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« on: October 08, 2007, 11:30:02 PM »

My friend just told me that this game is out (I thought it was going to be another week at least).  No impressions yet on this one? Nobody playing it? This is one game that I absolutely have to pick up (after I finish Jeanne Darc).
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 11:42:40 PM »

Doesn't come out here until Wednesday.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 12:15:34 AM »

Ships tomorrow according to EB.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 12:26:19 AM »

Is this an exact remake of Tactics on the PS1 or a new story altogether?
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2007, 12:41:00 AM »

Quote from: denoginizer on October 09, 2007, 12:26:19 AM

Is this an exact remake of Tactics on the PS1 or a new story altogether?

Remake, with a few added extras.  The main addition is the animated cutscenes, which look amazing.  They also added 2 new classes and a couple of unlockable characters.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2007, 12:46:36 AM »

Quote from: Gratch on October 09, 2007, 12:41:00 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 09, 2007, 12:26:19 AM

Is this an exact remake of Tactics on the PS1 or a new story altogether?

Remake, with a few added extras.  The main addition is the animated cutscenes, which look amazing.  They also added 2 new classes and a couple of unlockable characters.

I got the impression the story is much more fleshed out through the cut scenes from the previews I read. They have a Jeanne d'Arc look to them, looking forward to it myself.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 12:55:27 AM »

Quote from: Gratch on October 09, 2007, 12:41:00 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 09, 2007, 12:26:19 AM

Is this an exact remake of Tactics on the PS1 or a new story altogether?

Remake, with a few added extras.  The main addition is the animated cutscenes, which look amazing.

Damn straight they look amazing!

Check out this video!

This is a still from the cutscene:


Even with Zelda keeping me happy and busy on my DS, I just can't wait to get my hands on a PSP again for FFT.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2007, 12:59:09 AM »

Quote from: wonderpug on October 09, 2007, 12:55:27 AM

Quote from: Gratch on October 09, 2007, 12:41:00 AM

Quote from: denoginizer on October 09, 2007, 12:26:19 AM

Is this an exact remake of Tactics on the PS1 or a new story altogether?

Remake, with a few added extras.  The main addition is the animated cutscenes, which look amazing.

Damn straight they look amazing!

Check out this video!


That just makes me all kinds of giddy.  Sprinkling cutscenes like that throughout the game to help tell the story will be fantastic!

I've even got Wednesday off work, and will spend all day with this one.  smile
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2007, 01:06:34 AM »

Wow, looks great. My only compliant would be that I wish they would make the in game graphics as adult as the cut scenes.

Going to go looking for it tomorrow in case the 9th is the actual in store release date. (Yeah I know I am reaching.)
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2007, 01:07:40 AM »

New cutscenes are great I guess.  But if all of the map boards are the same I am going to pass.  I played through FF T on the PS1 twice.  Not really interested in doing it again.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2007, 01:12:26 AM »

Preordered...debating whether or not I'm going to pick it up, since I can't get into Jeanne d'Arc AT ALL.  Maybe SRPGs aren't my thing anymore :*(
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 01:15:42 AM »

Quote from: denoginizer on October 09, 2007, 01:07:40 AM

New cutscenes are great I guess.  But if all of the map boards are the same I am going to pass.  I played through FF T on the PS1 twice.  Not really interested in doing it again.

Yeah, maps will all be the same.  Would have been nice to add a few, but I don't think they wanted to change the core gameplay too much.

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...since I can't get into Jeanne d'Arc AT ALL

Unpossible.  slywink

Actually, I know there were a few people that didn't like it due to the lack of any sort of job or class system.  FF Tactics will certainly not have that problem.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2007, 01:17:50 AM »

I never played the PS one, but loved the GB SP version. Those are different games, right?
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2007, 01:25:58 AM »

Don't forget about the new translation!  I'm probably more excited about that than the new cutscenes. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2007, 01:45:13 AM »

Quote from: Lee on October 09, 2007, 01:17:50 AM

I never played the PS one, but loved the GB SP version. Those are different games, right?

Yes.  Very different.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2007, 02:52:22 PM »

Quote from: Lee on October 09, 2007, 01:17:50 AM

I never played the PS one, but loved the GB SP version. Those are different games, right?

marry the storytelling of ffxii to the gameplay of ffta, & you get an approximation of fft - all 3 games occur in ivalice, & all were directed by yasumi matsuno...
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2007, 03:41:55 PM »

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Quote from: Lee on October 09, 2007, 01:17:50 AM

I never played the PS one, but loved the GB SP version. Those are different games, right?

marry the storytelling of ffxii to the gameplay of ffta, & you get an approximation of fft - all 3 games occur in ivalice, & all were directed by yasumi matsuno...

