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« on: November 15, 2006, 02:31:22 PM »

"Unless you're a completist, you'll be done with this one almost immediately." Control issues too...Oy vey! 

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2006, 02:57:29 PM »

OUT!  Been thinking about cancelling that preorder for weeks.  I'm going to go in today and switch it over to Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz, which is getting stellar reviews.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2006, 03:24:13 PM »

I was most interested in what they had to say about the controls, what with some people saying it's the second coming of Christ and some people saying it's a gimmick.  Doesn't look like we'll get an answer on that from this game.  They seemed very neutral about it.  As in, it has potential but could have been better implemented.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2006, 03:51:17 PM »

Grumble, grumble, grumble. I really wanted to like that game. 'Tis a shame.

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2006, 04:23:36 PM »

Jeff Gerstmann. If you watched the Gamespot video deal with them all playing the Wii a few days ago, this score won't come as a shock. He looked completely bored playing the system, not even attempting to move off the couch to play Golf in Wii Sports.

With that being said, the game is pretty mediocre. It's fun for awhile, but the lack of content is really disappointing.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2006, 04:50:05 PM »

Yeah the lack of content sucks, I am not a gerstman fan, and I am sure other reviews will be more favorable, but this is a problem with this development studio, same ones who did 1080 Avalanche, there's not enough content to justify $50 bucks. Hopefully they'll get their heads out of their asses and realize that people need more in there games. I won't support another Nintendo console that half-asses half the games in the content department. It was like that with the Cube, where half the games were deep and had a lot of meat to hold you and the other half had great gameplay that barely lasted 5 hours of content.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2006, 05:55:24 PM »

I like JG.  He's really knowledgabe about the industry in general and games in specific. He's also quite HI larious on the Hotspot.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2006, 06:08:03 PM »

I usually like him, but he does seem to be slightly biased against the Wii (just reading his reactions talking about the remote and watching him play on the epic play video).  None the less, this game has dropped from must buy, to wait a little more.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2006, 06:09:47 PM »

I played it at EB - Seems like a reasonable score.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2006, 06:18:46 PM »

I've read a *lot* of Jeff Gerstmann over the last ten years.  He's reminiscent of Puck from A Midsummer Night's Dream: he might come across like an entertaining prankster or even a doofus to the casual observer, but I wouldn't stake anything of value against him in a contest of wits.  That guy is smart, a lot smarter than he likes to let on, and for whatever reason he's chosen to dedicate a large portion of his life to critiquing video games.  It's easy to argue with his decision to give Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 a perfect score, but on the whole, I've learned to give his opinions a lot of weight.

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2006, 06:26:37 PM »

I have this one reserved, but may hold up for another review or two.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2006, 07:10:42 PM »

Quote from: ATB on November 15, 2006, 05:55:24 PM

I like JG.  He's really knowledgabe about the industry in general and games in specific. He's also quite HI larious on the Hotspot.

Strange- I find that he comes off as rather ignorant on the Hotpsot though I don't really have any strong feelings on his reviews one way or the other. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2006, 08:31:20 PM »

I am bummed about the low score and the seemingly shallow nature of the game. Having said that, I just watched the Video Review on Gamespot and while I certainly heard everything Jeff said, the gameplay footage looks so awesomely fun. I am torn.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2006, 09:45:24 PM »

Quote from: Devil on November 15, 2006, 06:09:47 PM

I played it at EB - Seems like a reasonable score.

I just played it, myself. at Gamestop.  I was a little underwhelmed, myself.  More to the point, I think my wife would hate it.  I may get it at $30, but not $50.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 09:53:30 PM »

Quote from: JCC on November 15, 2006, 08:31:20 PM

I am bummed about the low score and the seemingly shallow nature of the game. Having said that, I just watched the Video Review on Gamespot and while I certainly heard everything Jeff said, the gameplay footage looks so awesomely fun. I am torn.


Pretty much my thoughts as well.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2006, 12:26:57 AM »

I gave it a whirl at my Gamestop and found it to be entertaining. I don't know if the simplistic (yet fun) gameplay is worth $50 though.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2006, 01:48:28 AM »

I predict this will be the norm for Wii.  A couple of blockbusters, then a shitton of poor low grade titles.

I mentioned last year that I feared all of the developers will be treating the controller gimmick as the next "Lens Flare" or "Bloom", and going hog wild with it, while not paying much attention to game content and gameplay.  Thus was my fear.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2006, 01:51:37 AM »

Quote from: siege on November 15, 2006, 04:23:36 PM

Jeff Gerstmann. If you watched the Gamespot video deal with them all playing the Wii a few days ago, this score won't come as a shock. He looked completely bored playing the system, not even attempting to move off the couch to play Golf in Wii Sports.

