics aren't so much jaggy as they are low textured.  I'm pretty impressed, especially considering that it's coming out of a PS2, but you can definitely tell the textures aren't as nice as the XBox can put out.

BTW... only the gameplay is in 1080i.  The menus are something else.

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 05:03:14 PM »

GT4 doesn't use "true" 1080i, apparently.  It's a 1080i signal, but it's not being rendered at a full 1920x1080 (similar to Enter the Matrix on the Xbox)
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 06:30:30 PM »

Side HDTV note: MVP 2005 looks great in 720p (picked it up last night) smile smile
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2005, 09:39:09 PM »

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Side HDTV note: MVP 2005 looks great in 720p (picked it up last night) smile smile


 Pardon me for this but...No freaking shit!!! That game looks amazing on my TV in 720p. A great looking,  and fun playing(solo or on Live!) baseball game. I haven`t really played a baseball game in years. Triple play 99 and 2000 on ps1, wow...it`s been a while! Then a little of triple play 2000 or 2001 maybe on PC. So I`m just going apeshit over this stuff. This game is awesome!

 And as far as 1080i on gt4. I`ve heard it looks better on 480p, because the 1080i is pretty ugly. Just thought I`d chime in :wink: .
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2005, 12:12:44 AM »

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Side HDTV note: MVP 2005 looks great in 720p (picked it up last night) smile smile


 Pardon me for this but...No freaking shit!!! That game looks amazing on my TV in 720p. A great looking,  and fun playing(solo or on Live!) baseball game. I haven`t really played a baseball game in years. Triple play 99 and 2000 on ps1, wow...it`s been a while! Then a little of triple play 2000 or 2001 maybe on PC. So I`m just going apeshit over this stuff. This game is awesome!

 And as far as 1080i on gt4. I`ve heard it looks better on 480p, because the 1080i is pretty ugly. Just thought I`d chime in :wink: .


1)  MVP 2005 looks amazing.  May well be the best looking game I've played on the console.

2)  1080i GT4 >>>>> 480p GT4.  480p GT4 sucks.

Also of note is that the game does NOT save your resolution settings on your memory card.  You have to manually change it to 1080i everytime you start the game.

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 05:29:08 AM »

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1)  MVP 2005 looks amazing.  May well be the best looking game I've played on the console.

2)  1080i GT4 >>>>> 480p GT4.  480p GT4 sucks.

Also of note is that the game does NOT save your resolution settings on your memory card.  You have to manually change it to 1080i everytime you start the game.

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1) Go play Freedom Forces :-)  But yeah, other than that I'd be hard pressed to think of a better looking game in 720p.  The graphical improvements over MVP2004 are minimal, but the slight 'depth of field' they added for the pitcher/batter interface looks great!  That said, some of the graphics got worse - most noticably the crowd, which is using the same ultra low poly models they did last year for the closeups, but the portion of the crowd that are sprites now face the camera whereever it is positioned (rather than having a different sprite for their backs) - which makes for some very odd looking cutscenes sometimes...
Pretty minor complaints though... and the 720p *menus* look great too (did you hear that Polyphony?)

2) Both 480p and 1080i are disappointing.  The 480i menus exist even when in 480p mode!  I would kill to be able to use photo mode in 1080i...
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2005, 04:51:33 PM »

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1) Go play Freedom Forces :-)  But yeah, other than that I'd be hard pressed to think of a better looking game in 720p.  The graphical improvements over MVP2004 are minimal, but the slight 'depth of field' they added for the pitcher/batter interface looks great!  That said, some of the graphics got worse - most noticably the crowd, which is using the same ultra low poly models they did last year for the closeups, but the portion of the crowd that are sprites now face the camera whereever it is positioned (rather than having a different sprite for their backs) - which makes for some very odd looking cutscenes sometimes...
Pretty minor complaints though... and the 720p *menus* look great too (did you hear that Polyphony?)

2) Both 480p and 1080i are disappointing.  The 480i menus exist even when in 480p mode!  I would kill to be able to use photo mode in 1080i...


1) X-Men Legends was also damned impressive looking.

2) I'm not disappointed cause I thought the game would look like royal ass until a few days before release.  I was more than happy with assy graphics + great gameplay.  Now I get semi-good graphics + great gameplay.  It's awesome biggrin

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2005, 05:05:24 PM »

I just rented GT4 last night... 1080i mode is definitely better than anything the PS2 has shown me to date, but it's still pretty jaggy all things considered.  It's definitely using a half-res mode or something along those lines.
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