This is a good description.  FF Tactics is FF Tactics Advance with a story for adults.  FF Tactics is also significantly harder than it's GBA counterpart.  One of the biggest changes is that moves are permanent once they're made.  It's not like FFTA where you can make a move, see if you're in range, then cancel it and move again if it didn't work quite right.  Once you move, you're done.

FF Tactics requires much more precision and actual tactical skill to be effective.   I actually prefer the FFTA system, but ymmv...
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2007, 04:35:38 PM »

I'm really looking forward to this.  I'm also curious what firmware it requires.  I'm on 3.52 and don't want to upgrade.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2007, 05:13:00 PM »

I've heard 3.70 for firmware but would like to see it confirmed.  I'm perfectly content at 3.40 OE right now.  At some point I'm going to get a PSP Slim so my plan for now is to leave my current PSP at 3.40 and use it as an emulation portable and keep the slim up-to-date and unhacked. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2007, 05:21:45 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 09, 2007, 05:13:00 PM

I've heard 3.70 for firmware but would like to see it confirmed.  I'm perfectly content at 3.40 OE right now.

I'm sitting on 3.40 OE as well, as I simply didn't want to upgrade (and then have to redownload all my emulators and such as the code for playing games under the 3.7 OE is completely different). I'll check once I get back home and see if I can find what version it is.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2007, 08:03:20 PM »

It made me upgrade to 3.51 before I could play.  A couple very early impressions (as in, first 2 battles):

-  Maybe it's my bad eyes, but the text is very small and somewhat tough to read. 
-  The art style used in the cut-scenes is stunningly beautiful.  Can't wait to see all of these cutscenes.
-  Even in the first 1/2 hour, they've changed a lot in the dialog.  It already makes the story much, much easier to understand.  This new translation is fantastic.

Will probably be playing this all day, so I'll have some more impressions later tonight.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2007, 08:24:28 PM »

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It made me upgrade to 3.51 before I could play.

Sweet.  That's what I needed to know.  Thanks Gratch!
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2007, 08:29:08 PM »

Damn I am so tempted to pick up this game.  I loved FF Tactics but I just don't want to play through a few of those map boards again.  mad

I wish it was a new story based on that engine.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2007, 09:13:34 PM »

I'd love to play through this again, but I'm not buying a PSP just for it, so I will sadly have to pass.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2007, 09:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on October 10, 2007, 08:03:20 PM

Will probably be playing this all day, so I'll have some more impressions later tonight.

Where did you get it at? Doesn't seem to be out yet in this part of the country.
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2007, 09:27:39 PM »

How hard is this game?  On a difficulty scale of 1 (easy) to ten (hard)?  I'm finding Jeanne D'Arc to be about a 4 or 5 on this scale. Will FFT be significantly harder?
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2007, 09:33:08 PM »

Quote from: Lee on October 10, 2007, 09:26:36 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 10, 2007, 08:03:20 PM

Will probably be playing this all day, so I'll have some more impressions later tonight.

Where did you get it at? Doesn't seem to be out yet in this part of the country.

Got mine at Gamestop today.

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How hard is this game?  On a difficulty scale of 1 (easy) to ten (hard)?  I'm finding Jeanne D'Arc to be about a 4 or 5 on this scale. Will FFT be significantly harder?

I'd probably put FFT around an 8.  Some battles can be ridiculously hard, others are a bit easier.  It's much more difficult than Jeanne D'Arc, which was never really much of a challenge
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2007, 09:37:40 PM »

Picked this up and played for about 30 minutes so far.  Cut-scenes: awesome.  New translation: very nice.  Me forgetting how to assign more than just the main character:  Priceless.

Got it at Gamestop here in southwest Mo.
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2007, 10:05:15 PM »

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It's much more difficult than Jeanne D'Arc, which was never really much of a challenge

Weren't you completely flummoxed by the last stage of Jeanne D'Arc?
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2007, 10:17:57 PM »

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-  Maybe it's my bad eyes, but the text is very small and somewhat tough to read. 
 
It's not just your eyes. I'm having a hard time reading the text, too.
    
That's my only quibble with the game so far, though. Everything else is aces.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2007, 11:01:29 PM »

Quote from: Lee on October 10, 2007, 09:26:36 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 10, 2007, 08:03:20 PM

Will probably be playing this all day, so I'll have some more impressions later tonight.

Where did you get it at? Doesn't seem to be out yet in this part of the country.

