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« Reply #480 on: September 10, 2013, 08:35:58 PM »

The later incarnations of the GTA series are filled to the brim with things to do. That's not unusual today, with companies like Ubisoft hardly even releasing games if there's not a million different collectibles in them to increase longevity. The difference is that just about every bit of content in GTA games is meaningful and personalized. There's just a ton of stuff to do in a game world that almost feels real and a story that is always very well acted and very well told. The game has many different types of gameplay, so if you grow tired of driving around aimlessly, you can race, shoot, go play a bunch of surprisingly deep minigames, visit a bunch of locales with their own activities, do stunts, do all kinds of side missions, or even just sit down in a couch and watch your character watch TV. Tongue

The GTA games define open world. Other games may be open world too, but nobody does it anywhere close to the level that the GTA games do.
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« Reply #481 on: September 10, 2013, 08:39:19 PM »

Yeah I played Vice City. I liked it, just felt like the controls were too loose IIRC. I loved Crackdown though.
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« Reply #482 on: September 10, 2013, 08:51:48 PM »

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Yeah I played Vice City. I liked it, just felt like the controls were too loose IIRC. I loved Crackdown though.

Both on-foot controls (always a weak point in the series) and car controls are supposed to be improved in this.  The combat is supposed to draw from cover mechanics they used in Red Dead Redemption, and the cars should "handle better than they did in Grand Theft Auto IV, as [Houser] felt that they were "big and boatlike in GTA IV" whereas in Grand Theft Auto V the cars handle similarly to those in racing games."
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« Reply #483 on: September 10, 2013, 09:20:12 PM »

Again the map is in spoilers

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« Reply #484 on: September 10, 2013, 09:23:07 PM »

also, a lot has changed since VC.  controls are one big part of that.  the world building is also a huge improvement, such that in the new game, you can sit and watch your friends in MP via an in-game version of Cops on your television in your own house. 
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« Reply #485 on: September 10, 2013, 09:24:00 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on September 10, 2013, 08:51:48 PM

Quote from: Lee on September 10, 2013, 08:39:19 PM

Yeah I played Vice City. I liked it, just felt like the controls were too loose IIRC. I loved Crackdown though.

Both on-foot controls (always a weak point in the series) and car controls are supposed to be improved in this.  The combat is supposed to draw from cover mechanics they used in Red Dead Redemption, and the cars should "handle better than they did in Grand Theft Auto IV, as [Houser] felt that they were "big and boatlike in GTA IV" whereas in Grand Theft Auto V the cars handle similarly to those in racing games."

bah, on foot is for pussies.
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« Reply #486 on: September 10, 2013, 09:25:27 PM »

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also, a lot has changed since VC. 

but the soundtrack will never be as good slywink
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« Reply #487 on: September 10, 2013, 09:29:27 PM »

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« Reply #488 on: September 10, 2013, 09:33:02 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on September 10, 2013, 08:35:58 PM

The GTA games define open world. Other games may be open world too, but nobody does it anywhere close to the level that the GTA games do.

I would argue that depending on what you are judging plenty of games do open world as well or better than GTA.
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« Reply #489 on: September 10, 2013, 09:33:14 PM »

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« Reply #490 on: September 10, 2013, 09:35:39 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 10, 2013, 09:25:27 PM

Quote from: Caine on September 10, 2013, 09:23:07 PM

also, a lot has changed since VC. 

but the soundtrack will never be as good slywink

hard to argue there.  nothing like running around listening to Fernando "I'm Latin" Martinez.
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« Reply #491 on: September 10, 2013, 11:51:54 PM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on September 10, 2013, 09:33:02 PM

Quote from: TiLT on September 10, 2013, 08:35:58 PM

The GTA games define open world. Other games may be open world too, but nobody does it anywhere close to the level that the GTA games do.

I would argue that depending on what you are judging plenty of games do open world as well or better than GTA.