With that being said, the game is pretty mediocre. It's fun for awhile, but the lack of content is really disappointing.
Definately the reviewers fault!
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2006, 02:47:57 AM »

Quote from: Kobra on November 16, 2006, 01:48:28 AM

I predict this will be the norm for Wii.  A couple of blockbusters, then a shitton of poor low grade titles.

I mentioned last year that I feared all of the developers will be treating the controller gimmick as the next "Lens Flare" or "Bloom", and going hog wild with it, while not paying much attention to game content and gameplay.  Thus was my fear.

Well, in my opinion, the videos made the game look fun without even taking the controls into account. Just looked like a ridiculously exagerated off-road racer that'd be great to play with a group. I never cared which system it was on, or what kind of controller it would be using.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2006, 03:22:26 AM »

Quote from: Kobra on November 16, 2006, 01:48:28 AM

I predict this will be the norm for Wii.  A couple of blockbusters, then a shitton of poor low grade titles.

I mentioned last year that I feared all of the developers will be treating the controller gimmick as the next "Lens Flare" or "Bloom", and going hog wild with it, while not paying much attention to game content and gameplay.  Thus was my fear.

Ah, yes, because 1 launch title is a perfect representation of the entire run of the system, present and future...
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2006, 03:42:27 AM »

I never really expected Excite Truck to be a winner. It's very much along the lines of early Xbox and PS2 racers, such as Quantum Redshift and Xtreme G Racing. Competent, may even look good or be unique in some way, but totally outclassed by 2nd generation games.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2006, 04:05:17 AM »

So far I'd guess the average review score of Wii games is higher than the average score of PS3 games.  But judging from the reviews I have seen I would say it is true.

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Using Gamerankings scores for the reviewed games so far on the Wii and the PS3 here are the average scores:
Wii
82.43
PS3
78.83

Of course this doesnt really mean much, but I find it interesting.
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2006, 04:14:26 AM »

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746278p1.html

IGN 8.0's Excite Truck:

Closing Comments
I'm more of a Burnout and San Francisco Rush fan than a Gran Turismo and Forza gamer, and Excite Truck for Wii is definitely right up my alley. Excite Truck is clearly a first generation console game that will, without a doubt be outdone in the Wii system's later years. But as a game that bursts right out of the gate as a launch title for the system, Excite Truck is a fulfilling, fun, energetic arcade-style racer that features a good balance of technology and technique. There are a few spots in places that could have been filled, like its weak two player option and trick system, but overall this game definitely pulls off the intense racing rush that quality arcade racers offer.

7.0    Presentation
Solid amount of features that show off Wii capabilities, but don't expect to be overwhelmed by a huge feature list of options.

8.0    Graphics
Really fast visual engine with lots of texture detail and effects. Frame rate takes the occasional hit, but nothing alarming.

6.5    Sound
Extremely generic, southern garage rock that can be replaced with your own playlist through the miracle of SDs and MP3s.

8.5    Gameplay
Absolutely fast-paced, maniacal, yet intuitive and responsive racing game that features a great amount of energy and fun.

5.5    Lasting Appeal
If all you want is to see the dozen or so tracks then you can do that in a couple of hours...it's getting the Super Excite mode that extends the play. Multiplayer isn't a selling point.

8.0
Impressive    OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2006, 04:14:57 AM »

Quote from: th'FOOL on November 16, 2006, 03:22:26 AM

Quote from: Kobra on November 16, 2006, 01:48:28 AM

I predict this will be the norm for Wii.  A couple of blockbusters, then a shitton of poor low grade titles.

I mentioned last year that I feared all of the developers will be treating the controller gimmick as the next "Lens Flare" or "Bloom", and going hog wild with it, while not paying much attention to game content and gameplay.  Thus was my fear.

Ah, yes, because 1 launch title is a perfect representation of the entire run of the system, present and future...

And wasn't there a similar prediction when the DS came out?
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2006, 04:24:50 AM »

wait, have any of Kobra's predictions ever rang true? Everything he's told us about the Wii launch and what not have been so blatantly out there and wrong that I think it's safe to say that his predictions mean nothing.
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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2006, 04:26:08 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2006, 06:12:41 AM »

Quote from: Autistic Angel on November 15, 2006, 06:18:46 PM

I've read a *lot* of Jeff Gerstmann over the last ten years.  He's reminiscent of Puck from A Midsummer Night's Dream: he might come across like an entertaining prankster or even a doofus to the casual observer, but I wouldn't stake anything of value against him in a contest of wits.  That guy is smart, a lot smarter than he likes to let on, and for whatever reason he's chosen to dedicate a large portion of his life to critiquing video games.  It's easy to argue with his decision to give Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 a perfect score, but on the whole, I've learned to give his opinions a lot of weight.

