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« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2007, 10:58:02 PM »

Quote from: denoginizer on March 07, 2007, 08:24:54 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 07, 2007, 08:14:55 PM

As long as they have shortcuts to each individual part of the  "Home" that can be accessed more easily than going through all the virtual interface when you feel like it, I think this is a fantastic, expansive, interesting, neato idea that gets much love if it remains free. Really excited to see it.

It looks nice.  But as with all things Sony, I'll won't believe it will work as advertized and be free until I see  it in action.  Sony is great at making promises and terrible at fulfilling them.  At least where the PS3 is concerned.

This is a legitimate point and not just for Sony.  They are just the most recent example of it since they've been in the spotlight these past few months.  All of the companies usually promise big and then cut back on the delivery.  Nintendo seems to be the oddball out with their atypically and relatively smooth launch.  But I do hope this is a solid offering from Sony and they knock this one out of the park.

And Calvin, I agree 100%.  As long as they offer easy ways to cut through the fluff this will certainly be an interesting social experiment.
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« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2007, 11:04:41 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 07, 2007, 08:26:42 PM

It hits beta in April so we shouldn't have long to wait to hear impressions.

And I have no doubt the core will remain free- the larger question is how much of the "accessories" will be premium and how much will they charge? 

It certainly will be interesting to watch how it turns out.  I can forsee alot of advertisements to sift through on your way to checking out someones' trophies.  It seems like there will be alot of unexpected hurdles that could come up (porn, hacking, etc) when you allow users to submit content into a closed online service like this is supposed to be.  It doesn't necessarily make me want a PS3 any more than before.  But it will be fun to watch what happens when it releases. 
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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2007, 11:11:15 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 07, 2007, 07:30:01 PM

I love the music!  Probably my favorite part of the vid. 

Well, for me, it was this odd mixture of cute and charming mixed with abrasive that was beginning to grate on me slightly by the end of the trailer. Although my comment was mostly in jest. The game looks quite amazing, and fun. I like the "slow" gravity in there as it makes it look more manageable. In fact, it almost looked like it may be too easy. Was this an all ages title?
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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2007, 01:00:00 AM »

Quote from: Jancelot on March 07, 2007, 10:58:02 PM

Quote from: denoginizer on March 07, 2007, 08:24:54 PM

Quote from: Calvin on March 07, 2007, 08:14:55 PM

As long as they have shortcuts to each individual part of the  "Home" that can be accessed more easily than going through all the virtual interface when you feel like it, I think this is a fantastic, expansive, interesting, neato idea that gets much love if it remains free. Really excited to see it.

It looks nice.  But as with all things Sony, I'll won't believe it will work as advertized and be free until I see  it in action.  Sony is great at making promises and terrible at fulfilling them.  At least where the PS3 is concerned.
And Calvin, I agree 100%.  As long as they offer easy ways to cut through the fluff this will certainly be an interesting social experiment.

Yeah, I mean, frankly I could give a crap about most of this social networking stuff. I want trophies, achievements, and other cool downloads. Yay. Give me an easy way to look at them without this fluff-more yay. However, people love this stuff-make a virtual Sims/animal crossing/whatever embedded into a console's UI/startup scree? Thats a pretty freaking cool idea and one that will be a fascinating social experiment.
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« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2007, 01:02:47 AM »

Oh I don't see the simply PSP/PS3 interface going away, this is just for those that like that kind of thing.
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« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2007, 03:31:18 AM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 07, 2007, 07:30:01 PM

Quote from: JCC on March 07, 2007, 07:25:18 PM

Amazing graphics. I think the game music might eventually drive me into a killing spree though.
I love the music!  Probably my favorite part of the vid. 

It's actually "Get it Together" by The Go! Team, who are quite a cool little band.  I wonder if it will actually be in the game.

And the part that will drive me to a killing spree is waiting for some other halfwit player to jump up the soccer ball, or grab onto the damn star so we can get moving.  Those parts of the video were physically painful to me smile  Somehow though I still really want to play it.
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« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2007, 03:38:52 AM »

Quote from: kathode on March 08, 2007, 03:31:18 AM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 07, 2007, 07:30:01 PM

Quote from: JCC on March 07, 2007, 07:25:18 PM

Amazing graphics. I think the game music might eventually drive me into a killing spree though.
I love the music!  Probably my favorite part of the vid. 

It's actually "Get it Together" by The Go! Team, who are quite a cool little band.  I wonder if it will actually be in the game.

Awesome!  Thanks!  Gonna have to try and track down some of their stuff. 
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« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2007, 04:37:32 AM »

Quote from: gellar on March 07, 2007, 07:19:57 PM

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A true killer app. Something like what Mario 64 did for the N64, or Wii Sports on the Wii.

Um... you mean Zelda for the Wii, right?  Wii Sports was a pack in that a lot of gamers didn't even know existed.

