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Dante Rising
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« on: June 08, 2015, 10:25:17 PM »

With the announcement of Fallout 4 I decided to FINALLY play Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Unfortunately, Fallout 3 crashes randomly every 30-60 minutes, mostly when loading new rooms or areas. Although not game breaking, I can't seem to enjoy the game because I'm always anticipating a system lockup. This lingering sense of frustration keeps me from becoming immersed in the game. I have a very minimal set of mods installed, and those are only texture upgrades. The community patches are installed. So I'm assuming it doesn't play well with Windows 8.

Can I skip it and move on to New Vegas? Or will I lose out on alot of the mythology? Very frustrating as it is a spectacular game.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 10:40:16 PM »

Quote from: Dante Rising on June 08, 2015, 10:25:17 PM

With the announcement of Fallout 4 I decided to FINALLY play Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Unfortunately, Fallout 3 crashes randomly every 30-60 minutes, mostly when loading new rooms or areas. Although not game breaking, I can't seem to enjoy the game because I'm always anticipating a system lockup. This lingering sense of frustration keeps me from becoming immersed in the game. I have a very minimal set of mods installed, and those are only texture upgrades. The community patches are installed. So I'm assuming it doesn't play well with Windows 8.


It is more likely that Fallout 3 doesn't play well with your multicore processor.  Here's the fix that worked for me when I encountered identical symptoms:

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Open up the fallout.ini file in: My Documents\My Games\Fallout3
Find the line:

bUseThreadedAI=0

change it to:

bUseThreadedAI=1

Add another line after it and insert:

iNumHWThreads=2

This will limit the game to 2 cores and prevent the engine bug from causing the game to freeze.

*If the game still crashes write this iNumHWThreads=1


I went on to play 107 hours without having another crash.  What a shame the screenshots of my completed bobblehead collection and cool power armor didn't survive the last forum migration. 

Anyway, I hope the fix works for you as well!

-Autistic Angel
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 10:40:58 PM »

I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot but you do not miss much by playing New Vegas.  Pretty much stand alone.  In Fallout 3 you learn what the Enclave is from the old Fallout games.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 03:46:13 AM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on June 08, 2015, 10:40:16 PM

Quote from: Dante Rising on June 08, 2015, 10:25:17 PM

With the announcement of Fallout 4 I decided to FINALLY play Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Unfortunately, Fallout 3 crashes randomly every 30-60 minutes, mostly when loading new rooms or areas. Although not game breaking, I can't seem to enjoy the game because I'm always anticipating a system lockup. This lingering sense of frustration keeps me from becoming immersed in the game. I have a very minimal set of mods installed, and those are only texture upgrades. The community patches are installed. So I'm assuming it doesn't play well with Windows 8.


It is more likely that Fallout 3 doesn't play well with your multicore processor.  Here's the fix that worked for me when I encountered identical symptoms:

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Open up the fallout.ini file in: My Documents\My Games\Fallout3
Find the line:

bUseThreadedAI=0

change it to:

bUseThreadedAI=1

Add another line after it and insert:

iNumHWThreads=2

This will limit the game to 2 cores and prevent the engine bug from causing the game to freeze.

*If the game still crashes write this iNumHWThreads=1


I went on to play 107 hours without having another crash.  What a shame the screenshots of my completed bobblehead collection and cool power armor didn't survive the last forum migration.  

Anyway, I hope the fix works for you as well!

-Autistic Angel

I'll check that out. Thank you.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 05:42:59 AM »

Yet another sign of how old these games are now.

And a sign of how good FO4 might be with the new tech standards. Multi-core processing won't always make something look prettier, but it sure as hell allows for more complex gameplay if handled correctly.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 01:32:04 PM »

If you're only going to play one (and giving how long they are, that's probably not unlikely), I would go with New Vegas. It builds upon pretty much every aspect of Fallout 3, getting rid of some annoying aspects (a lot of the scaling issues, for instance) and has a better story with better choices.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 06:01:09 PM »

Fallout 3 kind of made up its own mythology separate from the original Fallout games.  New Vegas is more faithful to the original Fallouts, has a better story and all around better writing and quest. 

Some people claim that Fallout 3 has more interesting locals to explore but I thought they felt more like set pieces than a lived in world. 

If you really love the Elderscrolls games you might prefer F3, but in all other cases I would say New Vegas is a MUCH better game.
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