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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2006, 01:04:39 PM »

That IGN review is suspect. I have a feeling that this game would get a 6.0 if not for the fun of the Wii's controller, to which I say, congrats to Nintendo!

Making average games great with a funky controller!

I think control is important, but is it that much of a determinig factor?
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2006, 01:11:21 PM »

Quote from: Devil on November 16, 2006, 01:04:39 PM

That IGN review is suspect. I have a feeling that this game would get a 6.0 if not for the fun of the Wii's controller, to which I say, congrats to Nintendo!

Making average games great with a funky controller!

I think control is important, but is it that much of a determinig factor?

If it changes the way a game feels or plays, then yes it is. If it feels tacked on and not special in anyway, then it is less important, and shoudl probably detract from the review. I think the review read more like a 7 or 7.5, and I think they bumped it up because the reviewer is keen on games like Excite Truck, over the top arcade racers.
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2006, 01:33:52 PM »

'bunk - I'm not sure. It really did seem like a very average game to me. Fun? Yes, but done to death over and over again. Nothing new besides the controller.

I see this another, typical, red flag for another Nintendo system. Are we going to get old games over and over again that people will somehow eat up because a) They are classic Nintendo franchises, and b) They add new controls?

I always bitch about this when it comes to Nintendo, same old stale games.  :icon_sad:

At least the controls are different this time around.  icon_biggrin

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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2006, 01:41:22 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2006, 01:44:56 PM »

Quote from: Devil on November 16, 2006, 01:04:39 PM

I think control is important, but is it that much of a determinig factor?

I don't know- how's Guitar Hero with just the Dual Shock? 
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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2006, 01:46:24 PM »

KEVIN, DAMN, DAMN fine point.

That would have been a mediocre game with the dual shock for sure.
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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2006, 01:46:49 PM »

Quote from: Devil on November 16, 2006, 01:33:52 PM

Fun? Yes

When did it become the case that being fun was no longer the point? Who the hell cares whether it's been done before as long as it remains fun?
Having said that, if it were exactly the same experience, it probably wouldn't be fun.
All I know is that every time I watch a vid for this, it looks like a blast.
I do have some concerns about it.
The number of tracks seems limited.
I really dislike the fact there are no AI cars when doing split screen.
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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2006, 01:54:03 PM »

It was fun for the 5 minutes I played it, and the only thing that was actually fun about it was the controls. I didn't see it as something you would want to go back to.

Guitar Hero? Doesn't compare. If EVERY PS2 game used the same guitar controller (that would be fun) the uniqueness of the control scheme would be lost and the games would actually have to produce on a different level. EVERY Wii game will use this controller.

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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2006, 01:59:04 PM »

Quote from: Devil on November 16, 2006, 01:54:03 PM


Guitar Hero? Doesn't compare. If EVERY PS2 game used the same guitar controller (that would be fun) the uniqueness of the control scheme would be lost and the games would actually have to produce on a different level. EVERY Wii game will use this controller.


But they all use it different ways.  We might some sort of standardization in Wii FPS controls, but the controls in Rayman Raving Rabbids are completely different than those in Wii Sports which are different than Zelda..... 
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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2006, 02:00:17 PM »

Quote from: Devil on November 16, 2006, 01:54:03 PM

It was fun for the 5 minutes I played it, and the only thing that was actually fun about it was the controls. I didn't see it as something you would want to go back to.

Ok, so the novelty wears off quickly. That I can grok. Thanks for the clarification.
I'm a little leery of this one now too. Hopefully I can try it soon.
Thing is, I've had this one pegged as one my son would love, so if not this, I'll have to pick another.
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2006, 02:14:51 PM »

Too bad they didn't bundle Excite Truck with the Wii along with Sports.  Sounds like it'd work as a good "ooh neat" tech demo to get people used to the controller like Sports is doing.
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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2006, 02:18:40 PM »

KG - I'm just going under the assumption that all racing games will use the controller in a similar way

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Misguided - It's not the control scheme novelty that wore off.

What I'm really saying, and aparently not too clearly, is that the game itself is not very good and the only thing that made it remotely fun was the remote itself (hee!).

I'm assuming there will be other racing games that will use the same controls and be a lot better games on their own.

I was questioning the 8.0 score just on what will be a common control scheme for a mediocre game.
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2006, 02:47:11 PM »

Quote from: Devil on November 16, 2006, 02:18:40 PM

I'm assuming there will be other racing games that will use the same controls and be a lot better games on their own.

Probably...but GT Pro looks awful, buying NFS on Wii makes no sense at all, and Monster 4x4 is a port of an xbox game that got awful review scores.
I'd really like to get a racing game, but maybe not.
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