Definitely.  I really don't get the love for GTA.  I think the only one I could actually stand to finish was Vice City.  I had hopes for 4, where it seemed like maybe they were going to make a character you could empathize with, kind of like the dude in Breaking Bad.  They failed and I refuse to give the series another shot.  Now Red Dead Redemption?  That's Rockstar doing things right.
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« Reply #492 on: September 11, 2013, 12:23:19 AM »

To me the appeal of GTA is the ability to not have to follow the story, to be able to wander off and discover new places and scenes. And to have a variety of things to do, not just the same thing over and over with slight variations, but very different experiences.
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« Reply #493 on: September 11, 2013, 01:58:33 AM »

Quote from: The Grue on September 10, 2013, 11:51:54 PM

Now Red Dead Redemption?  That's Rockstar doing things right.
Except that whole abandonment of the PC platform thing.
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« Reply #494 on: September 11, 2013, 02:31:39 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 11, 2013, 01:58:33 AM

Quote from: The Grue on September 10, 2013, 11:51:54 PM

Now Red Dead Redemption?  That's Rockstar doing things right.
Except that whole abandonment of the PC platform thing.
Meh.  After the abomination that was GTA4 on PC, I am not sure I trust them to do it right.
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« Reply #495 on: September 11, 2013, 02:35:34 AM »

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Quote from: TiLT on September 10, 2013, 08:35:58 PM

The GTA games define open world. Other games may be open world too, but nobody does it anywhere close to the level that the GTA games do.

I would argue that depending on what you are judging plenty of games do open world as well or better than GTA.

Just Cause 2 was a better "open world" than GTA IV, IMO. Not that JC2 didn't have its issues, but the world itself felt big and varied - and being the Scorpion was far more fun than "Cousin". God, I hated that cell phone of his.
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« Reply #496 on: September 11, 2013, 02:35:48 AM »

Quote from: The Grue on September 11, 2013, 02:31:39 AM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 11, 2013, 01:58:33 AM

Quote from: The Grue on September 10, 2013, 11:51:54 PM

Now Red Dead Redemption?  That's Rockstar doing things right.
Except that whole abandonment of the PC platform thing.
Meh.  After the abomination that was GTA4 on PC, I am not sure I trust them to do it right.
 

one they released the first patch GTA 4 wasn't that bad if you had the PC to run it and weren't some poor schmuck with a C64

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« Reply #497 on: September 11, 2013, 07:05:44 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 10, 2013, 07:39:16 PM

Quote from: Caine on September 10, 2013, 06:18:59 PM

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Nice.  looking forward to tooling around in an old beat up pickup in the badlands.

I'm looking forward to beating up an old whore I pickup in the badlands.

you are the guy all those tv news anchors warn us about.  you shouldn't waste whores like that.  wait until you've lost a bit of health first biggrin

gotta get the money back somehow biggrin


Maybe you should start singing it on a street corner slywink Here's a penny for your trouble.

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Quote from: Caine on September 10, 2013, 09:23:07 PM

also, a lot has changed since VC.  controls are one big part of that.  the world building is also a huge improvement, such that in the new game, you can sit and watch your friends in MP via an in-game version of Cops on your television in your own house. 

Yeah, tried playing VC recently, and I just couldn't get into it. The controls have definitely improved since, especially when playing on a PC. No mouselook in VC while driving as it's San Andreas that introduced that to the series, and it's hard going back, to be honest. Feels clunky compared to the advancements that have been made recently.
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« Reply #498 on: September 11, 2013, 07:22:12 AM »

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Quote from: EngineNo9 on September 10, 2013, 09:33:02 PM

Quote from: TiLT on September 10, 2013, 08:35:58 PM

The GTA games define open world. Other games may be open world too, but nobody does it anywhere close to the level that the GTA games do.

I would argue that depending on what you are judging plenty of games do open world as well or better than GTA.

Just Cause 2 was a better "open world" than GTA IV, IMO. Not that JC2 didn't have its issues, but the world itself felt big and varied - and being the Scorpion was far more fun than "Cousin". God, I hated that cell phone of his.