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I agree with Farscry.  Wii Sports may be a pack-in but it's really what gets the most buzz.  My mom actually wants a Wii because of it!

All I know is that Conan played Serena Williams in Wii Tennis on his show.  For the "casual" gamer, I think Wii Sports would be considered a killer app. 

Man, I must be in the minority then.  I seriously didn't even know this game existed until after launch.

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Yup. You're in the minority. icon_biggrin All the promo stuff I saw/read leading up to the Wii launch was focused mostly on Wii Sports, not Zelda. And it's Wii Sports that's sold the system to the mainstream masses who are still buying them up faster than the shelves can be stocked.

Nintendo's gamble paid off, in the short run at least, by appealing to a new gaming demographic. The "hardcore" gaming audience generally dislikes the Wii, writing it off as a puny little sibling to the 360/PS3.  That's the audience that Nintendo didn't bother trying to capture, because there's already two solid platforms vying for that audience. They went for a different audience, and so far it's working pretty well (much like with the DS). Obviously, this is a first for the gaming market since the introduction of the original NES (basically the same gamble in a different era) and it remains to be seen how successful they'll be in the long run.

Heck, I keep failing to see anything to really draw me into buying a Wii myself; there's nothing in the next few months that's a killer app on the system for me personally, and my late spring purchase is looking more and more like it's going to be delayed into a holiday season purchase, and even that's iffy. It's wild how much my excitement waned from my "day one purchase!" claims after E3 last year into pretty much no excitement for the system currently. Right now, the 360, PC, DS, and PS2 provide more gaming than I could possibly ask for, and the Wii just doesn't offer anything I absolutely must have that I can't get elsewhere yet. I even picked up Twilight Princess on the Cube so I wouldn't need to grab the Wii to play it.
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« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2007, 03:57:24 PM »

Quote from: Farscry on March 08, 2007, 04:37:32 AM

Quote from: gellar on March 07, 2007, 07:19:57 PM

Quote from: SuperHiro on March 07, 2007, 06:53:26 PM

Quote from: Kevin Grey on March 07, 2007, 06:50:35 PM

Quote from: gellar on March 07, 2007, 06:46:54 PM

Quote from: Farscry on March 07, 2007, 06:15:25 PM

A true killer app. Something like what Mario 64 did for the N64, or Wii Sports on the Wii.

Um... you mean Zelda for the Wii, right?  Wii Sports was a pack in that a lot of gamers didn't even know existed.

gellar

I agree with Farscry.  Wii Sports may be a pack-in but it's really what gets the most buzz.  My mom actually wants a Wii because of it!

All I know is that Conan played Serena Williams in Wii Tennis on his show.  For the "casual" gamer, I think Wii Sports would be considered a killer app. 

Man, I must be in the minority then.  I seriously didn't even know this game existed until after launch.

gellar

Yup. You're in the minority. icon_biggrin All the promo stuff I saw/read leading up to the Wii launch was focused mostly on Wii Sports, not Zelda. And it's Wii Sports that's sold the system to the mainstream masses who are still buying them up faster than the shelves can be stocked.

Nintendo's gamble paid off, in the short run at least, by appealing to a new gaming demographic. The "hardcore" gaming audience generally dislikes the Wii, writing it off as a puny little sibling to the 360/PS3.  That's the audience that Nintendo didn't bother trying to capture, because there's already two solid platforms vying for that audience. They went for a different audience, and so far it's working pretty well (much like with the DS). Obviously, this is a first for the gaming market since the introduction of the original NES (basically the same gamble in a different era) and it remains to be seen how successful they'll be in the long run.

Heck, I keep failing to see anything to really draw me into buying a Wii myself; there's nothing in the next few months that's a killer app on the system for me personally, and my late spring purchase is looking more and more like it's going to be delayed into a holiday season purchase, and even that's iffy. It's wild how much my excitement waned from my "day one purchase!" claims after E3 last year into pretty much no excitement for the system currently. Right now, the 360, PC, DS, and PS2 provide more gaming than I could possibly ask for, and the Wii just doesn't offer anything I absolutely must have that I can't get elsewhere yet. I even picked up Twilight Princess on the Cube so I wouldn't need to grab the Wii to play it.

One big issue I see for the Wii is that third party games are still going for hardcore gamers.  The casual fan is not going to enjoy SSX Blur much, for example.  Too frustrating.
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2007, 11:49:56 PM »

To resurrect this thread a bit, if you want to check out Peter Molyneux demonstrating some gameplay elements from Fable 2 (especially the dog "sidekick"), check out this video over at IGN.  Even though it just shows a little test level Peter is long winded so the video is pretty lengthy (25 minutes of demonstration + 5 of Q&A), but it does give me some hope for this one to be innovative and worthwhile when it finally comes out.  I wouldn't be expecting this one to ship anytime soon (like this year anytime). 
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