Best Buy here in VA had it. 
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2007, 11:11:48 PM »

Target and Walmart didn't have it so I went against my long standing boycott and went to EB. 2 employess, one asked everyone inline if they pre-ordered (even games that have been out over a week), this is the employee I always seem to get when I go in. Not this time though, got the other employee who didn't hassle me at all about pre-ordering, he just wanted to talk about the game. I would go there more often if the experience was always like that.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2007, 11:20:07 PM »

wow...

great to see (& hear - love the soundtrack) this game in all it's souped-up glory. thought i might have a hard time getting back into it (played the original maybe 3 years ago), but got sucked in immediately, & it'll likely be my next game once i finish phantom hourglass (bumping folklore & a half-dozen other titles). i hardly ever replay games, but this one's just too good to pass up (tho i still think ffta was even more fun)...

i'm happy smile ...
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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2007, 12:19:46 AM »

Quote from: warning on October 10, 2007, 10:05:15 PM

Quote from: Gratch on October 10, 2007, 09:33:08 PM

It's much more difficult than Jeanne D'Arc, which was never really much of a challenge

Weren't you completely flummoxed by the last stage of Jeanne D'Arc?

Yes, but once I applied a bit of common sense (i.e. attack the big baddie directly and don't bother with his henchmen) I beat it in 3 turns.  My characters were so overlevelled that I cruised through the entire final third of the game without ever feeling challenged.   Since enemies don't scale to your level, it's pretty easy to outpace the game.

On a side note, after spending 40'ish hours with Jeanne, it's really tough to get used to a turn order and permanent moves again.
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2007, 08:10:22 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on October 11, 2007, 12:19:46 AM

On a side note, after spending 40'ish hours with Jeanne, it's really tough to get used to a turn order and permanent moves again.

same here...I picked up FFT WotL yesterday, and it's just so different from Jeanne D'Arc

now I played the original FFT and loved it back then, but it feels kind of 'old' now...the map graphics certainly don't look improved to me, but keep in mind I literally have not played FFT since the year it came out, so I don't really remember.  another thing I'm disappointed in is the slowdown in particle effect graphics...I don't see how in the world the PSP can't render that fast nowdays.  to me the slowdown is certainly noticeable

having said that, the new cutscenes are great, and the music is just as fantastic now as it was back then.  and the gameplay design itself was always a winner
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2007, 03:17:29 PM »

after messing around a few hours yesterday (along with digging out the aged guide i'd gotten on ebay years back), everything's finally clicked for me again. as well-built an srpg as you'll find: challenging & complex (with one of the steeper learning curves around), but once the story begins to unfold (the new localization's very well done), & you've come to grips with the job system, fft's still as addictive a game as any i've played since. kinda unfortunate timing, what with all these ps3 titles i've been waiting for coming out, but when a nicely revised oldie this good re-appears, & you start remembering just how much fun you had with it, well,... it's kinda impossible to resist smile ...
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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2007, 05:43:23 PM »

I've had very little time with FFT this week (only about an hour).  However, I do have a nice 4 hours flight to New Orleans this afternoon, so I should have some pretty good impressions by the time that's done.  smile
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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2007, 05:48:24 PM »

This game is hard. I was getting my ass handed to me so I started over. This time I have made wiser job decisions, but some of the random battles are a struggle.

Are story battles always at a set enemy level (no matter the level of my guys the enemy will always be level 5 in battle X)? Are the enemys in random battles always the same level as your higher character (My highest level character is level 5 so random battles will always have level 5 enemies)? I am having issues keeping everyone in my group caught up level wise and there are never enough of JPs.
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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2007, 05:53:53 PM »

IIRC, random battles are set to the highest character in your party, not the highest character participating in the battle.  So if Ramza is 3 levels higher that everyone else but isn't taking part in the fight, enemies will still be at his level.  Story battles have set character levels, but I'm pretty sure they raise if your party is extremely overpowered.

And yeah, the game is hard as hell.   One thing that helps in the early game is to make sure every character learns the Squire's "JP up" ability.  This gives them extra JP for every action, and can be a huge help.  I'm currently trying to get that ability in random battles before moving on to the story stuff.
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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2007, 07:48:02 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on October 14, 2007, 05:53:53 PM

And yeah, the game is hard as hell.   One thing that helps in the early game is to make sure every character learns the Squire's "JP up" ability.  This gives them extra JP for every action, and can be a huge help.  I'm currently trying to get that ability in random battles before moving on to the story stuff.

good advice - milking the random battles early & often is a must...
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