Well, when I say open world, I mean an actual open world. Just Cause 2, for all its greatness, doesn't have a world that feels lived in or real. It's just a playground with things you can shoot and blow up, but not much else. The GTA games, particularly the newer ones, present cities that are more than movie sets. There's not really any other open world games I can think of that even try to do this.
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« Reply #499 on: September 11, 2013, 08:53:27 AM »

Warning,once you see the GTA5 map in this spoiler,you can't unsee it

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« Reply #500 on: September 11, 2013, 09:05:58 AM »

if you click on this link to see the map,click on the picture and then click on it again to magnify it,you can see that there are quite a lot of settlements out in the countryside

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/10/is-this-the-official-gta-5-map-3957372/

EDIT: actually it would be easier just to click on this
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/gta-v-map.jpg
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« Reply #501 on: September 11, 2013, 11:23:53 AM »

Quote from: Rumpy on September 11, 2013, 07:05:44 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on September 10, 2013, 07:39:16 PM

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Quote from: CeeKay on September 10, 2013, 05:51:49 PM

Quote from: Caine on September 10, 2013, 04:48:03 PM

Nice.  looking forward to tooling around in an old beat up pickup in the badlands.

I'm looking forward to beating up an old whore I pickup in the badlands.

you are the guy all those tv news anchors warn us about.  you shouldn't waste whores like that.  wait until you've lost a bit of health first biggrin

gotta get the money back somehow biggrin


Maybe you should start singing it on a street corner slywink Here's a penny for your trouble.

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« Reply #502 on: September 11, 2013, 11:24:17 AM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on September 11, 2013, 09:05:58 AM

if you click on this link to see the map,click on the picture and then click on it again to magnify it,you can see that there are quite a lot of settlements out in the countryside

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/10/is-this-the-official-gta-5-map-3957372/

EDIT: actually it would be easier just to click on this
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/gta-v-map.jpg

yay, more maps!
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« Reply #503 on: September 11, 2013, 11:25:30 AM »

here's a site that had a video of the map, but Rockstar took down the video.  bastards.

here's a replacement one, but not as good.
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« Reply #504 on: September 11, 2013, 11:31:16 AM »

run your own marijuana shop?

I bet R* is annoyed their map got leaked early, don't think I've ever seen a map get so much news.

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« Reply #505 on: September 11, 2013, 06:46:09 PM »

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/428953/gta-online-details-character-creation-activities-and-more/


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-Character progression has a "flow" but there isn't an "overarching narrative that culminates in a definitive conclusion"

-The aim of GTA Online is to do whatever it takes to get more money in the bank and accrue assets such as cars and real estate

-Characters appear in cutscenes when interacting with other characters in the world as they would in the single-player but doesn't speak

-Female characters can be used in GTA Online

-Almost all activities from the campaign are available in GTA online: "heists, missions, robberies, assaulting gang hideouts, hijacking armored vehicles, races" as well as "tennis, golf and base jumping"

-According to Rockstar North president Leslie Benzies threre's over 500 missions. Some can be completed solo, but others are complicated and require a team.

-GTA Online takes place after the main story, familiar faces will make appearances
By currying favour of characters you can be introduced to more people and delve deeper into the criminal world

-Franklin's friend Lamar may introduce you to a car dealer named Simeon Yetarian, who wants you to steal cars for him

-Biker gangs my support you during missions if you're friendly with them

-A tech-savvy character you've befriended may hide you on the radar during multiplayer

-Security firms that have taken a liking to you may be used to deliver airstrikes

-Rockstar uses a "dynamic" system to populate GTA Online, starting with your friends and crew members, then similarly skilled players in the same part of the world.

-GTA Online has been created to be "as customisable as possible" in terms of who you play with: "there are options to let the game decide who to play with... or you can hand pick every player in the game".

-The game analyses your playing style as you play and surfaces missions that appeal more to your style.

-There's a crew ranking system and a personal rank

-The fourth GTA Online player is fresh off a plane in Los Santos, character creation involves choosing your mum, dad and grandparents and you're given a character. Then players then choose a lifestyle, make choices about the things the character does (partying, couch potato, criminal, athletics nut).

-Starting skills are based on the chosen lifestyles, but can be upgraded, as can the look of the character

-Players riding shotgun in cars can also control radio station, set waypoints, use a cinematic camera, or attack others

-Holding the select button (on a PS3) pulls up a menu where outfits and gestures can be changed

-Phone camera's can be used to take a selfie

-During a liquor store robbery the player can shout at the cashier to hurry up through a mic and the character will respond

-Escaping cops involves keeping yourself out of the police's vision cone

-After each GTA Online mission cash rewards and Reputation Points are awarded. The crew leader decides who keeps the loot.

-A leader can choose to hog the spoils but, obviously, other players might not take that very well

-Invites are received through the character's phone and accepting seamlessly transports the player to the activity

-Players can customise the way a vehicle handles at shops found around the city

-In missions involving bigger teams a lobby window opens up. From this the roles such as sniper, look-out and transporter can be assigned. The crew leader can tweak settings such as time of day, weather, difficulty and how many lives they have to complete the mission.

-Everyone is given priorities suited to their role when missions begin

-When you have enough cash to purchase a "high end residency" you gain the ability to set up heists like the ones in the solo campaign.

-These missions involve multiple phases, including a set-up phase. In the mission shown prep involved buying guns from Ammu-Nation and procuring a helicopter. The tasks can be split between players.

-Passive mode can be activated if you want to enjoy Online without being troubled by other players, this is automatically deactivated when you fire your gun however.

-Players can kill you and take your cash, so you are encouraged to put money in the bank and use ATMs.

-Purchases can still be made using the money even if it's in the bank
If you are robbed, you can put a bounty on a players head for revenge

-Each house you pruchase has space for storing cars. Modest appartments have space for two, but high-end homes can store ten.

-Garage areas can be treated like showrooms. You can walk around and admire your cars and hire a mechanic to keep them in good condition. You can also insure them to avoid big payouts should you damage them badly.

-You can invite friends to your home and drink, call strippers, watch Rockstar's custom created TV shows (or your friends in high-speed chases).

-Missions are controlled through Rockstar's Social Club, which means the developer tweak them regularly.
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« Reply #506 on: September 11, 2013, 06:48:55 PM »

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« Reply #507 on: September 11, 2013, 07:52:18 PM »

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« Reply #508 on: September 11, 2013, 07:59:50 PM »

I wonder if they will keep track of how mny people get shot in the face for touching the radio...
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I wonder if they will keep track of how mny people get shot in the face for touching the radio...
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« Reply #510 on: September 11, 2013, 08:29:56 PM »



I definitely want to play mp with you guys on this.   My fear is this:   I have one of the white, old Xbox 360s.   I really really don't want to get into this game and then have my 360 go belly up on me at long last.

I suppose I could just sell the game if that happens and buy it for my PS3.... but anyway...   sounds like the mp component is going to be out of this world and that I need to hop on with my 360 friends to experience it.
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« Reply #511 on: September 12, 2013, 07:59:28 AM »

Rockstar have thought of everything!!

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« Reply #512 on: September 12, 2013, 08:01:15 AM »

LOL!
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« Reply #513 on: September 12, 2013, 08:07:40 AM »

Hmm

http://www.oxm.co.uk/62151/gta-5-xbox-one-boxart-appears-on-amazon-germany/
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« Reply #514 on: September 12, 2013, 08:08:22 AM »

well you knew it was coming.
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« Reply #515 on: September 12, 2013, 08:20:42 AM »

Looks like they're following a very deliberate strategy to make people double dip. It's kind of sleazy to be honest.
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« Reply #516 on: September 12, 2013, 10:26:09 AM »

Why do you have to double dip? Buy it for the system you want. There's a lot of people with current gen systems who don't plan on upgrading soon and there's a bunch of people who want to experience it in even higher def glory!
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« Reply #517 on: September 12, 2013, 11:07:05 AM »

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« Reply #518 on: September 12, 2013, 11:09:31 AM »

Quote from: TiLT on September 12, 2013, 08:20:42 AM

Looks like they're following a very deliberate strategy to make people double dip. It's kind of sleazy to be honest.

Maybe Sony and MS will offer a discount towards digital copies if you brought for last gen system.   I think I read MS is offering this type of deal somewhere, but it could be wishful thinking on my part
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Quote from: Soulchilde on September 12, 2013, 11:09:31 AM

Quote from: TiLT on September 12, 2013, 08:20:42 AM

Looks like they're following a very deliberate strategy to make people double dip. It's kind of sleazy to be honest.

Maybe Sony and MS will offer a discount towards digital copies if you brought for last gen system.   I think I read MS is offering this type of deal somewhere, but it could be wishful thinking on my part

I know that if you buy COD Ghosts for 360 you get some kind of discount if you pick up the Xbox1 version,and also Final Fantasy 14 if you have the PS3 version you get the PS4 version for free

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